Senate Defies Veto Threat

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Well they are 0 for 5 and keep the books open

Dems passed their "Surrender At All Cost Bill", telling the terrorists the exact date the troops will leave Iraq, they packed it with such vital military spending like millions for peanut storage, shrimp and spinach farmers, and effectively handing Iraq over to the terrorists.

In keeping with on the basic foundations of liberalism, Dems want to pass the largest tax increase in the history of the US. In the Dems new budget, they are proposing new taxes totaling near $400 billion over five years

they want to take more of everyones money.


Dems said they would "drain the swamp" of corruption and yet a little reported story about Sen Feinstein having to step down as head the Senate Military Construction Appropriations Subcommittee after reports linked her votes to her husband's companies, which received billions in military construction contracts she approved.

Draining the swamp isnt a problem cause Cheney has a very expensive life boat.

Cheney's financial ties to Halliburton, a contractor formerly headed by the VP that has been granted lucrative government contracts for Iraqi reconstruction;

Halliburton was granted a $7 billion no-bid contract, the execution of which received much scrutiny from U.S. Government auditors along with the media and various political opponents who also scrutinized the awarding of the contract, claiming that it represented a conflict of interest for Mr. Cheney. In June 2004,

the General Accounting Office reviewed the contracting procedures and found Halliburton's no-bid contracts were legal and likely justified by the Pentagon's wartime needs

Under Cheney's tenure, the number of Halliburton subsidiaries in offshore tax havens increased from 9 to 44.

Why hasnt anyone seriously considered Cheney obviously favored Halliburton, but because its "Shoots you in the face King of Denial Dick Cheney", you know you better not probe deeper.


Of course taxes are going to go up, who is going to pay these bills?

And yeah, everyone has to pay. You seem to be "Pro War" but not when the check arrives.

The difference in a Democratic Tax bill and a Republican bill is that poor people would be paying more if the Republicans wrote it.

How much the war costs a year (from CRS via the Washington Post):

$51 billion in 2003

$77 billion in 2004

$87 billion in 2005

$102 billion in 2006 (projected

As for your lame repetition of the peanut and spinach spending, read into it and find out why those are in the bill, Katrina fucked up alot of shit, and no one cares.

The Senate measure contains
$72.4 billion for military operations and the war on Terror

$27 billion for hurricane relief -$2.9 billion for Gulf Coast hurricane recovery, including $1.3 billion for New Orleans levee repairs.-

$4 billion for agricultural disaster assistance, (Katrina)

$2.3 billion for pandemic flu preparedness

$648 million for port security.

There is more, but im sure you will stop once you reach the political talking points.

Every bill gets shaved and reformed before it is finalized, im sure your "Peanuts amendment" will be lost before the bill is passed.

 

[red states rule]

Unlike little Di - VP Cheney NEVER approved the contracts. Haliburton is one of very few companies that provide the services they provide

Libs will rant and rave if any Republican even has a hint of scandel - but everytime they will give their own a pass

As far as taxes - a very small minoroity of people pay a huge majority of taxes in the US

Today, revenues to the government are at record highs with tax CUTS. The annual deficit is shrinking and as decreased for the last four years in a row

Libs will never get it. If you want to tax something you must encourage the activity. When you raise taxes you discourage business activity and you do NOT get the expected increases in revenues

 

[T-Bor]

Red States gets owned again. Red States, why is it that you think your party is so angelic? Do you honestly think the republican party isnt crooked?

Have you ever looked at the tax brackets since Bush got in office? It is literally impossible for me, I make 80K a year, and its impossible for me to drop tax brackets to get a tax break. When Clinton was in office it wouldnt have been a problem. That is what Dems do for people, they make the rich pay more and the poor pay less. Republicans love sticking it to the middle class and the poor. And you cant deny that shit its the fucking truth. YOu can take your party and shove it up your ass because they suck !!!!!

By the way you got owned AGAIN above.

 

[T-Bor]

Huh ? So you are telling me the republicans throw their own to the lions? Is that what you are telling me? Bush doesnt cover for his people? Is that what you are telling me? Holy shit man you are so biased.

Libs will rant and rave if any Republican even has a hint of scandel - but everytime they will give their own a pass

 

[red states rule]

Red States gets owned again. Red States, why is it that you think your party is so angelic? Do you honestly think the republican party isnt crooked?

Have you ever looked at the tax brackets since Bush got in office? It is literally impossible for me, I make 80K a year, and its impossible for me to drop tax brackets to get a tax break. When Clinton was in office it wouldnt have been a problem. That is what Dems do for people, they make the rich pay more and the poor pay less. Republicans love sticking it to the middle class and the poor. And you cant deny that shit its the fucking truth. YOu can take your party and shove it up your ass because they suck !!!!!

By the way you got owned AGAIN above.

