Senator Bernie Sanders is crushing the rest of the pack in campaign donations.

[HappyJoy]

I'm not saying the DNC are a bunch of angels, I'm saying Sanders was hypocritical.

The most popular thing he could have done would have been to run as an Independent - which he would have won imo-- In a 5-way race between Sanders, Trump, Clinton, Stein and Johnson, I believe the %'s would have been Bernie 40% ,Trump 25%, Hillary 25% , Johnson 5% and Stein 5%.

Only without the electoral college.

I don't think he would have won. He already lost to Clinton in the primaries. He probably would have pissed off a lot of them and Trump would have ended up with a plurality of votes.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Bernie and Tulsi 2020 ?

Don't be so sure about that. We talk politics at my office and some of the Democrats hate Bernie with a passion. They say he was a sore loser four years ago and they will never support him.

Then the people in your office are idiots. He only campaigned for her after he was eliminated.

I think it was half-hearted at best, he kind of had to if he was ever going to run again.

I really only have one problem with Sanders (actually two, his age) is that he kept claiming Clinton was only winning because of super delegates but then after it was obvious Sanders wasn't going to win whether Clinton had the super delegates locked up or not Sanders tried to convince them to vote for him. Rather hypocritical.

With that said, I'll vote for him if he is the nominee. Last thing we need right now are party or ideological purists, Trump needs to go.

We know that Bernie would rather have Hillary in office than Trump. I think it was genuine. He actually strikes me as one of the most genuine candidates, but that's just my opinion.

The two issues I have with him are his age and I'm afraid that his policies may be too far left and scare independents away.

Would he? I guess, though I'm not so sure he was thrilled with 8 years of Clinton.

I generally consider him to be genuine, just not perfect and unfortunately people are holding out for perfection and when they don't get it Trump becomes president.

I voted for Clinton in the primary because I too thought Sanders was too far left, not so sure of that anymore. I have no idea how to judge 2020 at this moment. Are the Democrats going too far left for moderates? Are there really that many moderates left that it matters and maybe pulling a progressive base together will get you more votes? I have no idea.

Look at the way he talks about Trump and look at the way he talked about Clinton. Totally different.

He ran as a Democrat. His views are more closely aligned with Democrats. He wanted a Democrat to win.

 

[HappyJoy]

Don't be so sure about that. We talk politics at my office and some of the Democrats hate Bernie with a passion. They say he was a sore loser four years ago and they will never support him.

There are Democrats still mad that the DNC cheating still did not get Hillary over the hump.

Here is the issue. They will vote Sanders if he wins, just the same as they voted Obama when he beat her.

Democrats vote Democrats. Those who vote ideas are the ones that will bail.

11% of Americans voted for Johnson or Stein and over 40% didn't even vote in 2016.

Can you really blame them? My dream in 2016 was that there would be a nationwide refusal to vote at all, because our choices BLEW. Really blew. Boy, would that be something, if the Democrats and Republicans threw a party and no one came?

I'm not sure I'd want Jill Stein or that other guy as president either. Clinton was the best choice out of the four.

Poor "What's Aleppo?" Johnson. I tried to figure out what the Libertarian party was all about, but they're so against dictating someone's else's opinion that they haven't got a platform. They sound like right wing anarchists, to me. Pretty close anyway.

To me Libertarianism requires a whole lot of trust in other people, namely corporations to do the right thing. Rarely do corporations make the right moral decisions. They rip people off, pollute and pay as little in taxes as possible.

 

[pknopp]

Bernie Sanders Dominates as Analyses of Fundraising Data Show Vermont Senator With Widespread Support Across Nation

Individual donors to Democratic candidates for the party's 2020 presidential nomination overwhelmingly gave to Sen. Bernie Sanders, according to analyses released Friday.

The New York Times, in a map produced by the paper's reporters, found that Sanders, an Independent from Vermont, dominates most of the country as the primary or secondary recipient of nearly all donations from Americans in all states—though his support is strongest in New England, New York, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, the eastern Great Plains, and the West.

Bernie Sanders Dominates as Analyses of Fundraising Data Show Vermont Senator With Widespread Support Across Nation

Bernie and Tulsi 2020 ?
https://www.facebook.com/BernieTulsi2020/

Nope. Gabbard will never really have a shot at winning or being on a winning ticket, as she and her family are against gay marriage.

No she isn't. If you have a valid position you do not have to lie about it.

