CDZ Congressional apportionment: The hidden agenda behind illegal immigration

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    One of the reasons Blue States support illegal immigration is be cause it gives them extra seats in Congress at the expense of Red States that oppose it. The Constitution provides for representation among the States to be apportioned according to the number of persons living in each state, not the number of citizens. Therefor, each illegal alien living in a state adds that that state's representation in Congress. Isn't that convenient?
     
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    So will the farmers in South Carolina forgo their cheap farm labor?
     
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    While what you say is true, the percentages don't work out mathematically. 12 million illegals in a nation of over 320 million is insignificant since they can't vote. Another factor is that only about 3 million live in the People's Republik of Kalifornia. There rest are spread out across the US with a large chunk of them in Texas....not exactly a "Blue State".

    Congressional Apportionment | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

    U.S. unauthorized immigration population estimates

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    1. There are closer to 50 million illegals residing here
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    2. They do vote.

    In fact, Obama told them to do just that.
     
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    Looking forward to your evidence on both theories.
     
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    1. There are closer to 50 million illegals residing here

    "Looking forward to your evidence on both theories."

    Not theories....facts.

    No prob.....take notes:

    "....using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports.


    Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."
    How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research

    That was 36 million illegal aliens .....ten years ago.
     
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    They do vote.

    "Looking forward to your evidence on both theories."

    Not theories....facts.


    Illegals get driver's licenses that say no voting.....

    Really?

    I say Democrat's who work the polls ignore that blue bar and simply look at the name on the driver's license.

    And guess what?

    "It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
    If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
    .... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
    It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


    Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

    You betcha'!!!!



    California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015

    Illegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
    www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/


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    Now.....what else can I help you with?
     
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    You need to read your own article, PC. "50 million immigrants (legal and illegal)"

    Conclusion
    Using the latest conservative Census Bureau data from 2010 and 2011, the Center for Immigration Studies reports that more than 50 million immigrants (legal and illegal) live in the United States, and that "Absent a change in policy, between 12 and 15 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) will likely settle in the United States in the next decade. And perhaps 30 million new immigrants will arrive in the next 20 years."10

    The magnitude of the numbers of illegal aliens in the United States represents a serious crisis and urgent need for a return to the rule of law and secured borders that the United States Constitution demands.
     
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    Wrong.

    They don't 'apprehend' legal aliens.


    "Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."
    How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research
     
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    PC, the quote is from your own source. If you want to be agree and disagree with Fred's "facts", that's totally up to you.
     

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