Since Scott Walker's election, local Wisc. Dem prosecutors and judges running amok

Most normal Americans have known for a long time that it's not wise to elect liberal Democrats to public office where they have power to use government to crack down on them.

It turns out that this was more than a worrisome idea. Ever since Scott Walker started running for Governor in Wisconsin, his Democrat opponents in office have been conducting intrusive surveillance of people who supported him, subpoenaing their business and personal records, and conducting midnight raids where armed police raided their homes, searched and seized their belongings, and threatened them with more if they mentioned any of it to anyone.

Apparently this has been going on for years in Wisconsin, getting worse with each Walker election victory, and is only lately coming to light.

It is the stuff for which third-world countries and banana republics are (justly) ridiculed and scorned. And it couldn't happen here. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights were written specifically to prevent such behavior by government. But it actually has been happening here - in long campaigns against anyone who dared oppose the Wisconsin Democrats, their union handlers, and the police they control.

It's an ominous warning - but now more than just a warning - about what can happen when you give liberals political power, and then try to take it away from them.

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Politicized Prosecution Run Amok in Wisconsin National Review Online

Politicized Prosecution Run Amok in Wisconsin

by Rich Lowry
April 21, 2015 12:00 AM

The knock on the door in the dead of night is the stuff of Darkness at Noon, and of the state of Wisconsin. To the question of whether armed police can storm your house and take away your personal effects and tell you to shut up about it, based simply on your political advocacy, Wisconsin answered for years, “Why, yes, they can — now please, shut up about it.”

The so-called John Doe investigations into Governor Scott Walker and conservative groups in Wisconsin have been an ongoing travesty that — now that Walker is entering the presidential stage — should be considered a national disgrace. Walker’s opponents weaponized campaign-finance law, literally.

Our own David French has talked to families targeted in the John Doe raids for the first time, and their stories are harrowing. Shouting officers at the front door in pre-dawn raids, at least once with a battering ram. Armed police rifling through and carting off their belongings, down to and including a daughter’s computer. And warnings to stay silent. The targets were told not to tell their lawyers, or their friends, or their neighbors.

When armed cops storm the house next door, people often wonder why, but the targets were forbidden from discussing what happened. As French points out, this wasn’t the right to remain silent and avoid self-incrimination, but an order to remain silent and not to make any professions of innocence. They had a keener sense of due process in Salem, Massachusetts.

The investigators were, among other things, fishing for campaign-finance violations, on dubious grounds. So, for exercising their First Amendment rights, some targets were denied their First Amendment rights. This is the Bill of Rights, via Kafka and Inspector Javert.

The investigations have been such a long-running farce that there is John Doe I and II. As Scott Walker’s first campaign for governor got underway in 2010, the Milwaukee district attorney, John Chisholm, opened the initial John Doe investigation under a proviso of the law that allows officials to keep their targets secret and to compel them to hush up.

A partisan Democrat whose wife was a shop steward for a teachers union, Chisholm investigated everything possible related to Walker for a couple of years, without really laying a glove on him. It was in the run-up to Walker’s re-election campaign that, with the help of a compliant judge, John Doe entered its next phase of harassment of conservative groups. Investigators swept up personal e-mails, and issued wide-ranging subpoenas, including information on donors.

The Wisconsin Club for Growth describes in court filings how its activities were hindered, as people began refusing meetings, donors got nervous, and one of its key officials, Eric O’Keefe, wasn’t allowed to explain the nature of the investigation. O’Keefe, who has been courageous in resisting the investigations, has said, “The process is the punishment.”

And the offense was backing the wrong side in a highly contentious political dispute. It’s one thing for kids with bongo drums to register their opposition to Scott Walker; it’s another for armed agents of the state, operating with the force of law, to be used as essentially a political cudgel.

The John Doe investigation has bogged down under the weight of its own ludicrous unfairness, and various court challenges. The Wisconsin Supreme Court could soon rule to halt the investigations altogether, and the United States Supreme Court is set to decide whether it will consider a federal lawsuit brought by Eric O’Keefe and the Wisconsin Club for Growth.

