SHOCK Poll: 51% of U.S. Muslims Want Sharia Law - 25% Okay With Violence Against Infidels

"sometimes acceptable"...if someone was outside of your Church, yelling at little old ladies, and saying you all need to be deported because you're all Christians, he'd deserve an ass kicking. And if you didn't do it, you're a pussy.

That's acceptale to me[sic]

Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

This is a symptom of what is OKA: Delusion.

Delusion is a form of psychosis, wherein an idiosyncratic belief or impression if formed, that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument. Such typically presents as a symptom of mental disorder. In this case the disorder is OKA: Relativism.

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's cultural, societal, historical and personal context and, as such, can never be the result of soundly reasoned absolutes.

It is through this perversion of reason; wherein relativism axiomatically rejects the very existence of objectivity; which is essential to truth, that we find that such precludes the means for Left-think to serve justice.

With truth being essential to trust and, both: truth and trust being critical to the establishment of a soundly reasoned morality and, because a soundly reasoned morality is essential to Justice... it becomes clear to reasonable people, that Relativism can never serve justice.

The fantasies, noted above, demonstrate a strain of the perverse reasoning which must inevitably preclude the Leftist from ever serving Justice.
 
"sometimes acceptable"...if someone was outside of your Church, yelling at little old ladies, and saying you all need to be deported because you're all Christians, he'd deserve an ass kicking. And if you didn't do it, you're a pussy.

That's acceptale to me[sic]

Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

This is a symptom of what is OKA: Delusion.

Delusion is a form of psychosis, wherein an idiosyncratic belief or impression if formed, that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument. Such typically presents as a symptom of mental disorder. In this case the disorder is OKA: Relativism.

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's cultural, societal, historical and personal context and, as such, can never be the result of soundly reasoned absolutes.

It is through this perversion of reason; wherein relativism axiomatically rejects the very existence of objectivity; which is essential to truth, that we find that such precludes the means for Left-think to serve justice.

With truth being essential to trust and, both: truth and trust being critical to the establishment of a soundly reasoned morality and, because a soundly reasoned morality is essential to Justice... it becomes clear to reasonable people, that Relativism can never serve justice.

The fantasies, noted above, demonstrate a strain of the perverse reasoning which must inevitably preclude the Leftist from ever serving Justice.
I have never, nor am I know, apologizing for violence perpetrated by religious or political extremists
 
Hey Ass wipes........here is another question from that poll you ignored or didn't comprehend. The queston was what does "Jihad" mean. The vast majority answered with:

"MUSLIMS' PEACEFUL, PERSONAL STRUGGLE TO BE MORE
RELIGIOUS"
 
Oh! Now THAT is a lovely means to concede right there.
Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.
Oh right...you're the guy who gets all stately, and accepts imaginary concessions

That's what he uses instead of what the rest of us call "links".
I'm wndering why they think altering the question to disclude the word "sometimes" means nothing?
It doesn't mean "never," numskull, and that's the only acceptable answer in a civilized society.
"sometimes acceptable"...if someone was outside of your Church, yelling at little old ladies, and saying you all need to be deported because you're all Christians, he'd deserve an ass kicking. And if you didn't do it, you're a pussy.

That's acceptale to me

IF you did do it, you're a thug and a barbarian. Your kind deserves to be locked up and deported. That's precisely why we don't need Muslims in this country.
 
Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

Actually it's only you retards who purport to speak for Islam at all. "Quran says this". "Muslims do that".
Finger Boy here actually tried to tell us honor killing is an Islamic thing. I killed it. Honorably. He tried to tell us what Islam IS; I schooled his ass on what it ISN'T.

Bottom line, no you don't get to just make shit up out of nothing, and when you attempt to, you'll get called on it.

Deal with it.
 
Hey Ass wipes........here is another question from that poll you ignored or didn't comprehend. The queston was what does "Jihad" mean. The vast majority answered with:

"MUSLIMS' PEACEFUL, PERSONAL STRUGGLE TO BE MORE
RELIGIOUS"

Bullshit. That's Muslim propaganda.


a. What does “jihad” mean?

