Should Army National Guard Troops Shoot Illegal Border Crossers ?

[there4eyeM]

Who needs the U.S. Army? Where are all the brave firearms advocates? These 'good guys with guns' have the opportunity to make a patriotic gesture and assemble at the border. Isn't that what all their weapons are supposed to be for? What could be more satisfying for them? They dream of ferociously defending their house from being penetrated, here their mother country is about to be entered!

None of them really has the balls to do something like that.

Are they going to allow their territory to be violated?

 

[Anathema]

So you'd be for killing a toddler who can barely walk and is holding the hand of their mother of father? What kind of monster is for that? Oh wait......

I would be for demanding it if any troops serving under me. Those that refused would be shots themselves. The toddler might not be a threat today, but they may well be tomorrow. Not willing to take that chance.

 

[there4eyeM]

We should tell these newcomers about Kent State. American soldiers kill young, unarmed brothers and sisters, why not little brown people?

 

[sparky]

why not little brown people

Are U a Carlin fan 4eyeM?



~S~

 

[danielpalos]

Then only rogue agents here are un American socialists like you

What makes you think I'm a socialist?

he is to the right of You, and he has no argument.

The whole right and left thing is a farce. I'm for economic freedom. It's telling that, to Trumpsters, that spells "socialist".

i prefer to try to convince either party or the democrats of left wing ideology and the federal doctrine.

we can get, doctrinal, with the federal doctrine.

And you're off to the races ...

I suppose all your rambling makes sense to you at some level. Seriously though, it's not persuasive - or even intelligible.

lol. thank goodness, you have the federal mission in writing;

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[caddo kid]

When I served in the Army National Guard, I was told the first duty of the Army National Guard is to do what the name "National Guard" clearly states > to guard the nation. And the first priority of that is to stop foreigners from invading the USA.

And the definition of invading

? > "to enter forcibly or hostilely" (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 5th ed.) Well, the caravaners already entered Mexico, from Guatemala, forcibly, and one could call it hostilely, being that it's disrespecting Mexico's immigration and border law. In doing so, the border crossers tore down fences and physical barriers.

There's no doubt that the thousands of people in this caravan have exactly that same thing in mind for the United States. The solution to stop them, according to my National Guard officers is to meet the force with greater force, and use whatever force is necessary to stop and repel the invaders.

Since an effective border wall is not yet in place or electrified fencing, barbed wire, etc, this would mean possibly shooting hundreds of the caravaners, gassing them at the border, or possibly even using artillery. The military has its job to do, the question is can (and should) we allow Honduras, Guatemala and other countries to invade us ?​

Why not? The 'Guard' murdered at least eight Americans at Kent State & not a goddamn one paid any price for it.

Go ahead; just f***ing shoot.

 

[Kittymom1026]

So you'd be for killing a toddler who can barely walk and is holding the hand of their mother of father? What kind of monster is for that? Oh wait......

I would be for demanding it if any troops serving under me. Those that refused would be shots themselves. The toddler might not be a threat today, but they may well be tomorrow. Not willing to take that chance.

Have you ever seen the movie, Animal House?" You would be Neidermyer, killed by his own troops. No one in their right mind would kill a toddler in cold blood walking along with their parent but an evil psychopath with no soul. Sound familiar?

 

[protectionist]

TRump set it up. Getting the base fired up.

Trump set WHAT up ? Are you talking crazy again ?

 

[protectionist]

So let's 'invade' S America with the same 'democracy building' shtick we did in the M.E.

Something like that might be exactly what's needs for some of these Central American countries. Too much neglect down there is affecting us here.

 

[protectionist]

So, you still haven't read it then.

I suggest you stop posting about it until you do, you're just making yourself look stupid.

Well stupider.

YOU need to read the posts I et al posted refuting her dumb Posse Comitatus post. Looks like YOU haven't read THEM. Stop suggesting and read.

 

[protectionist]

Trump's good at shootin' himself in the foot
~S~

You're good at making statements without any basis.

 

[protectionist]

`Ah the spouse abusers' excuse..."Look what you are making us do! It's your fault I have to be violent!"

Once again, defending is not being violent.

 

[protectionist]

The right wing doesn't care about natural rights.

YOU don't care about TRUTH.

 

[protectionist]

I have read the thread. You have addressed nothing, nearly attempted to dismiss it.

Denied.

FALSE, and NO you have not read the thread . You lie. It was already addressed 30 times. Go back and read the thread.

Fool - this isn't a misdeameanor crime situation. It's an invasion of THOUSANDS of people. That's why Trump is changing it from Border Patrol arrests, to a military response.

I shouldn't have to be taking the time to tell you AGAIN what has already been said repeatedly. Post responsibly, or GET OUT of the the thread. you clown.

 

[protectionist]

How many who are advocating shooting refugees at our border are the ones willing to do it themselves?

Probably most of us, and that's proved by us having already served in the military, and law enforcement.

 

[dblack]

So you'd be for killing a toddler who can barely walk and is holding the hand of their mother of father? What kind of monster is for that? Oh wait......

I would be for demanding it if any troops serving under me. Those that refused would be shots themselves. The toddler might not be a threat today, but they may well be tomorrow. Not willing to take that chance.

Have you ever seen the movie, Animal House?" You would be Neidermyer, killed by his own troops. No one in their right mind would kill a toddler in cold blood walking along with their parent but an evil psychopath with no soul. Sound familiar?

It's all delusions of grandeur. They'd never let him near a gun.

 

[Crepitus]

TRump set it up. Getting the base fired up.

Trump set WHAT up ? Are you talking crazy again ?

What post was I responding to? Try to keep up kiddo.

 

[Crepitus]

So, you still haven't read it then.

I suggest you stop posting about it until you do, you're just making yourself look stupid.

Well stupider.

YOU need to read the posts I et al posted refuting her dumb Posse Comitatus post. Looks like YOU haven't read THEM. Stop suggesting and read.

You are wrong.

It's not a surprise.

 

[Crepitus]

I have read the thread. You have addressed nothing, nearly attempted to dismiss it.

Denied.

FALSE, and NO you have not read the thread . You lie. It was already addressed 30 times. Go back and read the thread.

Fool - this isn't a misdeameanor crime situation. It's an invasion of THOUSANDS of people. That's why Trump is changing it from Border Patrol arrests, to a military response.

I shouldn't have to be taking the time to tell you AGAIN what has already been said repeatedly. Post responsibly, or GET OUT of the the thread. you clown.

Only RWNJs are saying the word invasion.

These caravans happen all the time. You guys are just trying to fearmonger.

 

[protectionist]

Refugees. Please point out incidences of "marauding".

The entire situation is marauding. ALL of it.

Now go ahead and answer my questions, Mr DODGE. Would you call them block partiers ? Picnicers ?

And "Refugees" ? Yeah ? How so ? "Refugees" from WHAT ? Or are you going to dodge that question too ?