CDZ Serious Question: What do you think it's like for DC politicians....

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    I do not know about today as I no longer have an inside track like back in the old days. In the 1980's and early 1990's we golfed together,ate together, played cards together and even worked together on some common goals. Yes, there was some tong and cheek about the goings on around the hill. Today it is not the same. My father is still an elected official and my mother came home from a dinner with the wives realy upset that some had attacked her during lunch. That shit did not happen back in the day.
     
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    One theory I've seen that makes sense is that they all go home on weekends and very rarely interact with each other. Does that sound like it could be an element here?
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    Well said, but again, I ask, isn't a large part of the problem is that we eat up this tawdry scandal stuff?

    You ask a person about Al Franken or Roy Moore, they can give you the blow by blow of who accused who of touching what.

    But you ask them about the details of Tax Reform, and most of them will give you a blank look.

    Trump is just the logical end result of this sort of "Reality TV Politics" that has been going on for at least 25 years now.

    Heck, there's even a TV show about how politicians contend with scandals.

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    We are never going to see the Drama "Serious Policy Discussion".
     
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    You have hit the nail on the head. We want services but do not want to pay for them. Then some politition says here is a way to have the services with out paying for them and the public is told what they want to hear and they vote for them. We should know better and theyt should hav e the balls to tell the truth about it, b ut then they would not win the election. So, ya we have done this to ourselves.
     
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    I met Donna Edwards once while I lived in Maryland. As she came up and asked for my vote, I asked her if she was going to oppose any raising of taxes upon my household while she was representing us. She said she couldn't, and I told her I was in no way in hell going to vote for her...
     
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    I don't want services, as I don't want some political hack telling me what I have to do. If I want roads, then I want a contractor to come out and build me a road that I will gladly pay for. If I want a doctor I will go to him and pay him to keep me well. The problem with establishment political pukes, is that they think THEY are much smarter than me, so they go out of their way, to do things that make my life worse. Then blame someone else when they F#$% it up. 47% of the voting population are too stupid to realize this, which is why the establishment continue to be in office..
     
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    That woman is every bit as incompetent as is Trump.

    I accompanied an acquaintance to a fundraising event for Edwards. Neither of us opened our checkbooks.

    I was just a "plus one" and never was going to make a donation, for I don't live in MD. My lady friend was considering supporting Edwards. She decided then and that she'd have to back a different candidate.
     
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    Um, do you realize how much it costs to make a road?

    How? I'm just curious how you think politicians make your life worse.
     
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    What is like behind the scenes? Don't have to speculate. Lemme tell ya a TRUE story.. 1992 Campaign. Bush 41 v Clinton. Mary Matalin is Bush's campaign mgr, James Carville for Clinton. At the time, I was hiding out in the Dem party having just worked the Tom Lantos for Congress campaign. He was "my guy". Thought like me, he was a TRUE Liberal, not a leftist. (I learned not to "love" Congress people from that experience)

    Anyways --- I'm reading a Reason Mag article about the match-up and there was speculation that Matalin and Carville were shacking up the campaign trail. News breaks a month or so after the election. The 2 star-crossed Romeo/Juliette bad feuding families victims go public. Announce they are "a thing"..

    They get married, buy a spacious country house on a farm, have kids. :ack-1: (Mutants I suspect). And I'm imagining all the laughter and chuckling that went on DURING THE FREAKIN campaign in bed, in the shower, while the nation is struggling with this "serious" decision. I become violently allergic to the 2 party system and declare myself committed to the Libertarian party that year.

    Thought pattern was -- these ULTRA partisans don't take the contest seriously -- why should I ?? It's all fun and games and JOB to them... Sorry if you've heard about my moment of conversion before. But there it is. I went rogue BECAUSE it's largely a game to obtain power. And MY politics is about solutions, ideas, problem solving.
     
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    Once in office, politicians find themselves choosing which club they are going to belong to. Their goals are obviously to obtain a seat on committees that will allow them to send the most "pork" to their constituents.

    Once they've joined the club, they soon realize that their future depends upon playing the game and they end up doing whatever it takes to hold on to their perks - and power.

    And, if so-and-so can get away with it, so can they.

    Oh yeah, and it isn't just males who play the power game for their own satisfaction.
     

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