Senate panel moves to cut off Cheney's funding

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    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Senate Democrats moved Tuesday to cut off funding for Vice President Dick Cheney's office in a continuing battle over whether he must comply with national security disclosure rules.

    A Senate appropriations panel chaired by Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Illinois, refused to fund $4.8 million in the vice president's budget until Cheney's office complies with parts of an executive order governing its handling of classified information.

    At issue is a requirement that executive branch offices provide data on how much material they classify and declassify. That information is to be provided to the Information Security Oversight Office at The National Archives.

    Cheney's office, with backing from the White House, argues that the offices of the president and vice president are exempt from the order because they are not executive branch "agencies."

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/10/democrats.cheney.ap/index.html

    I think that Cheney is in the wrong here, and that the argument that he is not part of the executive branch just plain silly. Nonetheless, this seems like a grade school playground move. I don't see how it will help anything, and I wish the Senate would drop this particular issue.
     
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    yay, lets give the libs more information, so the terrorists can read about it in the new york times.

     
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    The National Archives does not turn over the classified information to anyone or release it publicly, or even actually view the materials. The process is merely an audit to determine that information that is classified is kept in such a way to ensure its secrecy. This has nothing to do with the release of information. It actually is intended to prevent the very opposite.
     
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    The National Archives doesn't take or even review the classified materials. It performs an audit to make sure that classified documents are being kept in a secure manner. It is designed to ensure secrecy, not vice versa.
     
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    I'm rather curious on thoughts for and against Cheney's exemption claim. What's the precedent, if any?
     
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    I think it is a silly claim. It is true that the VP is listed under both Article I and Article II of the Constitution, and I think that the VP could legitimately say that his is a legislative office. However, by virtue of his Article II designation, it appears to be an executive office as well. In light of his earlier successful claim of executive privilege, I have a hard time seeing how he does not qualify as part of the executive branch (even if he could also plausibly claim to be part of the legislative branch).
     
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    What is the historical precedent? Have all other VPs complied with the audit?
     
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    The Executive Order was issued by Clinton in 1998 and then re-issued by Bush. Gore complied with it and Cheney complied with it until 2003, when he stopped complying.
     
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    Sounds like he's lost something to me, LOL.
     
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