Senate Democrats to further damage American intelligence apparatus on the way out the Door

[FA_Q2]

I truly believe that the united states crossed the line here and needs to be held accountable.

Is it dangerous to declassify this information? Absolutely; just as it was dangerous to engage in torture in the first place. Unless we fix this debacle though, we are destined to repeat our own blunders.

The real prescription should be for the US to stay they hell out of foreign affairs - you know, like our founding fathers wanted us to.

You're an idiot. We need intelligence in order to stop attacks before they happen. Our foreign policy should be to do what in the best interest of this country and our allies, not to withdrawal into isolationism so our enemies our adversaries can fill the void .You don't make any sense. Obama is the only "leader" who doesn't do whats in the best interest of his own country. Which is why our enemies are on the move.

We could be a much greater nation if we had no scruples, nor any compunction about dishonoring the integrity that was the cornerstone of our foundation.

We could win the war on drugs by searching every household in the country and every car or pedestrian that drives or walks on our highways.

At issue here, is HOW we do things and what the benefits are when weighed against the ubuse of our personal liberties.

So, how many attacks were actually thwarted, that can justify daily strip searches from Homeland security? You seem to have this all figured out, you tell me.

Foreign terrorist don't have liberties Einstein. our constitution doesn't apply to them no mater how much the leftist hacks would like it to.


This is how Obama treats those who have helped us....the senate report will reveal more names

Doctor Who Helped U.S. Find bin Laden Speaks Out From Prison

Doctor Who Helped U.S. Find bin Laden Speaks Out From Prison

Thanks for the complement, Einstein and me are BFFs.

As for rights, yes, even prisoners have rights. You feeling OK muscles? Two insults in two posts....

Foreign prisoners on foreign soil don't have constitutional rights...... and yeah I'm Fine, just keepin it real

Weather or not that is true is irrelevant to your thread though.

What, exactly, do you think is harmful in releasing a report about actions that we are no longer undertaking? About the only reason I see in keeping secrets is if they are pertinent in ongoing operations or equipment. Other than that, we should be DEMANDING that the government be as open and accountable as possible.

You are one of those that does believe that the government is not particularly good ant anything right (education and the like)? Why, all of the sudden, the complete trust in the government in this sector?

This is where the most grievous violations occur under the veil of secrecy to avoid any actual accountability. That should not be simply accepted.

Lastly, if you really do believe the above then how do you even remotely square that with a cornerstone of freedom: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Not constitutional protections but unalienable rights none the less and that means we must, as FREE people, respect that or we are simply another tyrant.

 

[Jroc]

This move will further damage our ability to collect counterintelligence. Other countries do not trust us anymore which means they will be more reluctant to work with us in the future

The imminent release of a Senate committee report on the CIA’s post-9/11 detention and interrogation program could trigger violence against American citizens and interests abroad, House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and former CIA director Gen. Michael Hayden are warning.


“This will be used by our enemies to motivate people to attack Americans and American facilities overseas,” Hayden told CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday.

He also cautioned that the release of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report would likely reduce the likelihood of partner countries cooperating with U.S. counter-terrorism efforts in future for fear of being exposed.

Rogers called the planned release -- backed by committee Chair Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) -- “a terrible idea.”

“Our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“Foreign leaders have approached the government and said ‘you do this, this will cause violence and deaths.’ Our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths

Democrats Insist on Releasing CIA Report That Could Harm Americans CNS News

Yes, we must maintain secrecy of the governments breach of both domestic and international law. Statists will throw themselves in front of just about anything to protect the omnipotent State.

Saving people's lives you get that right? Damn liberals don't have a problem lying to people to get their tyrannical, liberal policies enacted. You stupid libs dont know how, and don't care if we win a war or save american lives.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

This move will further damage our ability to collect counterintelligence. Other countries do not trust us anymore which means they will be more reluctant to work with us in the future

The imminent release of a Senate committee report on the CIA’s post-9/11 detention and interrogation program could trigger violence against American citizens and interests abroad, House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and former CIA director Gen. Michael Hayden are warning.


“This will be used by our enemies to motivate people to attack Americans and American facilities overseas,” Hayden told CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday.