Supposedly she abandoned it while serving in the military, but when it comes to politics... once people knew you had a stance on a subject they will not think you suddenly changed your mind.

There is a bit of truth to this but no one cared that Trump held a ton of positions he didn't in the past. Her family was against gay marriage. That is how she was raised. Once out on her own she dismissed those views. Not uncommon.

"For years, Mike Gabbard was staunchly against gay marriage, seeking to prevent what he called the “radical homosexual agenda” from succeeding. In fact, The New Yorker noted that in 1999, when a character on Dawson’s Creek came out as gay, he flew to North Carolina where the show was filmed to protest. A year earlier, in 1998, Mike successfully sought an amendment to Hawaii’s Constitution, allowing the legislature to ban same-sex marriage.

For a time, Tulsi supported her dad’s beliefs, including objecting to the idea of students’ being taught in schools that homosexuality was “natural.” But she later said that after serving in the military, many of her beliefs changed. She told The New Yorker, “Experiencing as a woman, firsthand, the impacts of countries that are acting as moral arbiters for their people—it really caused me to rethink the positions I held.”"

Tulsi Gabbard’s Father, Mother & Family: 5 Fast Facts | Heavy.com

How many people were raised in the church when young but then dismiss it as an adult?

 

[BluesLegend]

It was recently reported that the Dem candidates are spending the money as fast as it comes in. Meanwhile Trump is amassing a war chest.

 

[HappyJoy]

It was recently reported that the Dem candidates are spending the money as fast as it comes in. Meanwhile Trump is amassing a war chest.

That's usually how it works when you have an incumbent.

 

[pknopp]

It was recently reported that the Dem candidates are spending the money as fast as it comes in. Meanwhile Trump is amassing a war chest.

That's usually how it works when you have an incumbent.

Trump is also going to need it as he isn't going to get all the free publicity he got the last time. The media never took him seriously.

 

[BluesLegend]

It was recently reported that the Dem candidates are spending the money as fast as it comes in. Meanwhile Trump is amassing a war chest.

That's usually how it works when you have an incumbent.

How many big donors did the Dem's lose when many of them were exposed as habitual abusers of women?

 

[BluesLegend]

It was recently reported that the Dem candidates are spending the money as fast as it comes in. Meanwhile Trump is amassing a war chest.

That's usually how it works when you have an incumbent.

Trump is also going to need it as he isn't going to get all the free publicity he got the last time. The media never took him seriously.

LMAO president Trump gets free media coverage anytime he feels like it. ^^^ candidate for funniest lib post of the day.

 

[HappyJoy]

It was recently reported that the Dem candidates are spending the money as fast as it comes in. Meanwhile Trump is amassing a war chest.

That's usually how it works when you have an incumbent.

How many big donors did the Dem's lose when many of them were exposed as habitual abusers of women?

Like Trump?

 

[HappyJoy]

It was recently reported that the Dem candidates are spending the money as fast as it comes in. Meanwhile Trump is amassing a war chest.

That's usually how it works when you have an incumbent.

Trump is also going to need it as he isn't going to get all the free publicity he got the last time. The media never took him seriously.

I agree, they don't need to break in live with the latest campaign event.

 

[pknopp]

It was recently reported that the Dem candidates are spending the money as fast as it comes in. Meanwhile Trump is amassing a war chest.

That's usually how it works when you have an incumbent.

Trump is also going to need it as he isn't going to get all the free publicity he got the last time. The media never took him seriously.

LMAO president Trump gets free media coverage anytime he feels like it. ^^^ candidate for funniest lib post of the day.

People argue that the media doesn't lean left. I will not argue that. They do. They will not give him the time they did the last time and the time he does get will be countered unlike last time.

 

[the other mike]

I'm not saying the DNC are a bunch of angels, I'm saying Sanders was hypocritical.

The most popular thing he could have done would have been to run as an Independent - which he would have won imo-- In a 5-way race between Sanders, Trump, Clinton, Stein and Johnson, I believe the %'s would have been Bernie 40% ,Trump 25%, Hillary 25% , Johnson 5% and Stein 5%.

Only without the electoral college.

I don't think he would have won. He already lost to Clinton in the primaries. He probably would have pissed off a lot of them and Trump would have ended up with a plurality of votes.

Bernie did not "lose" in the primaries.

 

[the other mike]

 

[HappyJoy]

I'm not saying the DNC are a bunch of angels, I'm saying Sanders was hypocritical.

