CDZ Should we hire out our military operations to private companies?

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    and just for the record and this conversation , my comments and thoughts are my thoughts since the early 70s and only refer to modern all volunteer military that work for money , rewards and other perks and favors . ------------- just saying !!
     
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    and because of other comments i want to distance myself from . I think that USA Military should be made up of a mix of only enlisted or DRAFTED American Citizens and thats it !!
     
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    They work for where the money is. We hire a group that goes out. They have all of the information. You have no control over that. You are liable. You pay them more than you would your own. The next president comes along and shifts policy or the next congress shifts funding. They have all of the information.

    There is a reason that we don't want a privatized police force. It's the same reason that we don't want a privatized military. In fact, there is no aspect of our government that should be outsourced especially when it involves national security. Mercenaries have been around since antiquity so it isn't like we can walk in and say didn't see that one coming.
     
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    Excellent comments above. Running around with the Montagnard militia in the highlands was one thing. Letting Blackwater run our wars is way too dangerous.
     
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    Since corporate profit seems to be America's first priority, then by all means, privatize the troops, even though most of them join today due to the diminishing job prospects out there in the great free market. There will still be military jobs available, but none of this b.s. like pensions and free health care.
     
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    People have been bitching about military spending being way too high for a long time and it's true, they have a point. And so, it's only smart business for the DoD to take an honest look at what can be done to cut costs without sacrificing effectiveness. We've already been doing this since the 80s and 90s, hiring civil service and civilian contractors to do non-combat functions. Trust me when I tell you that civilian contractors cost the gov't much less over the long run than does civil service, who in turn cost much less than a military member. Ever try to fire a civil service person? It ain't easy bro, but it doesn't take long to can a civilian contractor and that is not an insignificant factor.

    Today we are using drones and robots and satellites to do things that people used to do. Which means in addition to be cheaper also means less risk to human life and limb. There's no reason why we shouldn't continue to replace humans with other means to do what is necessary, or to replace military serve members with cheaper civilians where it makes sense if a non-human resource won't work.

    Other thing is, we need to find alternatives to lethal force that can persuade potential enemies and adversaries that it is not to their advantage to mess with us. Such as EMPs and the like, knocking out your communications and power grid and sending a given location virtually back to the stone age ought to give pause for thought. Seems as though we ought to be able to convince people to act responsibly without resorting to a MOAB or a drone missile up your ass.
     
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    Uh, no....none of those companies represent any threat at all to America.
     
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    Of course they do, Fort Fun Indiana. Your simple denial is meaningless.
     
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    No they don't, and what a ridiculous thing to say. You could line them all up together and we would mop the floor with them in about 12 hours. How can you even say that with a straight face...
     
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