Seven Samurai vs. Magnificent Seven, why the Mag Seven fails in it's concept...

[2aguy]

The night of October 25, 1881, Virgil Earp, John Behan, Ike Clanton and Doc Holliday played five hours of cards and drank and smoked. John Behan, the Deputy Sheriff that had been chosen to replace Wyatt Earp when he resigned November 9, 1880, was not a fan of the Earps. Least of all because he brought Josephine down to Tombstone and she left him for Wyatt Earp. The Earps and Doc Holliday did not like either Behan or Ike Clanton. No one knows what was said at the table. However, on August 13 Old Man Clanton was killed in the Guadalupe Canyon Massacre and rumors circulated Wyatt and Doc Holliday had been involved. He wasn’t but it is highly possible Doc Holliday played that for all it was worth. This is important because Doc Holliday was accused of being involved in a stage coach robbery and the only living witness at the time was Jim Crane was also killed. There is the theory that the Earps worked at one point with or for the Clantons. At any rate this is a two year ordeal.


Ike Clanton walked out with Virgil Earp and started talking crap about Doc Holliday and how he would fight him anywhere. Virgil, city marshal, tells him he is going to bed and not to wake him with any nonsense. Ike Clanton goes back out and goes all over town saying he is going to kill the Earps and Doc Holliday. At some point he gets a hold of his rifle and a revolver and is in a bar-he was allegedly going to leave town. This is where that reference to his dad comes in to play because this is not normal Ike Clanton behavior and, had there not been so many places he was seen, it would not have been believed. Ike Clanton and Tom McLaury regularly came into town and deposited money in the local bank and did business with the butcher. They immediately checked their guns in and stayed the night in whatever hotel because they had to ride back. They were not arrested at any point during any of their stays.


Morgan goes to tell Virgil Ike has a gun and is threatening to kill him. Virgil, Morgan and Wyatt go to find him but they split up with Wyatt going in one direction. Virgil and Morgan find him first. Virgil buffaloes Ike and his guns are confiscated and they take him to the court recorder and send for the judge. Ike is still talking shit and tells them if he had a six shooter he would kill them right there. Morgan and Wyatt both try to hand him his own gun---which Ike doesn’t take. Ike is informed they have him on record six times threatening to kill them. The judge fines Ike $25. Virgil asks Ike where he wants his guns checked in. Ike tells him wherever he can get it back. That guns are subsequently checked in at Ike’s hotel.

Wyatt walks out and runs into Tom McLaury. He slaps Tom with his left hand and buffaloes him with his right. No one could see if Tom had a weapon. It is possible Wyatt did see it and just wanted him to get out of town. Immediately afterwards Tom checks his gun in at the Capital Saloon. He and Ike take off to meet their brothers at Spangenberg’s gunsmith. Where everyone buys guns……….except Ike. Spangenberg refuses to sell him a gun. The Earps don’t know that at the time and believe everyone is armed.

The Clantons and McLaurys leave the gunsmith and stand in front of Halford’s and everybody does a stare down. They then walk towards the OK Corral stop and talk to each other. A Mr. Sills overhears them talking and goes to find Virgil. Virgil sees John Behan and asks him to get a drink. On the way there a few of the Citizen’s Safety Committee ask Virgil if he needs help. Virgil politely declines.They go to Halford’s and Virgil asks Behan to go with him to disarm them. Behan says no and if the Earps go down there will be trouble. Virgil tells Behan if they stay in the OK Corral there won’t be trouble. You can have your weapons in the livery stables. A guy by the name of William Murry stops Virgil and says he has 25 men that can come ASAP. Behan all of sudden realizes how quick this is about to spiral out of control and goes down to talk to the McLaury and Clanton folks and tells them they need to disarm. Frank McLaury refuses and will only disarm if the Earps disarm. Doc walks out and sees the Earps and they do the walk. Virgil hands Doc his rifle and takes Doc's cane.

Virgil tells them to throw up his hands. Guns are cocked. Two shots are fired almost at the same time. The horses try to bolt. Then more shots are fired. Frank and Billy have been hit but they are not done. Ike, bless his heart, turns around and runs screaming towards Wyatt Earp. Wyatt tells him to fight or go. Ike runs because he is unarmed. He has no gun.

Virgil is ambushed in December as a retaliatory measure and Morgan is murdered in the spring. That is not Chicago by a long shot. This is unusual crap happening. The violence in that area was not happening in Tombstone. It was to the south because……….mofos were stealing cattle from the Mexican ranchers.