Jihad literally translates as “struggle.” Strictly speaking, jihad does not mean “holy war” as Muslim apologists often point out. However, the question remains as to what sort of “struggle” is meant: an inner, spiritual struggle against the passions, or an outward, physical struggle.

As in any case of trying to determine Islamic teaching on a particular matter, one must look to the Quran and the Sunnah. From those sources (see above) it is evident that a Muslim is required to struggle against a variety of things: laziness in prayer, neglecting to give zakat (alms), etc. But is it also plain that a Muslim is commanded to struggle in physical combat against the infidel as well. Muhammad’s impressive military career attests to the central role that military action plays in Islam.

b. Hasan Al-Banna on jihad

Below are excerpts from Hasan Al-Banna’s treatise, Jihad. In 1928, Al-Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood, which today is the most powerful organization in Egypt after the government itself. In this treatise, Al-Banna cogently argues that Muslims must take up arms against unbelievers. As he says, “The verses of the Qur’an and the Sunnah summon people in general (with the most eloquent expression and the clearest exposition) to jihad, to warfare, to the armed forces, and all means of land and sea fighting.”

All Muslims Must Make JihadJihad is an obligation from Allah on every Muslim and cannot be ignored nor evaded. Allah has ascribed great importance to jihad and has made the reward of the martyrs and the fighters in His way a splendid one. Only those who have acted similarly and who have modeled themselves upon the martyrs in their performance of jihad can join them in this reward. Furthermore, Allah has specifically honoured the Mujahideen {those who wage jihad} with certain exceptional qualities, both spiritual and practical, to benefit them in this world and the next. Their pure blood is a symbol of victory in this world and the mark of success and felicity in the world to come.

Those who can only find excuses, however, have been warned of extremely dreadful punishments and Allah has described them with the most unfortunate of names. He has reprimanded them for their cowardice and lack of spirit, and castigated them for their weakness and truancy. In this world, they will be surrounded by dishonour and in the next they will be surrounded by the fire from which they shall not escape though they may possess much wealth. The weaknesses of abstention and evasion of jihad are regarded by Allah as one of the major sins, and one of the seven sins that guarantee failure.

Islam is concerned with the question of jihad and the drafting and the mobilisation of the entire Umma {the global Muslim community} into one body to defend the right cause with all its strength than any other ancient or modern system of living, whether religious or civil. The verses of the Qur’an and the Sunnah of Muhammad (PBUH {Peace Be Unto Him}) are overflowing with all these noble ideals and they summon people in general (with the most eloquent expression and the clearest exposition) to jihad, to warfare, to the armed forces, and all means of land and sea fighting.

Here Al-Banna offers citations from the Quran and the reliable hadiths that demonstrate the necessity of combat for Muslims. The citations are comparable to those included in Islam 101 section 1b and are here omitted.

The Scholars on JihadI have just presented to you some verses from the Qur’an and the Noble Ahadith concerning the importance of jihad. Now I would like to present to you some of the opinions from jurisprudence of the Islamic Schools of Thought including some latter day authorities regarding the rules of jihad and the necessity for preparedness. From this we will come to realise how far the ummah has deviated in its practice of Islam as can be seen from the consensus of its scholars on the question of jihad.

The author of the ‘Majma’ al-Anhar fi Sharh Multaqal-Abhar’, in describing the rules of jihad according to the Hanafi School, said: ‘Jihad linguistically means to exert one’s utmost effort in word and action; in the Sharee’ah {Sharia — Islamic law} it is the fighting of the unbelievers, and involves all possible efforts that are necessary to dismantle the power of the enemies of Islam including beating them, plundering their wealth, destroying their places of worship and smashing their idols. This means that jihad is to strive to the utmost to ensure the strength of Islam by such means as fighting those who fight you and the dhimmies {non-Muslims living under Islamic rule} (if they violate any of the terms of the treaty) and the apostates (who are the worst of unbelievers, for they disbelieved after they have affirmed their belief).