The most popular thing he could have done would have been to run as an Independent - which he would have won imo-- In a 5-way race between Sanders, Trump, Clinton, Stein and Johnson, I believe the %'s would have been Bernie 40% ,Trump 25%, Hillary 25% , Johnson 5% and Stein 5%.

Only without the electoral college.

I don't think he would have won. He already lost to Clinton in the primaries. He probably would have pissed off a lot of them and Trump would have ended up with a plurality of votes.

Bernie did not "lose" in the primaries.

Yeah, Clinton got more votes, he lost. That's not counting super delegates either.

 

[BluesLegend]

It was recently reported that the Dem candidates are spending the money as fast as it comes in. Meanwhile Trump is amassing a war chest.

That's usually how it works when you have an incumbent.

Trump is also going to need it as he isn't going to get all the free publicity he got the last time. The media never took him seriously.

LMAO president Trump gets free media coverage anytime he feels like it. ^^^ candidate for funniest lib post of the day.

People argue that the media doesn't lean left. I will not argue that. They do. They will not give him the time they did the last time and the time he does get will be countered unlike last time.

LOL they will have no choice. Trump has run the media in circles for 2+ years. He forces them to cover him to counter something he says or does and while they are trying to repair that damage or spin Trump has already moved on to the next 3 attacks. Its hilarious to watch.

 

[the other mike]

Yeah, Clinton got more votes, he lost. That's not counting super delegates either.

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Elizabeth Warren and Donna Brazile both now agree the 2016 Democratic primary was rigged
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-with-bernie-sanders/?utm_term=.d7e1e3ae2e1b

Donna Brazile Says She Has “Proof” Clinton Rigged the Primary

 

[Lewdog]

Bernie Sanders Dominates as Analyses of Fundraising Data Show Vermont Senator With Widespread Support Across Nation

Individual donors to Democratic candidates for the party's 2020 presidential nomination overwhelmingly gave to Sen. Bernie Sanders, according to analyses released Friday.

The New York Times, in a map produced by the paper's reporters, found that Sanders, an Independent from Vermont, dominates most of the country as the primary or secondary recipient of nearly all donations from Americans in all states—though his support is strongest in New England, New York, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, the eastern Great Plains, and the West.

Bernie Sanders Dominates as Analyses of Fundraising Data Show Vermont Senator With Widespread Support Across Nation

Bernie and Tulsi 2020 ?
https://www.facebook.com/BernieTulsi2020/

Nope. Gabbard will never really have a shot at winning or being on a winning ticket, as she and her family are against gay marriage.

No she isn't. If you have a valid position you do not have to lie about it.

Supposedly she abandoned it while serving in the military, but when it comes to politics... once people knew you had a stance on a subject they will not think you suddenly changed your mind.

There is a bit of truth to this but no one cared that Trump held a ton of positions he didn't in the past. Her family was against gay marriage. That is how she was raised. Once out on her own she dismissed those views. Not uncommon.

"For years, Mike Gabbard was staunchly against gay marriage, seeking to prevent what he called the “radical homosexual agenda” from succeeding. In fact, The New Yorker noted that in 1999, when a character on Dawson’s Creek came out as gay, he flew to North Carolina where the show was filmed to protest. A year earlier, in 1998, Mike successfully sought an amendment to Hawaii’s Constitution, allowing the legislature to ban same-sex marriage.

For a time, Tulsi supported her dad’s beliefs, including objecting to the idea of students’ being taught in schools that homosexuality was “natural.” But she later said that after serving in the military, many of her beliefs changed. She told The New Yorker, “Experiencing as a woman, firsthand, the impacts of countries that are acting as moral arbiters for their people—it really caused me to rethink the positions I held.”"

Tulsi Gabbard’s Father, Mother & Family: 5 Fast Facts | Heavy.com

How many people were raised in the church when young but then dismiss it as an adult?

You are trying to compare Trump and the Republican Party, to Gabbard and the liberal Democratic Party were gay marriage is a HUGE deal.

We are talking about politics, where some people know that candidates will say ANYTHING, including changing their previous positions just to get elected.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Weekend at Bernie's. Just another clown in the dem carnival.

 

[the other mike]

You are trying to compare Trump and the Republican Party, to Gabbard and the liberal Democratic Party were gay marriage is a HUGE deal.

We are talking about politics, where some people know that candidates will say ANYTHING, including changing their previous positions just to get elected.

It's not like Puerto Rico....Yet.

Feminists and LGBTQ Activists Are Leading the Insurrection in Puerto Rico