Wisconsin legislators are considering scaling back the law enabling John Doe investigations to prevent future abuses. The John Doe process might make sense for unraveling a dangerous criminal syndicate; it isn’t appropriate in a tenuous campaign-finance investigation, let alone as a tool of intimidation against people on the wrong side of a political argument.

The politicized knock on the door in the night isn’t right for Wisconsin, or anywhere else in the United States of America.
 
I am still unsure of all this mostly because I don’t see how any of this can be remotely constitutional.
The police cannot prevent you from contacting your lawyer though they could certainly lie to you and tell you not to. So far no one is bothering to refute any of this at all though – a chilling prospect. Just a bunch of blathering about how horrible conservatives are.
Seriously, someone post something that refutes this.
 
I am still unsure of all this mostly because I don’t see how any of this can be remotely constitutional.
The police cannot prevent you from contacting your lawyer though they could certainly lie to you and tell you not to. So far no one is bothering to refute any of this at all though – a chilling prospect. Just a bunch of blathering about how horrible conservatives are.
Seriously, someone post something that refutes this.


It's established fact.

This all happened,

{
Cindy Archer, one of the lead architects of Wisconsin’s Act 10 was jolted awake by yelling, loud pounding at the door, and her dogs’ frantic barking. The entire house — the windows and walls — was shaking.

She looked outside to see up to a dozen police officers, yelling to open the door. They were carrying a battering ram. She wasn’t dressed, but she started to run toward the door, her body in full view of the police. Some yelled at her to grab some clothes, others yelled for her to open the door.

Someone was pounding at her front door. It was early in the morning — very early — and it was the kind of heavy pounding that meant someone was either fleeing from — or bringing — trouble.

“It was so hard. I’d never heard anything like it. I thought someone was dying outside.”

She ran to the door, opened it, and then chaos. “People came pouring in. For a second I thought it was a home invasion. It was terrifying. They were yelling and running, into every room in the house. One of the men was in my face, yelling at me over and over and over.”

It was indeed a home invasion, but the people who were pouring in were Wisconsin law-enforcement officers. Armed, uniformed police swarmed into the house. Plainclothes investigators cornered her and her newly awakened family. Soon, state officials were seizing the family’s personal property, including each person’s computer and smartphone, filled with the most intimate family information.}

Wisconsin Democrat DA Terrorizes Local Republicans The Gateway Pundit

 
Did you really just post approval rating to defend John Doe raids?
WTF is wrong with you?

Weapons grade stupidity is what murderous despotic sociopaths ride to power on, mamdouche is afflicted with an atomic level of it.
 
The modern Republicans are like the old Soviet communists, loyal to their party instead of their country. It's not a political party any more, it's the Republican crime syndicate.

When did you become a Republican?
 
Though horribly open to abuse as Democrats have shown, the law itself is probably not prima facie unconstitutional. I would imagine that it assumes the 4th amendment would be followed.

The 4th calls for "no unreasonable search or seizure". And it requires that a warrant be issued... by a judge. In other words, someone with the knowledge, wisdom, and intent to respect the citizen's rights, can exercise veto power over each search and seizure, and prevent bad ones from taking place, on a case-by-case basis.

Where Wisconsin went wrong, was in electing Democrats to the position of Prosecutor and Judge, who must make those decisions. As we have seen over and over for the last six years, Democrats have no interest in obeying the law or respecting people's rights, especially when the victim is a conservative who disagrees with their agenda (which includes nearly all normal Americans). Democrats in the IRS targeting conservatives, in the NSA spying on huge numbers of law-abiding Americans, and in Congress passing unconstitutional laws such as Obamacare to punish Americans for not signing up for health care plans the liberals thought they should have, are just a few examples.

A proper legal system cannot be run without providing room for officials to judge whether a law is being obeyed or disobeyed. That's why the 4th amendment (and other provisions) are worded the way they are.

And Democrats have shown time and again, why they should not be elected to those offices of public trust. These midnight raids of people who did nothing more than oppose extreme Democrat policies, demonstrate once again that Democrats must not be trusted with the power of government.
 