It is fard (obligatory) on us to fight with the enemies. The Imam must send a military expedition to the Dar-al-Harb {House of War — the non-Muslim world} every year at least once or twice, and the people must support him in this. If some of the people fulfill the obligation, the remainder are released from the obligation. If this fard kifayah (communal obligation) cannot be fulfilled by that group, then the responsibility lies with the closest adjacent group, and then the closest after that etc., and if the fard kifayah cannot be fulfilled except by all the people, it then becomes a fard ‘ayn (individual obligation), like prayer on everyone of the people.

The scholarly people are of one opinion on this matter as should be evident and this is irrespective of whether these scholars were Mujtahideen or Muqalideen and it is irrespective of whether these scholars were salaf (early) or khalaf (late). They all agreed unanimously that jihad is a fard kifayah imposed upon the Islamic ummah in order to spread the Da’wah of Islam, and that jihad is a fard ‘ayn if an enemy attacks Muslim lands. Today, my brother, the Muslims as you know are forced to be subservient before others and are ruled by disbelievers. Our lands have been besieged, and our hurruma’at (personal possessions, respect, honour, dignity and privacy) violated. Our enemies are overlooking our affairs, and the rites of our din are under their jurisdiction. Yet still the Muslims fail to fulfill the responsibility of Da’wah that is on their shoulders. Hence in this situation it becomes the duty of each and every Muslim to make jihad. He should prepare himself mentally and physically such that when comes the decision of Allah, he will be ready.

I should not finish this discussion without mentioning to you that the Muslims, throughout every period of their history (before the present period of oppression in which their dignity has been lost) have never abandoned jihad nor did they ever become negligent in its performance, not even their religious authorities, mystics, craftsmen, etc. They were all always ready and prepared. For example, Abdullah ibn al Mubarak, a very learned and pious man, was a volunteer in jihad for most of his life, and ‘Abdulwahid bin Zayd, a sufi and a devout man, was the same. And in his time, Shaqiq al Balkhi, the shaykh of the sufis encouraged his pupils towards jihad.

Associated Matters Concerning Jihad

Many Muslims today mistakenly believe that fighting the enemy is jihad asghar (a lesser jihad) and that fighting one’s ego is jihad akbar (a greater jihad). The following narration [athar] is quoted as proof: “We have returned from the lesser jihad to embark on the greater jihad.” They said: “What is the greater jihad?” He said: “The jihad of the heart, or the jihad against one’s ego.”

This narration is used by some to lessen the importance of fighting, to discourage any preparation for combat, and to deter any offering of jihad in Allah’s way. This narration is not a saheeh (sound) tradition: The prominent muhaddith Al Hafiz ibn Hajar al-Asqalani said in the Tasdid al-Qaws:

‘It is well known and often repeated, and was a saying of Ibrahim ibn ‘Abla.’

Al Hafiz Al Iraqi said in the Takhrij Ahadith al-Ahya’:

‘Al Bayhaqi transmitted it with a weak chain of narrators on the authority of Jabir, and Al Khatib transmitted it in his history on the authority of Jabir.’

Nevertheless, even if it were a sound tradition, it would never warrant abandoning jihad or preparing for it in order to rescue the territories of the Muslims and repel the attacks of the disbelievers. Let it be known that this narration simply emphasises the importance of struggling against one’s ego so that Allah will be the sole purpose of everyone of our actions.

Other associated matters concerning jihad include commanding the good and forbidding the evil. It is said in the Hadeeth: “One of the greatest forms of jihad is to utter a word of truth in the presence of a tyrannical ruler.” But nothing compares to the honour of shahadah kubra (the supreme martyrdom) or the reward that is waiting for the Mujahideen.

Epilogue

My brothers! The ummah that knows how to die a noble and honourable death is granted an exalted life in this world and eternal felicity in the next. Degradation and dishonour are the results of the love of this world and the fear of death. Therefore prepare for jihad and be the lovers of death. Life itself shall come searching after you.

