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I'm still wondering how being mainstream is bad. Shocking, I get because the left has tried to paint the Tea Party as something other than mainstream.
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Last week, the ongoing debate over what we know about the tea partiers took a new turn, with scores of conservative commentators like The LA Times' Andrew Malcolm and Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds assuring us that a new Gallup poll proves the TPers are not a "fringe" or "racist" group.
But the Gallup results only confirm that tea partiers are "mainstream" in their demographics, when what really matters are their attitudes. Results released Friday of a new multi-state poll of white voters conducted by the University of Washington's Christopher Parker paint a more complicated picture. The survey asked white respondents about their attitudes toward the tea party movement--and their attitudes toward non-whites, immigrants and homosexuals.
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: New Data on Tea Party Sympathizers
I would hope all commenting on the poll took the time to actually review its criteria - as well as the very limited sample group and oddly phrased questions.
As another put it so well:
The graphs compare tea partiers to anti-tea partiers, and there's no indication what portions of the whites were in each camp. So how can you draw comparisons to "mainstream whites" What does that even mean?
Speaking of 'what?' - what poll now is asking people if they think of an ethnic group as intelligent? Does that mean AS intelligent as whites? AS hardworking? It's a nonsensical question for anyone who sees them as human and so inherently diverse in these traits. Moreso, it will measure aversive racism.
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: New Data on Tea Party Sympathizers
It was Johnson who signed the civil rights act, not Kennedy.Last week, the ongoing debate over what we know about the tea partiers took a new turn, with scores of conservative commentators like The LA Times' Andrew Malcolm and Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds assuring us that a new Gallup poll proves the TPers are not a "fringe" or "racist" group.
But the Gallup results only confirm that tea partiers are "mainstream" in their demographics, when what really matters are their attitudes. Results released Friday of a new multi-state poll of white voters conducted by the University of Washington's Christopher Parker paint a more complicated picture. The survey asked white respondents about their attitudes toward the tea party movement--and their attitudes toward non-whites, immigrants and homosexuals.
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: New Data on Tea Party Sympathizers
sad. these are the people and their progeny who left the Democratic party for Reagan and the race baiters of the GOP (Southern Strategy).
they say they want 'their' country back. Their country?
I remember many I know saying they went with Reagan because Kennedy helped the fuckin' '*******' I used to cringe at that kind of talk, then I got like Obama---I understood they are just angry and frustrated that the world is changing all around them
I'm still wondering how being mainstream is bad. Shocking, I get because the left has tried to paint the Tea Party as something other than mainstream.
I would hope all commenting on the poll took the time to actually review its criteria - as well as the very limited sample group and oddly phrased questions.
As another put it so well:
The graphs compare tea partiers to anti-tea partiers, and there's no indication what portions of the whites were in each camp. So how can you draw comparisons to "mainstream whites" What does that even mean?
Speaking of 'what?' - what poll now is asking people if they think of an ethnic group as intelligent? Does that mean AS intelligent as whites? AS hardworking? It's a nonsensical question for anyone who sees them as human and so inherently diverse in these traits. Moreso, it will measure aversive racism.
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: New Data on Tea Party Sympathizers
Keep deflecting, but the truth is apparent.
I would hope all commenting on the poll took the time to actually review its criteria - as well as the very limited sample group and oddly phrased questions.
As another put it so well:
The graphs compare tea partiers to anti-tea partiers, and there's no indication what portions of the whites were in each camp. So how can you draw comparisons to "mainstream whites" What does that even mean?
Speaking of 'what?' - what poll now is asking people if they think of an ethnic group as intelligent? Does that mean AS intelligent as whites? AS hardworking? It's a nonsensical question for anyone who sees them as human and so inherently diverse in these traits. Moreso, it will measure aversive racism.
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: New Data on Tea Party Sympathizers
Keep deflecting, but the truth is apparent.
Yup. The truth is that the Teapartiers are mainstream. And, that is bad how?
It was Johnson who signed the civil rights act, not Kennedy.
The neo-progressives are so out of step with the mainstream, they have no idea where it is anymore..
It was Johnson who signed the civil rights act, not Kennedy.
I think he was talking about Ted, not John.
If Teapartiers being mainstream is bullshit, then I suppose you have a point.The neo-progressives are so out of step with the mainstream, they have no idea where it is anymore..
Do you actually believe the bullshit you spew? Or does that paycheck soften the blow?
It was Johnson who signed the civil rights act, not Kennedy.
sad. these are the people and their progeny who left the Democratic party for Reagan and the race baiters of the GOP (Southern Strategy).
they say they want 'their' country back. Their country?
I remember many I know saying they went with Reagan because Kennedy helped the fuckin' '*******' I used to cringe at that kind of talk, then I got like Obama---I understood they are just angry and frustrated that the world is changing all around them
No he wasn't.
Why would Democrats support Reagan because of Ted Kennedy?
C'mon pard - that was dumb even by your own lacking standards...
A poll that reflects a mainstream opinion?No he wasn't.
Why would Democrats support Reagan because of Ted Kennedy?
C'mon pard - that was dumb even by your own lacking standards...
Ted Kennedy ran for the Democratic Nomination in 1980. Which is why I said maybe he was talking about Ted. I wasn't sure and I even said so.
You even trying to call someone dumb is hilarious though. Shouldn't you go consult another poll that reflects your opinion since you can't do much else?
No he wasn't.
Why would Democrats support Reagan because of Ted Kennedy?
C'mon pard - that was dumb even by your own lacking standards...
Ted Kennedy ran for the Democratic Nomination in 1980. Which is why I said maybe he was talking about Ted. I wasn't sure and I even said so.
You even trying to call someone dumb is hilarious though. Shouldn't you go consult another poll that reflects your opinion since you can't do much else?
It was Johnson who signed the civil rights act, not Kennedy.
I think he was talking about Ted, not John.
No he wasn't.
Why would Democrats support Reagan because of Ted Kennedy?
C'mon pard - that was dumb even by your own lacking standards...
No he wasn't.
Why would Democrats support Reagan because of Ted Kennedy?
C'mon pard - that was dumb even by your own lacking standards...
Ted Kennedy ran for the Democratic Nomination in 1980. Which is why I said maybe he was talking about Ted. I wasn't sure and I even said so.
You even trying to call someone dumb is hilarious though. Shouldn't you go consult another poll that reflects your opinion since you can't do much else?
But voters never had to choose between Ted Kennedy and Ronald Reagan for President.
Good Lord man - keep showing the world your boundless ignorance!!!!
No he wasn't.
Why would Democrats support Reagan because of Ted Kennedy?
C'mon pard - that was dumb even by your own lacking standards...
Ted Kennedy ran for the Democratic Nomination in 1980. Which is why I said maybe he was talking about Ted. I wasn't sure and I even said so.
You even trying to call someone dumb is hilarious though. Shouldn't you go consult another poll that reflects your opinion since you can't do much else?