WankerTed lies that Schmitz is "republican," a lie he repeats from ThinkProgress. In fact Schmitz is a union goon hired by the terrorist democrats to wage this terrorist campaign on political foes.

{The Democrats hired Schmitz, the source said, because they think “his anti-terror experience will intimidate. I don’t think it’s too much to say it is designed to terrify some people.”

However, another source noted that whatever Schmitz’s skills are in spycraft, he has no First Amendment experience and no election-law background.

A source speculates that Schmitz, because of his “nominal ties to Republicans, gives a hyper-partisan investigation the public appearance of fairness.”

Though gagged by provisions of subpoenas issued by Milwaukee County’s Landgraf and others, multiple sources have told Wisconsin Reporter the Democrats’ manifold legal attack on nonprofit conservative organizations has included after-hours visits to homes and offices; confiscated equipment and files; and demands for phone, email and other records.}

Democrats tap anti-terror expert to head secret probe of Wisconsin conservatives - Watchdog.org
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Ahh this is lovely... In the old HArd Right all things bad must be a democrat.

"
The Special Prosecutor appointed to take on the matter is Francis Schmitz, a thirty-year federal prosecutor who had been one of President George W. Bush’s ‘final three’ recommended candidates to become the U.S. Attorney for Milwaukee.

"

But here is the dagger in the horse manure from the right:
John Doe special prosecutor says he voted for Scott Walker in recall

"I voted for Governor Scott Walker in Wisconsin's 2012 gubernatorial recall election," Schmitz said in a sworn declaration filed with the U.S. District Court on Tuesday.

In his declaration, Schmitz acknowledged that he was once a member of the Republican Party. He said he took the step of joining the GOP "in connection with seeking the Presidential appointment as the United States Attorney" for the Milwaukee area after the 2002 election.

In addition, Schmitz said he was working for the U.S. Department of Justice during the furor over Act 10, Walker's signature legislation to restrict collective bargaining for state employees. Schmitz said he assisted local law enforcement investigating potential threats to Walker.

As for what he thinks of Act 10, Schmitz said it didn't affect him personally because he worked in the federal government.

"I generally supported the Governor's efforts to balance the State budget," Schmitz wrote.


Talk about dumbass Right Wingers.... They are eating their own... This must be killing them.

Listen lets make this clear: it is not in the Democrats interest to attack Walker, they want him to win.

The ones with the motives to do this are other GOP candidates...
 
Though horribly open to abuse as Democrats have shown, the law itself is probably not prima facie unconstitutional. I would imagine that it assumes the 4th amendment would be followed.

The 4th calls for "no unreasonable search or seizure". And it requires that a warrant be issued... by a judge. In other words, someone with the knowledge, wisdom, and intent to respect the citizen's rights, can exercise veto power over each search and seizure, and prevent bad ones from taking place, on a case-by-case basis.

Where Wisconsin went wrong, was in electing Democrats to the position of Prosecutor and Judge, who must make those decisions. As we have seen over and over for the last six years, Democrats have no interest in obeying the law or respecting people's rights, especially when the victim is a conservative who disagrees with their agenda (which includes nearly all normal Americans). Democrats in the IRS targeting conservatives, in the NSA spying on huge numbers of law-abiding Americans, and in Congress passing unconstitutional laws such as Obamacare to punish Americans for not signing up for health care plans the liberals thought they should have, are just a few examples.

A proper legal system cannot be run without providing room for officials to judge whether a law is being obeyed or disobeyed. That's why the 4th amendment (and other provisions) are worded the way they are.

And Democrats have shown time and again, why they should not be elected to those offices of public trust. These midnight raids of people who did nothing more than oppose extreme Democrat policies, demonstrate once again that Democrats must not be trusted with the power of government.


If the law actually restrains the subject of investigation from speaking or seeking counsel, it is unconstitutional. This violates prior restraint, the 6th amendment right to counsel, and as far as the Obama administration still allows it, the 1st amendment.
 
Ahh this is lovely... In the old HArd Right all things bad must be a democrat.