Every taxpayer got a tax cut. The "poor" libs claim they care so much about got a 33% cut in their tax rate. The rate went from 15% to 10%

Tax revenues are at record highs and all Dems want to do is to rape the producers even more

Libs really need to get over their wealth envy complex

 

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Unlike little Di - VP Cheney NEVER approved the contracts. Haliburton is one of very few companies that provide the services they provide

Libs will rant and rave if any Republican even has a hint of scandel - but everytime they will give their own a pass

Cheney never had to approve the contracts, at the time every choke point, ever top branch in the White House was placed there by him, he's been working with Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Libby and Rove for decades, you think when the choice came up for Halliburton they said, "Who else is available?" Not fuckin likely.

Go back, check it out, see what Libby was in charge of in the white house, and who else made decisions in the white house that Cheney was friends with or hired.


Gonzales is going down, he will be fired, and if and when Rove has to testify, he wont be under oath and Bush will be long gone.

Republicans sell out the bottom rung, and turn their backs forever.

 

[red states rule]

Huh ? So you are telling me the republicans throw their own to the lions? Is that what you are telling me? Bush doesnt cover for his people? Is that what you are telling me? Holy shit man you are so biased.

and you are a liberal nut who needs to enroll in anger management class

There are many Republicans who have been tossed aside. Hell you had a Dem who had sex with pages and he was given a standing "O" and promoted to a Chairmenship

 

[red states rule]

Cheney never had to approve the contracts, at the time every choke point, ever top branch in the White House was placed there by him, he's been working with Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Libby and Rove for decades, you think when the choice came up for Halliburton they said, "Who else is available?" Not fuckin likely.

Go back, check it out, see what Libby was in charge of in the white house, and who else made decisions in the white house that Cheney was friends with or hired.

Ah, the vast conspiracy thing again

Funny how enraged you are over Cheney - but you do not seem to care about your gal Di

 

[T-Bor]

Im not angry at all... But in your typical fashion you avoided the question. You mentioned that the libs cover their own which implys the republicans dont. Would you like me to start listing the Bush scandals over the years and the people he defended? How about Valerie Plame? Yeah the republicans didnt do everything they could to DISCREDIT her service. Does it get anymore unpatriotic than to purposely discredit a CIA agent because her husband busted Bush on one of his bullshit reasons for going to war.

and you are a liberal nut who needs to enroll in anger management class

There are many Republicans who have been tossed aside. Hell you had a Dem who had sex with pages and he was given a standing "O" and promoted to a Chairmenship

 

[red states rule]

Im not angry at all... But in your typical fashion you avoided the question. You mentioned about the libs cover their own which implys the republicans dont. Would you like me to start listing the Bush scandals over the years and the people he defended? How about Valerie Plame? Yeah the republicans didnt do everything they could to DISCREDIT her service. Does it get anymore unpatriotic than to purposely discredit a CIA agent because her husband busted Bush on one of his bullshit reasons for going to war.

Even the DA said no law was BROKEN with Plame. She was a CIA paper pusher. It seems libs have no prblems with the NY Times publisshing classified documents to undermine Pres Bush and the war - but wet their pants over the "outing" of a CIA paper pusher

 

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Dems said they would "drain the swamp" of corruption and yet a little reported story about Sen Feinstein having to step down as head the Senate Military Construction Appropriations Subcommittee after reports linked her votes to her husband's companies, which received billions in military construction contracts she approved.

What do i have to worry about? Senator Feinstein stepped down.

WHERE IS CHENEY? Still VP and still denying Iraq is a fuck up and that the sun rose yesterday.

 

[red states rule]

What do i have to worry about? Senator Feinstein stepped down.

WHERE IS CHENEY? Still VP and still denying Iraq is a fuck up and that the sun rose yesterday.

Stepped down, but no investagation? Pelosi and Reid said they were going to run the most ethical Congress ever

BTW, Cold Cash Jefferson is still held in high esteem by Dems. So much for "draining the swamp"

Show me proof where Cheney approved contracts to Haliburton and I will call for him to be impeached

All libs ever have is emotion and no facts

 

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Even the DA said no law was BROKEN with Plame. She was a CIA paper pusher. It seems libs have no prblems with the NY Times publisshing classified documents to undermine Pres Bush and the war - but wet their pants over the "outing" of a CIA paper pusher

Again you have been brainwashed by the Government "FRAMING THE ISSUE" you dont even see the real story THE FACT IS GOVERNMENT CONDUCTED ILLEGAL WIRE TAPS ON PRIVATE CITIZENS.

All you hear is what Blitzer told you in the situation room, How fast do you think a CNN's stock would fall if they spoke the direct truth about the american government?

Advertisers would pull out faster than your dad should have, and the news organizations would lose money.

Oh but the news isnt biased, no, no, not at all.

When a news organization publishes the TRUTH, (NYT) all the other little agencies who want to keep paying the bills jump on the old WhiteHouse Talking points.