My brothers, you should know that one day you will face death and this ominous event can only occur once. If you suffer on this occasion in the way of Allah, it will be to your benefit in this world and your reward in the next. And remember brother that nothing can happen without the Will of Allah: ponder well what Allah, the Blessed, the Almighty, has said:

‘Then after the distress, He sent down security for you. Slumber overtook a party of you, while another party was thinking about themselves (as to how to save themselves, ignoring the others and the Prophet) and thought wrongly of Allah – the thought of ignorance. They said, “Have we any part in the affair?” Say you (O Muhammad): “Indeed the affair belongs wholly to Allah.” They hide within themselves what they dare not reveal to you, saying: “If we had anything to do with the affair, none of us would have been killed here.” Say: “Even if you had remained in your homes, those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death: but that Allah might test what is in your hearts; and to purify that which was in your hearts (sins), and Allah is All-Knower of what is in (your) hearts.”‘ {Sura 3:154}
 
Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

Actually it's only you retards who purport to speak for Islam at all. "Quran says this". "Muslims do that".
Finger Boy here actually tried to tell us honor killing is an Islamic thing. I killed it. Honorably. He tried to tell us what Islam IS; I schooled his ass on what it ISN'T.

Bottom line, no you don't get to just make shit up out of nothing, and when you attempt to, you'll get called on it.

Deal with it.

You have a vivid imagination. You killed nothing. The bottom line is that Muslims practice honor killings. Whether other cultures do it is irrelevant.
 
OP- That's talking about Sharia Law being used in Mosques when NOT contravening the constitution, as is already done, and I'm guessing christians would be about the same on violence. ZZZZZZZZZ- but of course the hate/bs/misinformation Pub propaganda machine carries on. A disgrace.

The OP is a complete load of bullshit based on a partisan push-poll by a froth-at-the-mouth right wing wackaloon group. That's been pointed out here several times. The entire premise is bullshit.

There's absolutely no evidence that the poll is any more flawed than one published by NBC.
It's not the poll, it's the twisted opinion/bs propaganda/hate of the RW website. For hater dupes only.
 
Westboro are not Christians.

True.....but they call themselves "Christians' (Baptists).......

Notice the similarities between what you wrote above and when a Muslim openly states that terrorists are NOT Islamists?
notice how the non christian westboro are like 5 members strong and all from the same family, not a few million strong and members of different factions?
 
Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

Actually it's only you retards who purport to speak for Islam at all. "Quran says this". "Muslims do that".
Finger Boy here actually tried to tell us honor killing is an Islamic thing. I killed it. Honorably. He tried to tell us what Islam IS; I schooled his ass on what it ISN'T.

Bottom line, no you don't get to just make shit up out of nothing, and when you attempt to, you'll get called on it.

Deal with it.

You have a vivid imagination. You killed nothing. The bottom line is that Muslims practice honor killings. Whether other cultures do it is irrelevant.
You assume all muslims do this, the majority don't.
 
Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

Actually it's only you retards who purport to speak for Islam at all. "Quran says this". "Muslims do that".
Finger Boy here actually tried to tell us honor killing is an Islamic thing. I killed it. Honorably. He tried to tell us what Islam IS; I schooled his ass on what it ISN'T.

Bottom line, no you don't get to just make shit up out of nothing, and when you attempt to, you'll get called on it.

Deal with it.

You have a vivid imagination. You killed nothing. The bottom line is that Muslims practice honor killings. Whether other cultures do it is irrelevant.
You assume all muslims do this, the majority don't.

Enough of them do.
 
what's the problem?


I guess if you feel that assimilation into a host country is not important. Then your right. It's also a sign that they do not appreciate being here. While they like the job opportunities and that people leave them alone, they would like to see America changed if they had their way . Shariah is. Pretty barbaric 14th century stuff. Maybe we should make the U.S. a Muslim majority country? Would that still be no problem?
please. there are plenty of communities that don't assimilate and you have no problem with them. i also have no problem with someone choosing to live by a set of rules.
and the poll contradicts the idea that they want the country changed.
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And do notice how the women are dressed eh?


Yow!!! Non-assimilating terroristas!!

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Head scarves!! RUN!! And she's wielding a weapon!
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Cretins are such cat toys.

Where do they stone the adulterers?


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Do you realize, this would be a death sentence! they would be stoned!
Ahhh well, they were already stoned, but you know what I mean.
 