He also cautioned that the release of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report would likely reduce the likelihood of partner countries cooperating with U.S. counter-terrorism efforts in future for fear of being exposed.

Rogers called the planned release -- backed by committee Chair Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) -- “a terrible idea.”

“Our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“Foreign leaders have approached the government and said ‘you do this, this will cause violence and deaths.’ Our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths

Democrats Insist on Releasing CIA Report That Could Harm Americans CNS News

Yes, we must maintain secrecy of the governments breach of both domestic and international law. Statists will throw themselves in front of just about anything to protect the omnipotent State.

Saving people's lives you get that right? Damn liberals don't have a problem lying to people to get their tyrannical, liberal policies enacted. You stupid libs dont know how, and don't care if we win a war or save american lives.

Sorry, much more interested in liberty, than safety ... you know ... like Ben Franklin mentioned.

Are you getting hot, JRock? I can open a window...

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Sigh

Liberals feigning outrage over the poor brown terrorists being water boarded while in the same pathetic hypocritical stink liberal breath wishing saddam was still alive torturing people.

Their bullshit will not work on me.


Mad cabbie, occupy hypocrite and the rest of fucking pawns can all go fuck themselves.

The deliberate damage this fucking disgrace in the white house has done to this country goes beyond treason.

The second civil war is getting.closer.

Ouch, that HURT. Hey, good luck with protecting the all knowing and omni-pervasive gub'ment.

 

[Roadrunner]

I truly believe that the united states crossed the line here and needs to be held accountable.

Is it dangerous to declassify this information? Absolutely; just as it was dangerous to engage in torture in the first place. Unless we fix this debacle though, we are destined to repeat our own blunders.

The real prescription should be for the US to stay they hell out of foreign affairs - you know, like our founding fathers wanted us to.

You're an idiot. We need intelligence in order to stop attacks before they happen. Our foreign policy should be to do what in the best interest of this country and our allies, not to withdrawal into isolationism so our enemies our adversaries can fill the void .You don't make any sense. Obama is the only "leader" who doesn't do whats in the best interest of his own country. Which is why our enemies are on the move.

When sleep deprivation is called torture, the sheeple will buy anything.

This is all about Feinstein getting her feelings hurt, and her willingness to put people at risk to vent her vindictiveness.

When somebody shows me American soldiers beheading hostages, I will start to worry a little bit.

Fuckers whining about waterboarding, and sleep deprivation, taunting, etc would sing a different tune if their child was beheaded, or died in a terror attack.

Fuckin' hypocrites.

 

[52ndStreet]

This Senator Feinstein should be arrested and tried for actions detrimental to the United States.
How could an American politician release sensitive classified information that could put Americans
in danger overseas.?!What is this woman trying to prove?.
Who are these Democrates to do something like this that will damage America overseas?!

 

[g5000]

Our torturing of prisoners was what finally made me break with the GOP. The torturing of prisoners is also when it became important to the Right to delude themselves into believing Nazis were left wing. Because as the Right became more and more nazi-like, it was internally important to them to believe they were not more and more nazi-like. "We can't be acting like Nazis because Nazis were left wingers". See how that works?

Torture is torture. And we tortured. You can play twisty little games about the Constitutional rights of prisoners, or you can snap to your fucking senses and realize this is a HUMAN RIGHTS issue. Basic, simple, human rights.

We tortured prisoners. We lost our collective minds, established a police state, and went all Nazi for a while. And as long as you excuse it or deny it, you have no standing when you whine about whatever the fuck you claim Obama is doing.

You dipshits handed the totalitarian baton to Obama.

 

[FA_Q2]

This move will further damage our ability to collect counterintelligence. Other countries do not trust us anymore which means they will be more reluctant to work with us in the future

The imminent release of a Senate committee report on the CIA’s post-9/11 detention and interrogation program could trigger violence against American citizens and interests abroad, House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and former CIA director Gen. Michael Hayden are warning.


“This will be used by our enemies to motivate people to attack Americans and American facilities overseas,” Hayden told CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday.

He also cautioned that the release of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report would likely reduce the likelihood of partner countries cooperating with U.S. counter-terrorism efforts in future for fear of being exposed.