Yes......exactly....the gun laws of Tombstone were only followed by law abiding citizens....the criminals obeyed them only when they wanted to....so again, gun control only works on law abiding people....Tombstone showed this...

The bad guys had guns......in violation of the gun laws....exactly as we point out all the time.....

 

[Disir]

The night of October 25, 1881, Virgil Earp, John Behan, Ike Clanton and Doc Holliday played five hours of cards and drank and smoked. John Behan, the Deputy Sheriff that had been chosen to replace Wyatt Earp when he resigned November 9, 1880, was not a fan of the Earps. Least of all because he brought Josephine down to Tombstone and she left him for Wyatt Earp. The Earps and Doc Holliday did not like either Behan or Ike Clanton. No one knows what was said at the table. However, on August 13 Old Man Clanton was killed in the Guadalupe Canyon Massacre and rumors circulated Wyatt and Doc Holliday had been involved. He wasn’t but it is highly possible Doc Holliday played that for all it was worth. This is important because Doc Holliday was accused of being involved in a stage coach robbery and the only living witness at the time was Jim Crane was also killed. There is the theory that the Earps worked at one point with or for the Clantons. At any rate this is a two year ordeal.


Ike Clanton walked out with Virgil Earp and started talking crap about Doc Holliday and how he would fight him anywhere. Virgil, city marshal, tells him he is going to bed and not to wake him with any nonsense. Ike Clanton goes back out and goes all over town saying he is going to kill the Earps and Doc Holliday. At some point he gets a hold of his rifle and a revolver and is in a bar-he was allegedly going to leave town. This is where that reference to his dad comes in to play because this is not normal Ike Clanton behavior and, had there not been so many places he was seen, it would not have been believed. Ike Clanton and Tom McLaury regularly came into town and deposited money in the local bank and did business with the butcher. They immediately checked their guns in and stayed the night in whatever hotel because they had to ride back. They were not arrested at any point during any of their stays.


Morgan goes to tell Virgil Ike has a gun and is threatening to kill him. Virgil, Morgan and Wyatt go to find him but they split up with Wyatt going in one direction. Virgil and Morgan find him first. Virgil buffaloes Ike and his guns are confiscated and they take him to the court recorder and send for the judge. Ike is still talking shit and tells them if he had a six shooter he would kill them right there. Morgan and Wyatt both try to hand him his own gun---which Ike doesn’t take. Ike is informed they have him on record six times threatening to kill them. The judge fines Ike $25. Virgil asks Ike where he wants his guns checked in. Ike tells him wherever he can get it back. That guns are subsequently checked in at Ike’s hotel.

Wyatt walks out and runs into Tom McLaury. He slaps Tom with his left hand and buffaloes him with his right. No one could see if Tom had a weapon. It is possible Wyatt did see it and just wanted him to get out of town. Immediately afterwards Tom checks his gun in at the Capital Saloon. He and Ike take off to meet their brothers at Spangenberg’s gunsmith. Where everyone buys guns……….except Ike. Spangenberg refuses to sell him a gun. The Earps don’t know that at the time and believe everyone is armed.

The Clantons and McLaurys leave the gunsmith and stand in front of Halford’s and everybody does a stare down. They then walk towards the OK Corral stop and talk to each other. A Mr. Sills overhears them talking and goes to find Virgil. Virgil sees John Behan and asks him to get a drink. On the way there a few of the Citizen’s Safety Committee ask Virgil if he needs help. Virgil politely declines.They go to Halford’s and Virgil asks Behan to go with him to disarm them. Behan says no and if the Earps go down there will be trouble. Virgil tells Behan if they stay in the OK Corral there won’t be trouble. You can have your weapons in the livery stables. A guy by the name of William Murry stops Virgil and says he has 25 men that can come ASAP. Behan all of sudden realizes how quick this is about to spiral out of control and goes down to talk to the McLaury and Clanton folks and tells them they need to disarm. Frank McLaury refuses and will only disarm if the Earps disarm. Doc walks out and sees the Earps and they do the walk. Virgil hands Doc his rifle and takes Doc's cane.

Virgil tells them to throw up his hands. Guns are cocked. Two shots are fired almost at the same time. The horses try to bolt. Then more shots are fired. Frank and Billy have been hit but they are not done. Ike, bless his heart, turns around and runs screaming towards Wyatt Earp. Wyatt tells him to fight or go. Ike runs because he is unarmed. He has no gun.

Virgil is ambushed in December as a retaliatory measure and Morgan is murdered in the spring. That is not Chicago by a long shot. This is unusual crap happening. The violence in that area was not happening in Tombstone. It was to the south because……….mofos were stealing cattle from the Mexican ranchers.