Hey Ass wipes........here is another question from that poll you ignored or didn't comprehend. The queston was what does "Jihad" mean. The vast majority answered with:

"MUSLIMS' PEACEFUL, PERSONAL STRUGGLE TO BE MORE
RELIGIOUS"

Bullshit. That's Muslim propaganda.


a. What does “jihad” mean?

Jihad literally translates as “struggle.” Strictly speaking, jihad does not mean “holy war” as Muslim apologists often point out. However, the question remains as to what sort of “struggle” is meant: an inner, spiritual struggle against the passions, or an outward, physical struggle.

As in any case of trying to determine Islamic teaching on a particular matter, one must look to the Quran and the Sunnah. From those sources (see above) it is evident that a Muslim is required to struggle against a variety of things: laziness in prayer, neglecting to give zakat (alms), etc. But is it also plain that a Muslim is commanded to struggle in physical combat against the infidel as well. Muhammad’s impressive military career attests to the central role that military action plays in Islam.

b. Hasan Al-Banna on jihad

Below are excerpts from Hasan Al-Banna’s treatise, Jihad. In 1928, Al-Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood, which today is the most powerful organization in Egypt after the government itself. In this treatise, Al-Banna cogently argues that Muslims must take up arms against unbelievers. As he says, “The verses of the Qur’an and the Sunnah summon people in general (with the most eloquent expression and the clearest exposition) to jihad, to warfare, to the armed forces, and all means of land and sea fighting.”

All Muslims Must Make JihadJihad is an obligation from Allah on every Muslim and cannot be ignored nor evaded. Allah has ascribed great importance to jihad and has made the reward of the martyrs and the fighters in His way a splendid one. Only those who have acted similarly and who have modeled themselves upon the martyrs in their performance of jihad can join them in this reward. Furthermore, Allah has specifically honoured the Mujahideen {those who wage jihad} with certain exceptional qualities, both spiritual and practical, to benefit them in this world and the next. Their pure blood is a symbol of victory in this world and the mark of success and felicity in the world to come.

Those who can only find excuses, however, have been warned of extremely dreadful punishments and Allah has described them with the most unfortunate of names. He has reprimanded them for their cowardice and lack of spirit, and castigated them for their weakness and truancy. In this world, they will be surrounded by dishonour and in the next they will be surrounded by the fire from which they shall not escape though they may possess much wealth. The weaknesses of abstention and evasion of jihad are regarded by Allah as one of the major sins, and one of the seven sins that guarantee failure.

Islam is concerned with the question of jihad and the drafting and the mobilisation of the entire Umma {the global Muslim community} into one body to defend the right cause with all its strength than any other ancient or modern system of living, whether religious or civil. The verses of the Qur’an and the Sunnah of Muhammad (PBUH {Peace Be Unto Him}) are overflowing with all these noble ideals and they summon people in general (with the most eloquent expression and the clearest exposition) to jihad, to warfare, to the armed forces, and all means of land and sea fighting.

Here Al-Banna offers citations from the Quran and the reliable hadiths that demonstrate the necessity of combat for Muslims. The citations are comparable to those included in Islam 101 section 1b and are here omitted.

The Scholars on JihadI have just presented to you some verses from the Qur’an and the Noble Ahadith concerning the importance of jihad. Now I would like to present to you some of the opinions from jurisprudence of the Islamic Schools of Thought including some latter day authorities regarding the rules of jihad and the necessity for preparedness. From this we will come to realise how far the ummah has deviated in its practice of Islam as can be seen from the consensus of its scholars on the question of jihad.

The author of the ‘Majma’ al-Anhar fi Sharh Multaqal-Abhar’, in describing the rules of jihad according to the Hanafi School, said: ‘Jihad linguistically means to exert one’s utmost effort in word and action; in the Sharee’ah {Sharia — Islamic law} it is the fighting of the unbelievers, and involves all possible efforts that are necessary to dismantle the power of the enemies of Islam including beating them, plundering their wealth, destroying their places of worship and smashing their idols. This means that jihad is to strive to the utmost to ensure the strength of Islam by such means as fighting those who fight you and the dhimmies {non-Muslims living under Islamic rule} (if they violate any of the terms of the treaty) and the apostates (who are the worst of unbelievers, for they disbelieved after they have affirmed their belief).