But you can (and will) go and take Tony Snows talking points as truth and fact, The FACT is, The New York Times did its job. it reported to "YOU" the public that the Government of the United States commited an illegal act and George W Bush gave the OK.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously do you only watch FOX news?

 

[red states rule]

Again you have been brainwashed by the Government "FRAMING THE ISSUE" you dont even see the real story THE FACT IS GOVERNMENT CONDUCTED ILLEGAL WIRE TAPS ON PRIVATE CITIZENS.

All you hear is what Blitzer told you in the situation room, How fast do you think a CNN's stock would fall if they spoke the direct truth about the american government?

Advertisers would pull out faster than your dad should have, and the news organizations would lose money.

Oh but the news isnt biased, no, no, not at all.

When a news organization publishes the TRUTH, (NYT) all the other little agencies who want to keep paying the bills jump on the old WhiteHouse Talking points.

But you can (and will) go and take Tony Snows talking points as truth and fact, The FACT is, The New York Times did its job. it reported to "YOU" the public that the Government of the United States commited an illegal act and George W Bush gave the OK.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously do you only watch FOX news?

Do you have any odea how many government employees ot would take to listen to phone calls on US citizens? The point is, the calls being monitired came from or were made to countries outside the US in an attempt to capture terrorists

Libs would like nothing more for there to be another 9-11 on US soil so they can blame Pres Bush for it. Why else do libs oppose every method to try and capture, question, and kill terrorists?

 

[boedicca]

What do i have to worry about? Senator Feinstein stepped down.

WHERE IS CHENEY? Still VP and still denying Iraq is a fuck up and that the sun rose yesterday.

Please provide one shred of evidence that Cheney appropriated money to Halliburton - and explain how he personally profits from Halliburton's future profitability when his pension is in a fixed annuity.

 

[red states rule]

Please provide one shred of evidence that Cheney appropriated money to Halliburton - and explain how he personally profits from Halliburton's future profitability when his pension is in a fixed annuity.

Asking a liberal to provide facts is like asking Ted Kennedy to stop drinking

 

[T-Bor]

She was a paper pusher huh? She worked to help keep Nukes out of terrorists hands..but then Bush and his lackeys do everything they can to discredit her. A paper pusher...LOL...a lackey if you will right.. Thats funny. She was an UNDERCOVER AGENT...Period..

 

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Do you have any odea how many government employees ot would take to listen to phone calls on US citizens? The point is, the calls being monitired came from or were made to countries outside the US in an attempt to capture terrorists

Libs would like nothing more for there to be another 9-11 on US soil so they can blame Pres Bush for it. Why else do libs oppose every method to try and capture, question, and kill terrorists?

Again, you use Government talking points straight from GW's mouth to frame the issue.

Do you question anything you hear outside of this board?

Dude, What time period do you live in 1978? You think there is a warehouse full of people with headsets on listening to phone calls and reading your e-mails? Really? is that what you think?

They're called Computers, I believe you're using one to regurgitate your republican brainwashing facts on everyone here.

Computers monitor far more than you can imagine, screening for alot of key words and phrases in alot more phone calls and e-mails than just ones going out of the country.

"Oh we were only listening to terrorists phone calls, if your not a terrorist you dont need to worry"-sarcasm

"If we can't monitor everyone the terrorists will win"-sarcasm

"You are emboldening the Terrorists"-sarcasm

Sure the Libs oppose the program dont you understand it's illegal under FISA as well as unconstitutional under the First and Fourth Amendments of the United States Constitution.

"We must Wire-Tap, because the terrorists could strike at any moment" -Sarcasm

"What if we didnt Wire-Tap and the terrorists struck?"-sarcasm

This is all the spun shit that came out of the White House, Not a single word or phrase remotely similar to

"What we did was conduct illegal Wire-Taps"-WishFull Thinking

there was no admition of wrong doing, they basically said

"Let us do what we do, and you shut the fuck up, especially you NYT, this is your fault we are totally turning this around on you, what business do you have telling the public what we are doing."-The Truth


And you listened, and you listed so well that you memorized it.
Awesome, well done, good little soldier.

Im not even gonna read your next post, ill just turn on FOX NEWS and write it for you.

You may have noticed the sacrastic points are noted, thats so its clear when im being sarcastic, ive learned that the concept escapes alot of people here.
I wouldnt want to confuse anyone.

 

[T-Bor]

Why dont you answer his question?

Answer: He cant.

QUOTE=red states rule;545133]Asking a liberal to provide facts is like asking Ted Kennedy to stop drinking[/QUOTE]

 

[red states rule]

She was a paper pusher huh? She worked to help keep Nukes out of terrorists hands..but then Bush and his lackeys do everything they can to discredit her. A paper pusher...LOL...a lackey if you will right.. Thats funny. She was an UNDERCOVER AGENT...Period..

If she was a super secret agent, how did all her friends and neighbors know she worked for the CIA?