Should the control of public schools be returned to the states?

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    As most should know but maybe they do not...Public Schools are under control of the Federal Government.

    How did that come about? Most probably do not remember the days when most kids lived closed enough to their public school they could walk or bike there.

    All that changed when the government became obsessed with forcing integration on everyone. We all know how that has big one stupdenouos failure to the tune of billions and billions of dollars....and there is no end in sight....the the Feds keep puring money into that failed concept trying to make it work. If they had spent all that money on creating quality schools for blacks as well as for whites....we would have one fantastic school system.

    Does anyone know just how one program alone involved with that costs us billions of dollars....bussing......huge,huge, hugely expensive and all it has done is to transfer ghetto problems to the suburbs.

    No one knows the problems of the public schools like the local officials...but what is happening of course is that bureaucrats in Washington far removed .....are creating the policies for our public schools.

    Depite all the evidence that Washington is the huge problem in so many areas....some want to give more and more control to the Feds. Why is that?
     
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    Federal dollars are only 10% of my district's school revenues, and yes, they have to jump through ridiculous loops that actually harm education rather then help it; we could buy home schooling materials for around $600-$1,020 per student and teach them with those that and do it cheaper ourselves without Federal 'aid' and 'guidelines', so they really do no good. They did much better before it became a radical goal to seize control of the schools and use them for indoctrination camps in the 1970's.

    We have more bureaucrats than teachers now, teachers aren't allowed to discipline kids, and parents are of course a major problem themselves. The small 6th grade classroom in the field down the block was turned into an administration building back in the 1980's; those now cover the entire 10 acres, and our district has been failing the standards tests the last two years, mainly due to criminal illegal aliens flooding the system as well as massively useless bureaucrats with no apparent function other than satisfying racial quotas.
     
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    You want school resources to be based even more on local wealth?

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    Week 1: Why America's Schools Have A Money Problem
    More broadly: "You've got highly segregated rich and poor towns," says Bruce Baker of Rutgers University, who studies how states pay for their public schools. "[They] raise vastly different amounts of local revenue based on their local bases, and [Illinois] really doesn't put much effort into counterbalancing that."

    To be fair, Illinois gives more money to Ridge than it does to Rondout. It's just not nearly enough to level the playing field.
     
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    Too bad having more money doesn't do much. The generation that sent people to the moon and created all kinds of new inventions and science went to schools that had only blackboards and chalk; today they have all kinds of gadgets, laptops, and other rubbish and they're producing mostly halfwits with high self-esteem.
     
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    Yeah, you want school resources to be determined by community wealth. Just come out and say it.

    One of those other districts sits less than an hour north, in Chicago's affluent suburbs, nestled into a warren of corporate offices: Rondout School, the only campus in Rondout District 72.

    It has 22 teachers and 145 students, and spent $28,639 on each one of them.

    What does that look like?

    Class sizes in Rondout are small, and every student has an individualized learning plan. Nearly all teachers have a decade of experience and earn, on average, more than $90,000. Kids have at least one daily break for "mindful movement," and lunch is cooked on-site, including a daily vegetarian option.
    Week 1: Why America's Schools Have A Money Problem
     
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    Absolutely. Per the Tenth Amendment, the federal government has no business sticking its nose into education.
     
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    I'll come out and say it.

    IT is unconstitutional of the Federal Government to be involved in Education.

    Let the States deal with it, if at all.

    When the Government gets involved in education, the temptation to indoctrinate is too tempting.


    Why do you think "education" is compulsory and not voluntary? Because what they have constructed is no longer education, it is indoctrination.

    It is a fallacy to believe that MORE RESOURCES = BETTER EDUCATION. This first needs to be proved.

    More Money Does Not Equal Better Public Schools
     
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    Few schools can't afford blackboards and chalk, dumbass.
     
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    Should the control of public schools be returned to the states?

    No.


    Schools should be privatized outright.
     
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