Yes......exactly....the gun laws of Tombstone were only followed by law abiding citizens....the criminals obeyed them only when they wanted to....so again, gun control only works on law abiding people....Tombstone showed this...

The bad guys had guns......in violation of the gun laws....exactly as we point out all the time.....

Only if you are pro-Earp. I don't think you understand. There is a very large group that firmly believes the criminals were the Earps and are on the side of the Cow-boys. To this day.........

TombstoneArizona.com - Tombstone Arizona - Home of the most famous cowboy's in the west!

 

[Moonglow]

Wow, inaccurate and trying way too hard.

It controls his every waking moment.... (music rises)....

 

[rightwinger]

Clearly Western sheriff's thought otherwise.

But hey- you are more of an expert on safety in frontier towns than they were.

I showed you actual accounts of gun control in the western town all you guys point at...Tombstone......and how not only did the friend of the Earps ignore it, Doc Holiday, but the various criminals did too.....and they murdered one Earp and Mained another....but keep believing gun control works...just don't drive through the west or south sides of Chicago....

LOL- yeah- because if any guns are ever used in a crime- anywhere- that means gun control doesn't work.

But hey- like I said- you are far more of an expert that Western law enforcement officers were.

Yep......the criminals ignored the laws in Tombstone at will.......and you claim it was a success........you are an idiot...

Easy to tell who the criminals were when they were the ones carrying guns.

The gun laws were essentially to prevent gun fights by drunken cowboys- and it worked admirably for that. Of course then as now- probably more people died from gun accidents than from shootings.

Sorry...again......one Earp was murdered in the gun controlled town, the other Earp was crippled in the gun controlled town, and the best friend of the Earps wore his guns regardless of the rules.....

And you are completely wrong again....from the CDC in 2014 586 people died from accidental gun deaths.....35,000 from accidental car deaths......with 357,000,000 guns in private hands....

nothing you say about guns is even remotely correct....

Actually, it shows what happens when you introduce firearms into a personal dispute

Nobody would remember if the Earp's and Clanton's had a fistfight

 

[2aguy]

I showed you actual accounts of gun control in the western town all you guys point at...Tombstone......and how not only did the friend of the Earps ignore it, Doc Holiday, but the various criminals did too.....and they murdered one Earp and Mained another....but keep believing gun control works...just don't drive through the west or south sides of Chicago....

LOL- yeah- because if any guns are ever used in a crime- anywhere- that means gun control doesn't work.

But hey- like I said- you are far more of an expert that Western law enforcement officers were.

Yep......the criminals ignored the laws in Tombstone at will.......and you claim it was a success........you are an idiot...

Easy to tell who the criminals were when they were the ones carrying guns.

The gun laws were essentially to prevent gun fights by drunken cowboys- and it worked admirably for that. Of course then as now- probably more people died from gun accidents than from shootings.

Sorry...again......one Earp was murdered in the gun controlled town, the other Earp was crippled in the gun controlled town, and the best friend of the Earps wore his guns regardless of the rules.....

And you are completely wrong again....from the CDC in 2014 586 people died from accidental gun deaths.....35,000 from accidental car deaths......with 357,000,000 guns in private hands....

nothing you say about guns is even remotely correct....

Actually, it shows what happens when you introduce firearms into a personal dispute

Nobody would remember if the Earp's and Clanton's had a fistfight

No....it shows that the Clanton's would have simply murdered the Earps with their guns if the Earps didn't have guns.....when you outlaw guns the outlaws will always have them.

 

[rightwinger]

LOL- yeah- because if any guns are ever used in a crime- anywhere- that means gun control doesn't work.

But hey- like I said- you are far more of an expert that Western law enforcement officers were.

Yep......the criminals ignored the laws in Tombstone at will.......and you claim it was a success........you are an idiot...

Easy to tell who the criminals were when they were the ones carrying guns.

The gun laws were essentially to prevent gun fights by drunken cowboys- and it worked admirably for that. Of course then as now- probably more people died from gun accidents than from shootings.

Sorry...again......one Earp was murdered in the gun controlled town, the other Earp was crippled in the gun controlled town, and the best friend of the Earps wore his guns regardless of the rules.....

And you are completely wrong again....from the CDC in 2014 586 people died from accidental gun deaths.....35,000 from accidental car deaths......with 357,000,000 guns in private hands....

nothing you say about guns is even remotely correct....