Rogers called the planned release -- backed by committee Chair Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) -- “a terrible idea.”

“Our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“Foreign leaders have approached the government and said ‘you do this, this will cause violence and deaths.’ Our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths

Democrats Insist on Releasing CIA Report That Could Harm Americans CNS News

Yes, we must maintain secrecy of the governments breach of both domestic and international law. Statists will throw themselves in front of just about anything to protect the omnipotent State.

Saving people's lives you get that right? Damn liberals don't have a problem lying to people to get their tyrannical, liberal policies enacted. You stupid libs dont know how, and don't care if we win a war or save american lives.

Sorry, much more interested in liberty, than safety ... you know ... like Ben Franklin mentioned.

Are you getting hot, JRock? I can open a window...

Very true words. You cant have liberty while pining for security - we are giving up one for imagined dregs of the other. The very same 'logic' used for torture is used for the NSA's spying program and the PA/NDAA. It does not fly for those either.


Liberty or death.

 

[FA_Q2]

I truly believe that the united states crossed the line here and needs to be held accountable.

Is it dangerous to declassify this information? Absolutely; just as it was dangerous to engage in torture in the first place. Unless we fix this debacle though, we are destined to repeat our own blunders.

The real prescription should be for the US to stay they hell out of foreign affairs - you know, like our founding fathers wanted us to.

You're an idiot. We need intelligence in order to stop attacks before they happen. Our foreign policy should be to do what in the best interest of this country and our allies, not to withdrawal into isolationism so our enemies our adversaries can fill the void .You don't make any sense. Obama is the only "leader" who doesn't do whats in the best interest of his own country. Which is why our enemies are on the move.

When sleep deprivation is called torture, the sheeple will buy anything.

This is all about Feinstein getting her feelings hurt, and her willingness to put people at risk to vent her vindictiveness.

When somebody shows me American soldiers beheading hostages, I will start to worry a little bit.

Fuckers whining about waterboarding, and sleep deprivation, taunting, etc would sing a different tune if their child was beheaded, or died in a terror attack.

Fuckin' hypocrites.

Then why the opposition to releasing the data?

If there is nothing that is particularly bad then who cares? Apparently we have opposing thoughts here.

 

[g5000]

When sleep deprivation is called torture, the sheeple will buy anything.

This is all about Feinstein getting her feelings hurt, and her willingness to put people at risk to vent her vindictiveness.

When somebody shows me American soldiers beheading hostages, I will start to worry a little bit.

Fuckers whining about waterboarding, and sleep deprivation, taunting, etc would sing a different tune if their child was beheaded, or died in a terror attack.

Fuckin' hypocrites.

Sieg Heil!

Vee haf vays to make you talk, old man...

 

[Theowl32]

Aaaaand liberals still wish saddam was still in power, all while they cry about the poor brown terrorists who were water boarded. All to the acknowledgement of their fucking democrats btw (hillary and pelosi to name a few).

Notice too how these fucking left wing hypocritical pieces of smelly shit never protest that our own soldiers are water boarded in training? They could not care less about that.


Do not get caught up in their feigned hysteria as they worhsip their traitorous god in the white house as he droned American citizens. As they pretend to care about the 5 sandniggers that planned 911.

The liberals are not worth your time. They are such fucking hypocrical cocksuckers that they believe all of their own bullshit. Just laugh in all of their fucking faces for being the brainwashed dickless moronic pawns they all are for their democrat socialist pigs.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

I truly believe that the united states crossed the line here and needs to be held accountable.

Is it dangerous to declassify this information? Absolutely; just as it was dangerous to engage in torture in the first place. Unless we fix this debacle though, we are destined to repeat our own blunders.

The real prescription should be for the US to stay they hell out of foreign affairs - you know, like our founding fathers wanted us to.

You're an idiot. We need intelligence in order to stop attacks before they happen. Our foreign policy should be to do what in the best interest of this country and our allies, not to withdrawal into isolationism so our enemies our adversaries can fill the void .You don't make any sense. Obama is the only "leader" who doesn't do whats in the best interest of his own country. Which is why our enemies are on the move.

When sleep deprivation is called torture, the sheeple will buy anything.

