Shooting at the Kroger's.....they named the shooter, he wasn't white, or a Trump voter, the story is now gone.....

[2aguy]

Typical....

The Kroger shooting this week? The shooter turned out to be Asian, likely no ties to conservatives or Trump....and since they haven't told us what type of gun he used, likely not an AR-15......

So this story is now gone......

 

[mudwhistle]

Typical....

The Kroger shooting this week? The shooter turned out to be Asian, likely no ties to conservatives or Trump....and since they haven't told us what type of gun he used, likely not an AR-15......

So this story is now gone......

The damage is done.
Reporting a shooting of any kind on national news will create copy-cats.....and they know this.
Soon there will be another.....and another.
Biden needs something to get the media off of his back....so he can start blasting gun owners again.

 

[Crepitus]

Typical....

The Kroger shooting this week? The shooter turned out to be Asian, likely no ties to conservatives or Trump....and since they haven't told us what type of gun he used, likely not an AR-15......

So this story is now gone......

Nothing to do with it. They've just got new shootings to cover.

Shooting outside of Alabama high school football game halts the contest and causes alarm in the stands | CNN

A man was wounded in a shooting outside a central Alabama high school football game Friday night, halting the game for the night as alarm spread in the stands and on the field.

www.cnn.com

 

[JoeB131]

Typical....

The Kroger shooting this week? The shooter turned out to be Asian, likely no ties to conservatives or Trump....and since they haven't told us what type of gun he used, likely not an AR-15......

So this story is now gone......

Here's why the story is gone.

Because it's the 437th death in a mass shooting this year.

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And he only killed one person, who was a grown woman.

Now if he killed multiple people and they were kids, it would probably last longer, we might even pay attention for a whole week.

And you sputter out your usual crap.

"Most guns weren't used in crimes."
"Cheese Doodles are more Dangerous than Assault rifles"
"Those people were minorities, so it was okay".

 

[JoeB131]

The damage is done.
Reporting a shooting of any kind on national news will create copy-cats.....and they know this.
Soon there will be another.....and another.
Biden needs something to get the media off of his back....so he can start blasting gun owners again.

here's why we will keeping having them.

Because you gun fetishists don't want mental health to be a criteria for owning a gun. Understandable, a lot of you are a couple tacos short of a combination platter.

 

[bodecea]

Typical....

The Kroger shooting this week? The shooter turned out to be Asian, likely no ties to conservatives or Trump....and since they haven't told us what type of gun he used, likely not an AR-15......

So this story is now gone......

Just one died...another day in 'Merica.

 

[Votto]

The damage is done.
Reporting a shooting of any kind on national news will create copy-cats.....and they know this.
Soon there will be another.....and another.
Biden needs something to get the media off of his back....so he can start blasting gun owners again.

Biden is more into whips and cowboys at the border these days than guns.

Kinky.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Shooting at the Kroger's.....they named the shooter, he wasn't white, or a Trump voter, the story is now gone.....

This is a lie and a strawman fallacy.

 

[2aguy]

Here's why the story is gone.

Because it's the 437th death in a mass shooting this year.

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And he only killed one person, who was a grown woman.

Now if he killed multiple people and they were kids, it would probably last longer, we might even pay attention for a whole week.

And you sputter out your usual crap.

"Most guns weren't used in crimes."
"Cheese Doodles are more Dangerous than Assault rifles"
"Those people were minorities, so it was okay".

That is a lie....there have not been 437 mass public shootings....this is why we think anti-gun extremists like you are scumbags....you lie...with every single post....

How many mass public shootings were there in...

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

The Actual definition of Mass Public shootings?

US mass shootings, 1982–2021: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
  • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
• • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  • ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker.

We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence.


(Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

 

[2aguy]

Here's why the story is gone.

Because it's the 437th death in a mass shooting this year.

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And he only killed one person, who was a grown woman.

Now if he killed multiple people and they were kids, it would probably last longer, we might even pay attention for a whole week.

And you sputter out your usual crap.

"Most guns weren't used in crimes."
"Cheese Doodles are more Dangerous than Assault rifles"
"Those people were minorities, so it was okay".

You are a liar....they stopped covering the story because the shooter was an Asian male.....not a white guy.....and no matter how they tried, they could find no connection to conservatives or Donald Trump.....and he likely did not use an AR-15 rifle...

You lying about it simply confirms that you and your extremists will do absolutely anything to ban and confiscate guns.

 

[2aguy]

here's why we will keeping having them.

Because you gun fetishists don't want mental health to be a criteria for owning a gun. Understandable, a lot of you are a couple tacos short of a combination platter.

More than 330 million Americans...

2 individuals in 2020 conducted mass public shootings....no, the pandemic didn't decrease the numbers since big box stores and grocery stores were still open and flooded with people...

12 individuals in 2019.....conducted mass public shootings...

Total killed in 2020...9

Total killed in 2019....73


Deer kill over 200 people every year.

Lawn mowers kill between 90-100 people every year.

Ladders kill 300 people every year.

Bathtubs kill 350 people a year.

Mass public shooters, are the rarest of rare events and kill fewer people each year than deer do.....you simplistic moron...

2 individuals out of over 330 million people in 2020.

12 individuals out of over 330 million people in 2019.

You have no rational case for anything you believe...you are insane.

 

[2aguy]

Just one died...another day in 'Merica.

More than 330 million Americans...