"
The Special Prosecutor appointed to take on the matter is Francis Schmitz, a thirty-year federal prosecutor who had been one of President George W. Bush’s ‘final three’ recommended candidates to become the U.S. Attorney for Milwaukee.

"

But here is the dagger in the horse manure from the right:
John Doe special prosecutor says he voted for Scott Walker in recall

"I voted for Governor Scott Walker in Wisconsin's 2012 gubernatorial recall election," Schmitz said in a sworn declaration filed with the U.S. District Court on Tuesday.

In his declaration, Schmitz acknowledged that he was once a member of the Republican Party. He said he took the step of joining the GOP "in connection with seeking the Presidential appointment as the United States Attorney" for the Milwaukee area after the 2002 election.

In addition, Schmitz said he was working for the U.S. Department of Justice during the furor over Act 10, Walker's signature legislation to restrict collective bargaining for state employees. Schmitz said he assisted local law enforcement investigating potential threats to Walker.

As for what he thinks of Act 10, Schmitz said it didn't affect him personally because he worked in the federal government.

"I generally supported the Governor's efforts to balance the State budget," Schmitz wrote.


Talk about dumbass Right Wingers.... They are eating their own... This must be killing them.

Listen lets make this clear: it is not in the Democrats interest to attack Walker, they want him to win.

The ones with the motives to do this are other GOP candidates...

Schmitz is a Union goon. That Bush had him as a finalist means utterly nothing. He is part of the DNC terrorism machine. He was selected by the democratic party to help with the systematic terror campaign against enemies of the party (or the union, in case there is any difference.)

Schmitz is a terrorist - working with the DNC in Wisconsin to achieve political aims through violence and intimidation. He can claim he voted for Micky Mouse, or he can be some Pom claiming he is a "Cowboy," the fucker is part of a terrorist cell.

There WILL be justice for this - one way or the other. Chisholm in prison is how a civilized country does it - if we are not a civilized nation, governed by law, then it is incumbent on the people to take up arms and reclaim the nation from the lawless terrorists, the democrats. I don't know if Schmitz is guilty of the crimes that Chisholm is, but he should be investigated and certainly should never work in law, much less enforcement again.
 
Ahh this is lovely... In the old HArd Right all things bad must be a democrat.

"
The Special Prosecutor appointed to take on the matter is Francis Schmitz, a thirty-year federal prosecutor who had been one of President George W. Bush’s ‘final three’ recommended candidates to become the U.S. Attorney for Milwaukee.

"

But here is the dagger in the horse manure from the right:
John Doe special prosecutor says he voted for Scott Walker in recall

"I voted for Governor Scott Walker in Wisconsin's 2012 gubernatorial recall election," Schmitz said in a sworn declaration filed with the U.S. District Court on Tuesday.

In his declaration, Schmitz acknowledged that he was once a member of the Republican Party. He said he took the step of joining the GOP "in connection with seeking the Presidential appointment as the United States Attorney" for the Milwaukee area after the 2002 election.

In addition, Schmitz said he was working for the U.S. Department of Justice during the furor over Act 10, Walker's signature legislation to restrict collective bargaining for state employees. Schmitz said he assisted local law enforcement investigating potential threats to Walker.

As for what he thinks of Act 10, Schmitz said it didn't affect him personally because he worked in the federal government.

"I generally supported the Governor's efforts to balance the State budget," Schmitz wrote.


Talk about dumbass Right Wingers.... They are eating their own... This must be killing them.

Listen lets make this clear: it is not in the Democrats interest to attack Walker, they want him to win.

The ones with the motives to do this are other GOP candidates...

Schmitz is a Union goon. That Bush had him as a finalist means utterly nothing. He is part of the DNC terrorism machine. He was selected by the democratic party to help with the systematic terror campaign against enemies of the party (or the union, in case there is any difference.)

Schmitz is a terrorist - working with the DNC in Wisconsin to achieve political aims through violence and intimidation. He can claim he voted for Micky Mouse, or he can be some Pom claiming he is a "Cowboy," the fucker is part of a terrorist cell.