This is all about Feinstein getting her feelings hurt, and her willingness to put people at risk to vent her vindictiveness.

When somebody shows me American soldiers beheading hostages, I will start to worry a little bit.

Fuckers whining about waterboarding, and sleep deprivation, taunting, etc would sing a different tune if their child was beheaded, or died in a terror attack.

Fuckin' hypocrites.

I think you missed the part about pretending to exicute prisoners and threatening to murder their children. That is part of what has already come to light.

Rest assured, the bad guys know what we are up to regardless of the CIA report.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Aaaaand liberals still wish saddam wad still in power, all while they cry about the poor brown terrorists who were water boarded. All to the acknowledgement of their fucking democrats btw (hillary and pelosi to name a few).

Notice too how these fucking left wing hypocritical pieces of smelly shit never protest that our own soldiets are water boarded in training? They could not care less about that.


Do not get caught up in their feigned hysteria as they worhsip their traitorous god in the white house as he droned American citizens. As they pretend to care about the 5 sandniggers that planned 911.

The liberals are not worth your time. They are such fucking hypocrical cocksuckers that they believe all of their own bullshit. Just laugh in all of their fucking faces for being the brainwashed dickless moronic pawns they all are for their democrat socialist pigs.

Don't forget republicans gnashing their teeth because terrorist were getting splattered by drones and now, NO ONE was safe or that we invaded a "sovereign" nation, only to kill Bin Laden without giving the poor man a fair trial.

A moment of silence, please....

 

[Jroc]

You're an idiot. We need intelligence in order to stop attacks before they happen. Our foreign policy should be to do what in the best interest of this country and our allies, not to withdrawal into isolationism so our enemies our adversaries can fill the void .You don't make any sense. Obama is the only "leader" who doesn't do whats in the best interest of his own country. Which is why our enemies are on the move.

We could be a much greater nation if we had no scruples, nor any compunction about dishonoring the integrity that was the cornerstone of our foundation.

We could win the war on drugs by searching every household in the country and every car or pedestrian that drives or walks on our highways.

At issue here, is HOW we do things and what the benefits are when weighed against the ubuse of our personal liberties.

So, how many attacks were actually thwarted, that can justify daily strip searches from Homeland security? You seem to have this all figured out, you tell me.

Foreign terrorist don't have liberties Einstein. our constitution doesn't apply to them no mater how much the leftist hacks would like it to.


This is how Obama treats those who have helped us....the senate report will reveal more names

Doctor Who Helped U.S. Find bin Laden Speaks Out From Prison

Doctor Who Helped U.S. Find bin Laden Speaks Out From Prison

Thanks for the complement, Einstein and me are BFFs.

As for rights, yes, even prisoners have rights. You feeling OK muscles? Two insults in two posts....

Foreign prisoners on foreign soil don't have constitutional rights...... and yeah I'm Fine, just keepin it real

Weather or not that is true is irrelevant to your thread though.

What, exactly, do you think is harmful in releasing a report about actions that we are no longer undertaking? About the only reason I see in keeping secrets is if they are pertinent in ongoing operations or equipment. Other than that, we should be DEMANDING that the government be as open and accountable as possible.

You are one of those that does believe that the government is not particularly good ant anything right (education and the like)? Why, all of the sudden, the complete trust in the government in this sector?

This is where the most grievous violations occur under the veil of secrecy to avoid any actual accountability. That should not be simply accepted.

Lastly, if you really do believe the above then how do you even remotely square that with a cornerstone of freedom: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Not constitutional protections but unalienable rights none the less and that means we must, as FREE people, respect that or we are simply another tyrant.

shut up idiot Constitution of the world now

This move will further damage our ability to collect counterintelligence. Other countries do not trust us anymore which means they will be more reluctant to work with us in the future

The imminent release of a Senate committee report on the CIA’s post-9/11 detention and interrogation program could trigger violence against American citizens and interests abroad, House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and former CIA director Gen. Michael Hayden are warning.


“This will be used by our enemies to motivate people to attack Americans and American facilities overseas,” Hayden told CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday.