2 individuals in 2020 conducted mass public shootings....no, the pandemic didn't decrease the numbers since big box stores and grocery stores were still open and flooded with people...

12 individuals in 2019.....conducted mass public shootings...

Total killed in 2020...9

Total killed in 2019....73


Deer kill over 200 people every year.

Lawn mowers kill between 90-100 people every year.

Ladders kill 300 people every year.

Bathtubs kill 350 people a year.

Mass public shooters, are the rarest of rare events and kill fewer people each year than deer do.....you simplistic moron...

2 individuals out of over 330 million people in 2020.

12 individuals out of over 330 million people in 2019.

You have no rational case for anything you believe...you are insane.

 

[bodecea]

That is a lie....there have not been 437 mass public shootings....this is why we think anti-gun extremists like you are scumbags....you lie...with every single post....

How many mass public shootings were there in...

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

The Actual definition of Mass Public shootings?

US mass shootings, 1982–2021: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
  • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
• • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  • ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker.

We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence.


(Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

Another reason to be proud of 'MERICA?

 

[candycorn]

Typical....

The Kroger shooting this week? The shooter turned out to be Asian, likely no ties to conservatives or Trump....and since they haven't told us what type of gun he used, likely not an AR-15......

So this story is now gone......

Thanks to the 2nd amendment, violence is so commonplace that shootings seldom make the news any more.

 

[2aguy]

Thanks to the 2nd amendment, violence is so commonplace that shootings seldom make the news any more.

No...the 2nd Amendment doesn't cause violence any more than the 1st Amendment incites violence...

The policies of the democrat party, the war on police, and releasing violent criminals regardless of how many times they commit violent crimes is what increases violent gun crime....

Meanwhile...

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct





that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—



Money saved from people not being beaten, raped, murdered, robbed?.......





So figuring that the average DGU saves one half of a person’s life—as “gun violence” predominantly affects younger demographics—that gives us $3.465 million per half life.

Putting this all together, we find that the monetary benefit of guns (by way of DGUs) is roughly $1.02 trillion per year. That’s trillion. With a ‘T’.

I was going to go on and calculate the costs of incarceration ($50K/year) saved by people killing 1527 criminals annually, and then look at the lifetime cost to society of an average criminal (something in excess of $1 million). But all of that would be a drop in the bucket compared to the $1,000,000,000,000 ($1T) annual benefit of gun ownership.

When compared to the (inflation adjusted from 2002) $127.5 billion ‘cost’ of gun violence calculated by by our Ludwig-Cook buddies, guns save a little more than eight times what they “cost.”

Which, I might add, is completely irrelevant since “the freedom to own and carry the weapon of your choice is a natural, fundamental, and inalienable human, individual, civil, and Constitutional right — subject neither to the democratic process nor to arguments grounded in social utility.”

So even taking Motherboard’s own total and multiplying it by 100, the benefits to society of civilian gun ownership dwarf the associated costs.


Annual Defensive Gun Use Savings Dwarf Study's "Gun Violence" Costs - The Truth About Guns

 

[2aguy]

Another reason to be proud of 'MERICA?

Reasons to be proud of America...?

Ending slavery after beating the democrat party during the Civil War...guns.

The Civil Rights movement...aided by....guns.

World War 1...saving Europe...guns.

World War 2....saving Europe part 2.....guns.

Keeping Russia from conquering Europe since the end of World War 2......guns.....

Keeping Europeans from killing each other again...since they started 2 world wars and murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children...? More guns ....

 

[Jarlaxle]

This is a lie and a strawman fallacy.

No, actually, it is 100% correct and you know this.

 

[Likkmee]

here's why we will keeping having them.

Because you gun fetishists don't want mental health to be a criteria for owning a gun. Understandable, a lot of you are a couple tacos short of a combination platter.

Yeah ?. I'm gluten free !

 

[toobfreak]

So this story is now gone......

1 dead, 14 hurt in shooting at Kroger grocery store near Memphis, suspected gunman identified: Police

Police are responding to a shooting at a Krogers grocery store near Memphis, Tennessee.

abcnews.go.com

MSN

www.msn.com

What we know about the Collierville Kroger shooting: 10 employees, 5 customers shot

One person was killed in a mass shooting at a Kroger in Collierville TN and 15 were injured. The gunman died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

www.tennessean.com

 

[JoeB131]

That is a lie....there have not been 437 mass public shootings....

Uh, guy, if you define mass shootings the way you do, then this wasn't a mass shooting. A mass shooting is any incident where more than one person was killed or injured, as opposed to the single shootings where only one person is killed or injured.

Only one person died, but a lot were injured, so mass shooting.

We've had 437 of them so far this year.

More than 330 million Americans...

2 individuals in 2020 conducted mass public shootings....no, the pandemic didn't decrease the numbers since big box stores and grocery stores were still open and flooded with people...

Actually, the homicide rate increased in 2020... proving once again most homicides are people being killed by friends and family, and we clearly can stand each other.

Mass shootings in the US increased during the coronavirus pandemic, study finds | CNN

Mass shootings in the United States increased during the coronavirus pandemic, and even doubled in July 2020 compared to a year earlier, according to research published in the journal JAMA Open Network Thursday.

www.cnn.com

Murders up nearly 30% nationwide in 2020

However the national murder rate remains significantly lower the early 1990s.

www.axios.com