Should Army National Guard Troops Shoot Illegal Border Crossers ?

[bodecea]

Can you just imagine the optics of our military shooting unarmed men, women, and children on the border?

 

[dblack]

Can you just imagine the optics of our military shooting unarmed men, women, and children on the border?

I can certainly imagine Trump's pathetic excuses.

 

[Desperado]

Also makes you wonder about the timing. This fiasco set off just before the midterms.
Makes you wonder who (Soros?) is funding this.
The only way this could backfire is if Trump does nothing and the immigrants are allow in the US.

I dunno. There might be rogue agents.

Then only rogue agents here are un American socialists like you

What makes you think I'm a socialist?

Find it strange that you are annoyed I called you a socialist
but are not upset I said you were un American
I think that says it all

 

[dblack]

Also makes you wonder about the timing. This fiasco set off just before the midterms.
Makes you wonder who (Soros?) is funding this.
The only way this could backfire is if Trump does nothing and the immigrants are allow in the US.

I dunno. There might be rogue agents.

Then only rogue agents here are un American socialists like you

What makes you think I'm a socialist?

but are not upset I said you were un American
I think that says it all

I'm never "upset" by internet insults. Especially not by Trump supporters, who speak with utterly no moral authority.

 

[skookerasbil]

Hey if liberals in America want to march down to the border and hand each of these folks a $250,000 check....Amen....let 'em in. I'm all for it!!!

Problem is, it is exceedingly difficult to find a liberal that factors costs into their thinking. Its fascinating....no consideration of costs. None!

 

[bodecea]

Can you just imagine the optics of our military shooting unarmed men, women, and children on the border?

I can certainly imagine Trump's pathetic excuses.

Haven't you been paying attention? Even tho it hasn't happened yet, the tiny trumpanzees are blaming Democrats already.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Absolutely. The military should have been down to the border with machine guns long before this. Had we done what nations who protect their borders should do we would not have men and women with kidnapped children trying to force their way into the country.

 

[August West]

It would be sickening if it came to that, but this invasion has to be stopped or we're going to eventually lose our country folks to the third-world.

If you're a middle-class American and have a nice job, home, family, all those things that have made most Americans love their country, could all slip away if we do not act.

Invasion? Are they firing Tomahawk missiles into our cities and landing armed troops? Iraqis know what an invasion is. You don`t. Nothing slipped away when 125,000 Cubans came to Florida in 1980. Some people are easily scared. BOO!

 

[dblack]

Invasion? Are they firing Tomahawk missiles into our cities and landing armed troops? Iraqis know what an invasion is. You don`t. Nothing slipped away when 125,000 Cubans came to Florida in 1980. Some people are easily scared. BOO!

Oh, they're first class chickenshits. Hiding behind a wall from people threatening to mow our lawns and make us tacos. While their fearless leader fellates murdering Saudis on live TV.

 

[Anathema]

]But we still don't need US troops, when we have the Army National Guard, the Air National Guard, and the Coast Guard, in addition to Border Patrol, local police and state police + private armed citizens. I'm hoping that these crazies will turn back, since if the National Guard is there and governors or Trump unleash them, the caravan mob will be mincemeat.

Sorry but I prefer professional soldiers secure the border than the amateurs. No LEOs. This is a WAR, not a police action.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It would be sickening if it came to that, but this invasion has to be stopped or we're going to eventually lose our country folks to the third-world.

If you're a middle-class American and have a nice job, home, family, all those things that have made most Americans love their country, could all slip away if we do not act.

Invasion? Are they firing Tomahawk missiles into our cities and landing armed troops? Iraqis know what an invasion is. You don`t. Nothing slipped away when 125,000 Cubans came to Florida in 1980. Some people are easily scared. BOO!

I prefer kaBOOm.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

]But we still don't need US troops, when we have the Army National Guard, the Air National Guard, and the Coast Guard, in addition to Border Patrol, local police and state police + private armed citizens. I'm hoping that these crazies will turn back, since if the National Guard is there and governors or Trump unleash them, the caravan mob will be mincemeat.

Sorry but I prefer professional soldiers secure the border than the amateurs. No LEOs. This is a WAR, not a police action.

Open the border to hunters.

 

[Anathema]

Open the border to hunters.

No. Again, I prefer professional, trained assets rather than amateurs. Like LEOs, the hunters would likely be overrun by the border crossers, putting more weapons in the hands of the invaders.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Shoot unarmed civilians?

Fairness Fairies

The invading savages are instructed to force us to follow some imaginary, pseudo-ethical, and suicidal rule that force can only be met with equal force. But patriots would rule that it is our duty to stop any and all criminal activity in the quickest and most final way possible, no matter how little force is used by the enemy to get their way.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

NO.

The very question is an affront to American values.

Surrender Soirée

Being a doormat is not an American value. You're confusing us with the French.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Open the border to hunters.

No. Again, I prefer professional, trained assets rather than amateurs. Like LEOs, the hunters would likely be overrun by the border crossers, putting more weapons in the hands of the invaders.

American hunters not only would not be overrun, but wouldn't be as fussy.

 

[Anathema]

American hunters not only would not be overrun, but wouldn't be as fussy.

Yes the hunters would be overrun. By the sheer numbers of illegals if nothing else.

The US Military shouldn’t be fussy either. Shoot anyone who crosses the border illegally; regardless of age, gender, race, nationality, etc...

 

[Kittymom1026]

American hunters not only would not be overrun, but wouldn't be as fussy.

Yes the hunters would be overrun. By the sheer numbers of illegals if nothing else.

The US Military shouldn’t be fussy either. Shoot anyone who crosses the border illegally; regardless of age, gender, race, nationality, etc...

So you'd be for killing a toddler who can barely walk and is holding the hand of their mother of father? What kind of monster is for that? Oh wait......

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Remove the toddlers and try to find out where they were kidnapped from. Return them to their families.

 

[Rustic]

When I served in the Army National Guard, I was told the first duty of the Army National Guard is to do what the name "National Guard" clearly states > to guard the nation. And the first priority of that is to stop foreigners from invading the USA.

And the definition of invading

? > "to enter forcibly or hostilely" (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 5th ed.) Well, the caravaners already entered Mexico, from Guatemala, forcibly, and one could call it hostilely, being that it's disrespecting Mexico's immigration and border law. In doing so, the border crossers tore down fences and physical barriers.

There's no doubt that the thousands of people in this caravan have exactly that same thing in mind for the United States. The solution to stop them, according to my National Guard officers is to meet the force with greater force, and use whatever force is necessary to stop and repel the invaders.

Since an effective border wall is not yet in place or electrified fencing, barbed wire, etc, this would mean possibly shooting hundreds of the caravaners, gassing them at the border, or possibly even using artillery. The military has its job to do, the question is can (and should) we allow Honduras, Guatemala and other countries to invade us ?​

Shoot first ask questions later...