He also cautioned that the release of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report would likely reduce the likelihood of partner countries cooperating with U.S. counter-terrorism efforts in future for fear of being exposed.

Rogers called the planned release -- backed by committee Chair Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) -- “a terrible idea.”

“Our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“Foreign leaders have approached the government and said ‘you do this, this will cause violence and deaths.’ Our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths

Democrats Insist on Releasing CIA Report That Could Harm Americans CNS News

Yes, we must maintain secrecy of the governments breach of both domestic and international law. Statists will throw themselves in front of just about anything to protect the omnipotent State.

Saving people's lives you get that right? Damn liberals don't have a problem lying to people to get their tyrannical, liberal policies enacted. You stupid libs dont know how, and don't care if we win a war or save american lives.

Sorry, much more interested in liberty, than safety ... you know ... like Ben Franklin mentioned.

Are you getting hot, JRock? I can open a window...

Yeah liberty for terrorist to kill Americans.... I'll pass on that kind of "liberty"

 

[Stephanie]

Was Nancy Pelosi Misled On Torture? Or Is She Complicit?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Senate Democrats to further damage American intelligence apparatus on the way out the Door"

The damage was already done years ago when the torture occurred, the report merely documents facts already known. And that you and others on the right want to cover up the report for partisan reasons is reprehensible.

 

[Dot Com]

"Senate Democrats to further damage American intelligence apparatus on the way out the Door"

The damage was already done years ago when the torture occurred, the report merely documents facts already known. And that you and others on the right want to cover up the report for partisan reasons is reprehensible.

^ that

/end thread

Sent from my BN NookHD+ using Tapatalk

 

[Yarddog]

Democrats Use Torture Report to Embolden America's Enemies

Rush Limbaugh.com ^

RUSH: The Senate committee report on the CIA's post-9/11 detention and interrogation program is going to be released. The Democrats are insisting on releasing this CIA report now. You know what this is? This will be another catalog in how flawed and how mean and how extreme this country is because we tortured. If you boil this down to its essence, the Democrats are gonna release another report via a Senate committee that they still run on how rotten the CIA was, how bad our interrogators were, how mean we are, and how this is not who we are. And...

Yeah, the Administration is so TRANSPARENT when it comes to anything to make evryone else look bad except for themselves. Once they themselves get scrutinized, its the 5th amendment and "what difference does it make". Funny how they dont give a damn that people are actually going to die from this information being released, and most likeley captives will be TORTURED in response to the information. what idiots

 

[Yarddog]

I truly believe that the united states crossed the line here and needs to be held accountable.

Is it dangerous to declassify this information? Absolutely; just as it was dangerous to engage in torture in the first place. Unless we fix this debacle though, we are destined to repeat our own blunders.

The real prescription should be for the US to stay they hell out of foreign affairs - you know, like our founding fathers wanted us to.

Its already known that we engaged in waterboarding, sleep deprivation, other techniques considered to be Torture. Those things also havnt been done for many years now, so the need to correct it is really not so great. The Damage done at this time will far outwheigh any benefit in releasing this information to our enemies. They should release it to Congress and leave it there. It can be released in later years to the world. Doing it right now while the wounds are still fresh and there is so much instability in the world seems like a rookie mistake or a sour grapes type of move by this administration.

 

[Jroc]

I truly believe that the united states crossed the line here and needs to be held accountable.

Is it dangerous to declassify this information? Absolutely; just as it was dangerous to engage in torture in the first place. Unless we fix this debacle though, we are destined to repeat our own blunders.

The real prescription should be for the US to stay they hell out of foreign affairs - you know, like our founding fathers wanted us to.

Its already known that we engaged in waterboarding, sleep deprivation, other techniques considered to be Torture. Those things also havnt been done for many years now, so the need to correct it is really not so great. The Damage done at this time will far outwheigh any benefit in releasing this information to our enemies. They should release it to Congress and leave it there. It can be released in later years to the world. Doing it right now while the wounds are still fresh and there is so much instability in the world seems like a rookie mistake or a sour grapes type of move by this administration.

All politics with these idiots anyway democrat party , partisan ,report, released on the same day as the Grubber testimony. these libs are pathetic really, and our enemies laugh at there stupidity.