Actually, it shows what happens when you introduce firearms into a personal dispute

Nobody would remember if the Earp's and Clanton's had a fistfight

No....it shows that the Clanton's would have simply murdered the Earps with their guns if the Earps didn't have guns.....when you outlaw guns the outlaws will always have them.

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

 

[2aguy]

Yep......the criminals ignored the laws in Tombstone at will.......and you claim it was a success........you are an idiot...

Easy to tell who the criminals were when they were the ones carrying guns.

The gun laws were essentially to prevent gun fights by drunken cowboys- and it worked admirably for that. Of course then as now- probably more people died from gun accidents than from shootings.

Sorry...again......one Earp was murdered in the gun controlled town, the other Earp was crippled in the gun controlled town, and the best friend of the Earps wore his guns regardless of the rules.....

And you are completely wrong again....from the CDC in 2014 586 people died from accidental gun deaths.....35,000 from accidental car deaths......with 357,000,000 guns in private hands....

nothing you say about guns is even remotely correct....

Actually, it shows what happens when you introduce firearms into a personal dispute

Nobody would remember if the Earp's and Clanton's had a fistfight

No....it shows that the Clanton's would have simply murdered the Earps with their guns if the Earps didn't have guns.....when you outlaw guns the outlaws will always have them.

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

 

[rightwinger]

Easy to tell who the criminals were when they were the ones carrying guns.

The gun laws were essentially to prevent gun fights by drunken cowboys- and it worked admirably for that. Of course then as now- probably more people died from gun accidents than from shootings.

Sorry...again......one Earp was murdered in the gun controlled town, the other Earp was crippled in the gun controlled town, and the best friend of the Earps wore his guns regardless of the rules.....

And you are completely wrong again....from the CDC in 2014 586 people died from accidental gun deaths.....35,000 from accidental car deaths......with 357,000,000 guns in private hands....

nothing you say about guns is even remotely correct....

Actually, it shows what happens when you introduce firearms into a personal dispute

Nobody would remember if the Earp's and Clanton's had a fistfight

No....it shows that the Clanton's would have simply murdered the Earps with their guns if the Earps didn't have guns.....when you outlaw guns the outlaws will always have them.

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

 

[2aguy]

Sorry...again......one Earp was murdered in the gun controlled town, the other Earp was crippled in the gun controlled town, and the best friend of the Earps wore his guns regardless of the rules.....

And you are completely wrong again....from the CDC in 2014 586 people died from accidental gun deaths.....35,000 from accidental car deaths......with 357,000,000 guns in private hands....

nothing you say about guns is even remotely correct....

Actually, it shows what happens when you introduce firearms into a personal dispute

Nobody would remember if the Earp's and Clanton's had a fistfight

No....it shows that the Clanton's would have simply murdered the Earps with their guns if the Earps didn't have guns.....when you outlaw guns the outlaws will always have them.

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

Nope.....that is the reason guns are so important....even lesser trained people have a chance to survive.....guns are the great equalizer.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, it shows what happens when you introduce firearms into a personal dispute

Nobody would remember if the Earp's and Clanton's had a fistfight

No....it shows that the Clanton's would have simply murdered the Earps with their guns if the Earps didn't have guns.....when you outlaw guns the outlaws will always have them.

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

Nope.....that is the reason guns are so important....even lesser trained people have a chance to survive.....guns are the great equalizer.

Guns turn an ordinary disagreement into a massacre

That is what we learned at the OK Corral

 

[Divine Wind]

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

Better than just the Clanton gang being heavily armed, isn't it?

Tell you what, you guarantee me all criminals are disarmed, and I'll consider giving up a few of my guns.

 

[2aguy]

No....it shows that the Clanton's would have simply murdered the Earps with their guns if the Earps didn't have guns.....when you outlaw guns the outlaws will always have them.

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

Nope.....that is the reason guns are so important....even lesser trained people have a chance to survive.....guns are the great equalizer.

Guns turn an ordinary disagreement into a massacre

That is what we learned at the OK Corral

Nope......actual facts show you are wrong....what you had at the O.K. corral was criminals bent on murdering people.....and fortunately, the victims were armed. Of course, gun control continued to work so well after the gun fight....in the gun controlled town, that one of the Earps was murdered by a gun wielding criminal, and another Earp was crippled by one...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Actually, in the old west there were plenty towns you had to turn your guns in when you got there.

Dodge City and Tombstone were two.

Virgil Earp was the cause of both.

In Tombstone, his act was ruled unconstitutional by Judge Spicer during Virgil and Wyatt's trial for the murder of Billy Clanton, Frank and Tom McLaury.