There WILL be justice for this - one way or the other. Chisholm in prison is how a civilized country does it - if we are not a civilized nation, governed by law, then it is incumbent on the people to take up arms and reclaim the nation from the lawless terrorists, the democrats. I don't know if Schmitz is guilty of the crimes that Chisholm is, but he should be investigated and certainly should never work in law, much less enforcement again.

He actually:
In addition, Schmitz said he was working for the U.S. Department of Justice during the furor over Act 10, Walker's signature legislation to restrict collective bargaining for state employees. Schmitz said he assisted local law enforcement investigating potential threats to Walker.

I work against collective bargaining... I stupid are ye. This guy has been working inside the Republican Machine for most of his working career...
You conspiracy theory of it being Democrats simply doesn't add up... Democrats love seeing Walker high on the GOP polls... The guy is toast nationally... His numbers are declining:
Walker shrugs off declining approval rating

The big problem is that he trails Clinton in his home state:
Poll Shows Scott Walker Trailing Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin - Bloomberg Politics

So please work harder because the Democrats need cannon fodder like Walker next year...
 
He actually:
In addition, Schmitz said he was working for the U.S. Department of Justice during the furor over Act 10, Walker's signature legislation to restrict collective bargaining for state employees. Schmitz said he assisted local law enforcement investigating potential threats to Walker.

I work against collective bargaining... I stupid are ye. This guy has been working inside the Republican Machine for most of his working career...
You conspiracy theory of it being Democrats simply doesn't add up... Democrats love seeing Walker high on the GOP polls... The guy is toast nationally... His numbers are declining:
Walker shrugs off declining approval rating

The big problem is that he trails Clinton in his home state:
Poll Shows Scott Walker Trailing Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin - Bloomberg Politics

So please work harder because the Democrats need cannon fodder like Walker next year...

The US DOJ under Eric Holder is a RICO level criminal enterprise.And you (or ThinkProgress) are directly lying about Schmitz as a Republican, as I posted earlier.

You spaming shit from Soros hate sites does nothing to alter the fact that Schmitz was hired BY THE democrats to join a terrorist cell to harass and intimidate enemies of the party in Wisconsin.

Either the law puts these terrorist fucks in prison, or there is no law and the public must take up arms to restore law.
 
Listening to the news from Milwaukee it is sounding as though walker is starting to back off some of his drastic cuts to education and senior care. If he possibly wants to carry his own state in an election where turnout is high he will have to do this. There are ALOT of rich republicans who are totally against a 300 million dollar cut to the UW system. That will have to be rectified as well. It will be interesting seeing public pressure to readjust and the kook brothers telling him to cut programs for the middle class more and more.
 
Listening to the news from Milwaukee it is sounding as though walker is starting to back off some of his drastic cuts to education and senior care. If he possibly wants to carry his own state in an election where turnout is high he will have to do this. There are ALOT of rich republicans who are totally against a 300 million dollar cut to the UW system. That will have to be rectified as well. It will be interesting seeing public pressure to readjust and the kook brothers telling him to cut programs for the middle class more and more.

But wait, I thought the terrorist democrats recalled Walker?

Oh wait, he OVERWHELMINGLY carried his state, so you resorted to kicking in doors in the middle of the night instead.

Terrorism - it's the way of the new breed of democrats.
 
WOW, right wingers...Chill out !!!

Your constipation is getting the best of you...You like Walker? Go for it !

Don't be "fair weather" supporters...Stick by Walker no matter what the investigations yield...Heck, even as jail-house pen-pals. LOL

You couldn't find anything on Walker, because there is nothing, So you started kicking the doors of housewives in during the middle of the night because they donated to his campaign

Y'all are terrorists.

This is a fact. democrats have sunk to open terrorism to promote their filthy war on civil rights and march to totalitarian dictatorship.

Consider a strong enema to help your condition and sour attitude....LOL

For you, I recommend a prefrontal, ideally with a rusty nail.
 
Are the desperate liberals still trying to pretend John Chisholm and Barbara Kluka weren't the prosecutor and judge that set up all these bogus cases, midnight raids etc. as the article describes?

