CDZ Serious question for independents/moderates/centrists, etc.

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  1. Mac1958
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    Here's a serious question for posters here who don't identify with either side of the political spectrum (a limited audience here, but worth a shot):

    It really seems like we've moved beyond "fake news" and have have literally reached a point where there are two separate realities. Listen to a lefty, and they're 100% convinced that the other "side" is in abject meltdown and about to collapse at any moment. Listen to a righty and you get the same. So:

    How are you consuming the news right now? When a media person (either the traditional "press" or a partisan advocate or someone on the internet) says or reports or claims something, do you take it at face value any more, to any degree?

    I've literally reached a point it's impossible for me to trust pretty much any input. And honestly, because I am curious about what's happening around me, that's troubling.

    How about you?
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    I know not to accept anything in the news at face value. Both (all) sides spin facts to make their side look good and the other side look bad. It kind of makes me think of creative resume writing.
     
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    And unfortunately, media sources take sides and don't just present the facts.
     
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    online news, from AP, UPI Reuters, Yahoo
     
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    I research the subject matter and weigh both sides to get tp the truth.

    Too many partisan hacks today and just have to filter the partisan nonsense to find the truth and it is almost impossible!
     
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    I'll listen to Rush or one of the other talkers and watch MSNBC or CNN (and I do this exercise quite a bit) and I'm just stunned by the sheer separation in realities. Not just opinions, but actual realities. It's like informational whiplash, and because the separation is expanding so quickly, it's just getting more difficult to make sense of it.
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    NPR vs Talk Radio can be the most funniest thing to do if it were not sad how polar opposite they are.
     
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    Yeah, it's difficult to form a solid opinion without going through the motions of gathering various data points.

    And now that I think about it ===> there was a time where I could at least identify a few areas in which the two "sides" would be saying or reporting roughly the same thing. At least you could start there.

    But it's just getting tougher and tougher to identify those areas now. Maybe that's what has me so bugged about this.
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    I don't find it hard to tell fact from opinion. If CNN or Fox says "this happened" it probably did happen. Partisan hacks will interpret it differently from there.
     
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    But what I'm seeing is that they're "reporting" two entirely different things. They're "not seeing", evidently, the same things as the other guy. All CNN sees, for example, is material on Trump that they can attack. All Fox sees is what remains, the information that mitigates what CNN sees. And vice versa.

    Bad enough that "news reporting" is so infused with opinion. But now we're only getting smaller pieces of reality, and THEY'RE infused with opinion.

    Or I'm just nuts. I'll go either way on this one.
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