The Earps were acquitted, but Spicer struck down the prohibition of firearms.

 

[2aguy]

Actually, in the old west there were plenty towns you had to turn your guns in when you got there.

Dodge City and Tombstone were two.

Virgil Earp was the cause of both.

In Tombstone, his act was ruled unconstitutional by Judge Spicer during Virgil and Wyatt's trial for the murder of Billy Clanton, Frank and Tom McLaury.

The Earps were acquitted, but Spicer struck down the prohibition of firearms.

Besides that ...it didn't work anyway....as gun control never does....

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Besides that ...it didn't work anyway....as gun control never does....

Spicer worried that the prohibition could endanger Arizona's bid for statehood. They were still a Territory at the time.

 

[rightwinger]

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

Nope.....that is the reason guns are so important....even lesser trained people have a chance to survive.....guns are the great equalizer.

Guns turn an ordinary disagreement into a massacre

That is what we learned at the OK Corral

Nope......actual facts show you are wrong....what you had at the O.K. corral was criminals bent on murdering people.....and fortunately, the victims were armed. Of course, gun control continued to work so well after the gun fight....in the gun controlled town, that one of the Earps was murdered by a gun wielding criminal, and another Earp was crippled by one...

There were no criminals and good guys like history has recorded. Just two groups with a petty dispute between them. One normally settled with a heated shouting match or fist fight

But thanks to guns entering the equation, a mere dispute escalates into a massacre

Then thankfully, guns were available for the retaliation

 

[Syriusly]

Actually, it shows what happens when you introduce firearms into a personal dispute

Nobody would remember if the Earp's and Clanton's had a fistfight

No....it shows that the Clanton's would have simply murdered the Earps with their guns if the Earps didn't have guns.....when you outlaw guns the outlaws will always have them.

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

Nope.....that is the reason guns are so important....even lesser trained people have a chance to survive.....guns are the great equalizer.

That is why everyone is so safe in Syria.

 

[2aguy]

No....it shows that the Clanton's would have simply murdered the Earps with their guns if the Earps didn't have guns.....when you outlaw guns the outlaws will always have them.

That's right....OK Corral is a justification for both sides being heavily armed

Nothing can go wrong can it?

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

Nope.....that is the reason guns are so important....even lesser trained people have a chance to survive.....guns are the great equalizer.

That is why everyone is so safe in Syria.

small groups of syrians are fighting against a government that had gun control.....the other side is getting guns from outside of the country, had the people had guns in the beginning, they wouldn't have been living in a dicatatorship...

 

[2aguy]

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

Nope.....that is the reason guns are so important....even lesser trained people have a chance to survive.....guns are the great equalizer.

Guns turn an ordinary disagreement into a massacre

That is what we learned at the OK Corral

Nope......actual facts show you are wrong....what you had at the O.K. corral was criminals bent on murdering people.....and fortunately, the victims were armed. Of course, gun control continued to work so well after the gun fight....in the gun controlled town, that one of the Earps was murdered by a gun wielding criminal, and another Earp was crippled by one...

There were no criminals and good guys like history has recorded. Just two groups with a petty dispute between them. One normally settled with a heated shouting match or fist fight

But thanks to guns entering the equation, a mere dispute escalates into a massacre

Then thankfully, guns were available for the retaliation

Nope......they would have gotten guns illegally......just like they do now....and again.....the gun control in Tombstone did nothing to stop criminals from carrying guns....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes...that is actually the case....had only the Clanton's had guns....and they had those guns in violation of the Tombstone gun control laws....the Earps would have been murdered easily......there would have been no fight, and the Earps would be dead....

You of course are siding with murder of unarmed people...no surprise ......

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

Nope.....that is the reason guns are so important....even lesser trained people have a chance to survive.....guns are the great equalizer.

Guns turn an ordinary disagreement into a massacre

That is what we learned at the OK Corral

Nope......actual facts show you are wrong....what you had at the O.K. corral was criminals bent on murdering people.....and fortunately, the victims were armed. Of course, gun control continued to work so well after the gun fight....in the gun controlled town, that one of the Earps was murdered by a gun wielding criminal, and another Earp was crippled by one...

There were no criminals and good guys like history has recorded. Just two groups with a petty dispute between them. One normally settled with a heated shouting match or fist fight

But thanks to guns entering the equation, a mere dispute escalates into a massacre

Then thankfully, guns were available for the retaliation

Holy fuck but you're stupid.

I mean that most sincerely.