When these people are caught, they will tell any lie to hide their party's depravity and lawlessness, won't they?
 
The modern Republicans are like the old Soviet communists, loyal to their party instead of their country. It's not a political party any more, it's the Republican crime syndicate.

When did you become a Republican?

What is really funny is that the same people that post that republicans are always party of country are the exact same people that are always getting in a circle jerk over the tea party tearing the party apart.
True double think – 2 opposite and conflicting ideas in the same mind and they are demanding that they are both completely true.
 
Ahh this is lovely... In the old HArd Right all things bad must be a democrat.

"
The Special Prosecutor appointed to take on the matter is Francis Schmitz, a thirty-year federal prosecutor who had been one of President George W. Bush’s ‘final three’ recommended candidates to become the U.S. Attorney for Milwaukee.

"

But here is the dagger in the horse manure from the right:
John Doe special prosecutor says he voted for Scott Walker in recall

"I voted for Governor Scott Walker in Wisconsin's 2012 gubernatorial recall election," Schmitz said in a sworn declaration filed with the U.S. District Court on Tuesday.

In his declaration, Schmitz acknowledged that he was once a member of the Republican Party. He said he took the step of joining the GOP "in connection with seeking the Presidential appointment as the United States Attorney" for the Milwaukee area after the 2002 election.

In addition, Schmitz said he was working for the U.S. Department of Justice during the furor over Act 10, Walker's signature legislation to restrict collective bargaining for state employees. Schmitz said he assisted local law enforcement investigating potential threats to Walker.

As for what he thinks of Act 10, Schmitz said it didn't affect him personally because he worked in the federal government.

"I generally supported the Governor's efforts to balance the State budget," Schmitz wrote.


Talk about dumbass Right Wingers.... They are eating their own... This must be killing them.

Listen lets make this clear: it is not in the Democrats interest to attack Walker, they want him to win.

The ones with the motives to do this are other GOP candidates...

Schmitz is a Union goon. That Bush had him as a finalist means utterly nothing. He is part of the DNC terrorism machine. He was selected by the democratic party to help with the systematic terror campaign against enemies of the party (or the union, in case there is any difference.)

Schmitz is a terrorist - working with the DNC in Wisconsin to achieve political aims through violence and intimidation. He can claim he voted for Micky Mouse, or he can be some Pom claiming he is a "Cowboy," the fucker is part of a terrorist cell.

There WILL be justice for this - one way or the other. Chisholm in prison is how a civilized country does it - if we are not a civilized nation, governed by law, then it is incumbent on the people to take up arms and reclaim the nation from the lawless terrorists, the democrats. I don't know if Schmitz is guilty of the crimes that Chisholm is, but he should be investigated and certainly should never work in law, much less enforcement again.

He actually:
In addition, Schmitz said he was working for the U.S. Department of Justice during the furor over Act 10, Walker's signature legislation to restrict collective bargaining for state employees. Schmitz said he assisted local law enforcement investigating potential threats to Walker.

I work against collective bargaining... I stupid are ye. This guy has been working inside the Republican Machine for most of his working career...
You conspiracy theory of it being Democrats simply doesn't add up... Democrats love seeing Walker high on the GOP polls... The guy is toast nationally... His numbers are declining:
Walker shrugs off declining approval rating

The big problem is that he trails Clinton in his home state:
Poll Shows Scott Walker Trailing Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin - Bloomberg Politics

So please work harder because the Democrats need cannon fodder like Walker next year...

I see a lot of posting about whether or not he is a democrat – something that is utterly immaterial to the real problem behind what is alleged here.
I also see nothing whatsoever that tries to disprove what was going on. This is little more than a distraction.
 
I see a lot of posting about whether or not he is a democrat – something that is utterly immaterial to the real problem behind what is alleged here.
I also see nothing whatsoever that tries to disprove what was going on. This is little more than a distraction.
Of course.

When liberals cannot refute (as they usually can't), they try to pretend the facts aren't there. They ignore them, change the subject, bring up irrelevancies, start calling names etc.

As they have been doing on this subject since it started.
 

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