It is fard (obligatory) on us to fight with the enemies. The Imam must send a military expedition to the Dar-al-Harb {House of War — the non-Muslim world} every year at least once or twice, and the people must support him in this. If some of the people fulfill the obligation, the remainder are released from the obligation. If this fard kifayah (communal obligation) cannot be fulfilled by that group, then the responsibility lies with the closest adjacent group, and then the closest after that etc., and if the fard kifayah cannot be fulfilled except by all the people, it then becomes a fard ‘ayn (individual obligation), like prayer on everyone of the people.

The scholarly people are of one opinion on this matter as should be evident and this is irrespective of whether these scholars were Mujtahideen or Muqalideen and it is irrespective of whether these scholars were salaf (early) or khalaf (late). They all agreed unanimously that jihad is a fard kifayah imposed upon the Islamic ummah in order to spread the Da’wah of Islam, and that jihad is a fard ‘ayn if an enemy attacks Muslim lands. Today, my brother, the Muslims as you know are forced to be subservient before others and are ruled by disbelievers. Our lands have been besieged, and our hurruma’at (personal possessions, respect, honour, dignity and privacy) violated. Our enemies are overlooking our affairs, and the rites of our din are under their jurisdiction. Yet still the Muslims fail to fulfill the responsibility of Da’wah that is on their shoulders. Hence in this situation it becomes the duty of each and every Muslim to make jihad. He should prepare himself mentally and physically such that when comes the decision of Allah, he will be ready.

I should not finish this discussion without mentioning to you that the Muslims, throughout every period of their history (before the present period of oppression in which their dignity has been lost) have never abandoned jihad nor did they ever become negligent in its performance, not even their religious authorities, mystics, craftsmen, etc. They were all always ready and prepared. For example, Abdullah ibn al Mubarak, a very learned and pious man, was a volunteer in jihad for most of his life, and ‘Abdulwahid bin Zayd, a sufi and a devout man, was the same. And in his time, Shaqiq al Balkhi, the shaykh of the sufis encouraged his pupils towards jihad.

Associated Matters Concerning Jihad

Many Muslims today mistakenly believe that fighting the enemy is jihad asghar (a lesser jihad) and that fighting one’s ego is jihad akbar (a greater jihad). The following narration [athar] is quoted as proof: “We have returned from the lesser jihad to embark on the greater jihad.” They said: “What is the greater jihad?” He said: “The jihad of the heart, or the jihad against one’s ego.”

This narration is used by some to lessen the importance of fighting, to discourage any preparation for combat, and to deter any offering of jihad in Allah’s way. This narration is not a saheeh (sound) tradition: The prominent muhaddith Al Hafiz ibn Hajar al-Asqalani said in the Tasdid al-Qaws:

‘It is well known and often repeated, and was a saying of Ibrahim ibn ‘Abla.’

Al Hafiz Al Iraqi said in the Takhrij Ahadith al-Ahya’:

‘Al Bayhaqi transmitted it with a weak chain of narrators on the authority of Jabir, and Al Khatib transmitted it in his history on the authority of Jabir.’

Nevertheless, even if it were a sound tradition, it would never warrant abandoning jihad or preparing for it in order to rescue the territories of the Muslims and repel the attacks of the disbelievers. Let it be known that this narration simply emphasises the importance of struggling against one’s ego so that Allah will be the sole purpose of everyone of our actions.

Other associated matters concerning jihad include commanding the good and forbidding the evil. It is said in the Hadeeth: “One of the greatest forms of jihad is to utter a word of truth in the presence of a tyrannical ruler.” But nothing compares to the honour of shahadah kubra (the supreme martyrdom) or the reward that is waiting for the Mujahideen.

Epilogue

My brothers! The ummah that knows how to die a noble and honourable death is granted an exalted life in this world and eternal felicity in the next. Degradation and dishonour are the results of the love of this world and the fear of death. Therefore prepare for jihad and be the lovers of death. Life itself shall come searching after you.

My brothers, you should know that one day you will face death and this ominous event can only occur once. If you suffer on this occasion in the way of Allah, it will be to your benefit in this world and your reward in the next. And remember brother that nothing can happen without the Will of Allah: ponder well what Allah, the Blessed, the Almighty, has said:

‘Then after the distress, He sent down security for you. Slumber overtook a party of you, while another party was thinking about themselves (as to how to save themselves, ignoring the others and the Prophet) and thought wrongly of Allah – the thought of ignorance. They said, “Have we any part in the affair?” Say you (O Muhammad): “Indeed the affair belongs wholly to Allah.” They hide within themselves what they dare not reveal to you, saying: “If we had anything to do with the affair, none of us would have been killed here.” Say: “Even if you had remained in your homes, those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death: but that Allah might test what is in your hearts; and to purify that which was in your hearts (sins), and Allah is All-Knower of what is in (your) hearts.”‘ {Sura 3:154}
It's not bullshit you dolt.

It's the exact answer the poll included.

Where do you think I got it?

Did you even go through the poll questions provided by that link I posted? Or are you still sticking to how Breitbart rephrased them?
 
Westboro are not Christians.

True.....but they call themselves "Christians' (Baptists).......

Notice the similarities between what you wrote above and when a Muslim openly states that terrorists are NOT Islamists?
notice how the non christian westboro are like 5 members strong and all from the same family, not a few million strong and members of different factions?
One of the ways religious and political extremists can sell their repulsive policies to would-be converts is taking advantage of isolation.

Pakistani college students were polled about George Bush a few years back, and most of them said he was evil, and caused 911 to justify invading Muslim countries. The reason they said that is because their media and mosques tell them that.

Reading western media for Pakistani college students makes them about as popular as an American college student would be if they started talking about stuff they got from an ISIS web site. So it's not like they have experiences that would provide them with a balanced argument to make the right decision.

Here is the US, we know what ISIS is saying, and we know what "the west" is saying. So here we wind up with fewer Christian extremists, than Muslim countries wind up with Muslim extremists. We're fortunate to live in the greatest country in the world.

So while Muslim extremism is horrible, and should be snuffed out...you can't leap to the foregone conclusion that Muslims, as human beings, are less reasonable than we are. The first step to solving this problem is approaching and educating them. That's made more difficult when you drop bombs on them first
 
Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

Actually it's only you retards who purport to speak for Islam at all. "Quran says this". "Muslims do that".
Finger Boy here actually tried to tell us honor killing is an Islamic thing. I killed it. Honorably. He tried to tell us what Islam IS; I schooled his ass on what it ISN'T.

Bottom line, no you don't get to just make shit up out of nothing, and when you attempt to, you'll get called on it.

Deal with it.

You have a vivid imagination. You killed nothing. The bottom line is that Muslims practice honor killings. Whether other cultures do it is irrelevant.

It's "irrelevant" because it shoots the tires out of your clown car fake point?
Gonna throw another tantrum now?

As I said -- you posted a blatant fallacy, I killed it. Kablooie.
I'd have it stuffed and hang it on the mantle, but it wasn't exactly a challenge.
 
Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

Actually it's only you retards who purport to speak for Islam at all. "Quran says this". "Muslims do that".
Finger Boy here actually tried to tell us honor killing is an Islamic thing. I killed it. Honorably. He tried to tell us what Islam IS; I schooled his ass on what it ISN'T.

Bottom line, no you don't get to just make shit up out of nothing, and when you attempt to, you'll get called on it.

Deal with it.

You have a vivid imagination. You killed nothing. The bottom line is that Muslims practice honor killings. Whether other cultures do it is irrelevant.

It's "irrelevant" because it shoots the tires out of your clown car fake point?
Gonna throw another tantrum now?

As I said -- you posted a blatant fallacy, I killed it. Kablooie.
I'd have it stuffed and hang it on the mantle, but it wasn't exactly a challenge.

Anyone reading this thread would conclude that you're the one having the hissy fits.

You killed nothing. You always claim victory when there isn't a shred of evidence to support it.
 
Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

Actually it's only you retards who purport to speak for Islam at all. "Quran says this". "Muslims do that".
Finger Boy here actually tried to tell us honor killing is an Islamic thing. I killed it. Honorably. He tried to tell us what Islam IS; I schooled his ass on what it ISN'T.

Bottom line, no you don't get to just make shit up out of nothing, and when you attempt to, you'll get called on it.

Deal with it.

You have a vivid imagination. You killed nothing. The bottom line is that Muslims practice honor killings. Whether other cultures do it is irrelevant.

It's "irrelevant" because it shoots the tires out of your clown car fake point?
Gonna throw another tantrum now?

As I said -- you posted a blatant fallacy, I killed it. Kablooie.
I'd have it stuffed and hang it on the mantle, but it wasn't exactly a challenge.
What you did......

.....was post a 3rd hand interpretation of the polling data, and then continue to try and reverse engineer your Islamiphobia into a 4th hand interpretation ( I use the term interpretation loosely) used to justify all manner of unsupported conclusions.

Beating up on you is pointless unless you're willing to understand the data you've posted. You deserve to get beaten up intellectually if you continue to regurgitate 4th hand spin that suits what you want to be true, as opposed to reality
 
Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

Actually it's only you retards who purport to speak for Islam at all. "Quran says this". "Muslims do that".
Finger Boy here actually tried to tell us honor killing is an Islamic thing. I killed it. Honorably. He tried to tell us what Islam IS; I schooled his ass on what it ISN'T.

Bottom line, no you don't get to just make shit up out of nothing, and when you attempt to, you'll get called on it.

Deal with it.

You have a vivid imagination. You killed nothing. The bottom line is that Muslims practice honor killings. Whether other cultures do it is irrelevant.

It's "irrelevant" because it shoots the tires out of your clown car fake point?
Gonna throw another tantrum now?

As I said -- you posted a blatant fallacy, I killed it. Kablooie.
I'd have it stuffed and hang it on the mantle, but it wasn't exactly a challenge.
What you did......

.....was post a 3rd hand interpretation of the polling data, and then continue to try and reverse engineer your Islamiphobia into a 4th hand interpretation ( I use the term interpretation loosely) used to justify all manner of unsupported conclusions.

Beating up on you is pointless unless you're willing to understand the data you've posted. You deserve to get beaten up intellectually if you continue to regurgitate 4th hand spin that suits what you want to be true, as opposed to reality

???

I didn't post any polling data. I don't have Islamophobia either.
I'm lost.
 
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Isn't it marvelous how when the Islam Apologists of the Left can't defend Islam, they never fail to launch into all manner of absurd, fanciful projections.

Actually it's only you retards who purport to speak for Islam at all. "Quran says this". "Muslims do that".
Finger Boy here actually tried to tell us honor killing is an Islamic thing. I killed it. Honorably. He tried to tell us what Islam IS; I schooled his ass on what it ISN'T.

Bottom line, no you don't get to just make shit up out of nothing, and when you attempt to, you'll get called on it.

Deal with it.

You have a vivid imagination. You killed nothing. The bottom line is that Muslims practice honor killings. Whether other cultures do it is irrelevant.

It's "irrelevant" because it shoots the tires out of your clown car fake point?
Gonna throw another tantrum now?

As I said -- you posted a blatant fallacy, I killed it. Kablooie.
I'd have it stuffed and hang it on the mantle, but it wasn't exactly a challenge.

Anyone reading this thread would conclude that you're the one having the hissy fits.

You killed nothing. You always claim victory when there isn't a shred of evidence to support it.

Not a "shred", no. Myriad historical examples, an explanation of its roots and purposes, noting and demonstrating that none of them relate in any way to religion, a quick look at how linear time works and a supporting link from a professor of religion, from what I recall off the top of my head -- all of which destroy your fallacy and all of which you ignored as inconvenient.

Done it before, will do it again. See, unfortunately going :lalala: doesn't make it go away. It just keeps you ignorant.
 

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