Sen. Rand Paul / CBS Ambush FAILS!...

"Just because some in Congress agreed to it, doesn't mean it's right."

Man, i wish we had more Rand Pauls in our Government.
 
"Just because some in Congress agreed to it, doesn't mean it's right."

Man, i wish we had more Rand Pauls in our Government.

You can say THAT again.

Hopefully times are changing. Constitutional Conservatism seems to be gaining traction. It's the only logical alternative to this Socialist/Progressive & Neocon madness. Time to get back to basics.
 
Gotta love that unbiased media. May as well sent a lynch mob after him.

It's a familiar knee-jerk reaction for them. Especially when one of their own is in the White House. Journalism in America is on life-support at this point.
 
You know, that Rand Paul guy should run for President! What party do you think will nominate him?

No party will elect Rand. Freedom loving Americans will put him in the WH. Count on it.

Is that a prediction? What year? 2016?

Are you sure you feel up to making predictions again? It might be too soon.

Actually, after seeing how rampant voter fraud was, how the IRS attacked the Tea Party to keep them from being active in this past election, I have nothing to worry about.. Rand will run ..if he gets the nomination, I believe he can defeat that skank Hillary who sat on her fat ass while Americans died and did nothing. I'd love to have that conversation.. Bring it on.
 
No party will elect Rand. Freedom loving Americans will put him in the WH. Count on it.

Is that a prediction? What year? 2016?

Are you sure you feel up to making predictions again? It might be too soon.

Actually, after seeing how rampant voter fraud was, how the IRS attacked the Tea Party to keep them from being active in this past election, I have nothing to worry about.. Rand will run ..if he gets the nomination, I believe he can defeat that skank Hillary who sat on her fat ass while Americans died and did nothing. I'd love to have that conversation.. Bring it on.

Let me see. You just predicted that he will run......but you are not sure he will get the nomination. That means you are expecting him to run as a Republican.......but you are not sure there are enough Republixans who want him to be the nominee. Regardless, you are certain that he will defeat Hillary.

You are predicting a Rand Paul Presidency in 2017 IF he can win the nomination?

You are special.
 
Man, if he runs in 2016 Dems and Reps are gonna have a hard time keeping him down...

It's interesting to see how well Rand knocks down attempts to make him look crazy, something the media was very good at doing with his father Ron.
 
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Is that a prediction? What year? 2016?

Are you sure you feel up to making predictions again? It might be too soon.

Actually, after seeing how rampant voter fraud was, how the IRS attacked the Tea Party to keep them from being active in this past election, I have nothing to worry about.. Rand will run ..if he gets the nomination, I believe he can defeat that skank Hillary who sat on her fat ass while Americans died and did nothing. I'd love to have that conversation.. Bring it on.

Let me see. You just predicted that he will run......but you are not sure he will get the nomination. That means you are expecting him to run as a Republican.......but you are not sure there are enough Republixans who want him to be the nominee. Regardless, you are certain that he will defeat Hillary.

You are predicting a Rand Paul Presidency in 2017 IF he can win the nomination?

You are special.

The only one special is yourself. I predict I Paul presidency if he gets the nomination--he would have to get the damn nomination to win the election. There isn't anything ambiguous in that statement.
 
"Just because some in Congress agreed to it, doesn't mean it's right."

Man, i wish we had more Rand Pauls in our Government.

I was just reading an article about the 26 Republicans who joined with a lot of Democrats to vote against the extension of the Patriot Act in 2011.

Pretty interesting. Just to satisfy my own curiosity I'll have to try to pull up the total vote on this and who each member was that voted against the President and Boehner on this.

Article is worth the read.


Why Did 26 Republicans Vote Against Extending the Patriot Act?
Feb 9, 2011 – 4:30 PM


Andrea Stone Senior Washington Correspondent
WASHINGTON -- House Republican leaders expecting an easy two-thirds vote to extend key provisions of the Patriot Act were handed a rude surprise when 26 of their own opted to side with Nancy Pelosi and the American Civil Liberties Union instead of them.

For Speaker of the House John Boehner, who once suggested to his new tea party compatriots that they would need to act like "adults" on tough votes such as raising the debt ceiling, what should have been a routine roll call turned into possibly the first concrete evidence that his caucus may be more unruly than he imagined.

The majority party came up seven votes short of keeping alive three provisions set to expire at the end of the month. Tuesday's 277-148 vote came under special rules normally reserved for measures deemed to be noncontroversial.

The vote "disappointed" Rep. James Sensenbrenner, the former Judiciary Committee chairman who introduced the Patriot Act soon after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to give law enforcement sweeping powers of surveillance aimed at thwarting future terrorist plots. He said time was running out to bring the measures back for a simple majority vote open to extended debate and amendments.

The soon-to-expire provisions:

Allow roving wiretaps of terrorism suspects who change phones or locations.
Authorize the government access with a court order to "any tangible thing" related to a suspect, including library records.
Enable authorities to conduct secret surveillance on "lone wolf" suspects who are not affiliated with a known terrorist group.

The measures have long irked civil libertarians in both parties and stoked unease among conservatives worried about big government invading their privacy.

Among the Republicans objecting to extending the measures were libertarian Rep. Ron Paul and eight tea party freshmen. They included Bobby Schilling, an Illinois pizza parlor owner who favors smaller government, and Justin Amash, a Palestinian-American from Michigan who has "serious reservations" related to protecting civil liberties.

"The breadth of the provisions raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns in my mind, and I cannot support them as currently written," Amash said.

Considering that Rep. Michele Bachmann and others in her tea party caucus voted for the extensions, the defections hardly amount to a full-scale rebellion.

Bachmann may be obsessed with the Constitution but, "Some tea party leaders want to give a complete pass on anything national security or defense-related," said ACLU Washington Legislative Director Laura Murphy. "We're urging people to be consistent."

Still, said Drake University political scientist Dennis Goldford, the unexpected setback "sends a signal to Boehner, if he didn't already know it, that he's going to have to navigate some difficult shoals at times" with "purist types" who "will be willing to go over the cliff with flag waving and not worry about the consequences."

If some Republicans chose principle over party on the Patriot Act, others fit in with the findings of a Public Religion Research Institute survey that showed "rank-and-file tea party constituents are highly selective in their libertarianism, despite the rhetoric of some tea party elites," said the group's Robert Jones, a tea party expert.

He notes that nearly half of those identifying with the movement also identify with the Christian Right, "and on issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage, they are not civil libertarians but social conservatives."

While the survey did not ask specifically about the Patriot Act, tea party supporters are more hawkish when it comes to national security and defense issues. Nearly two-thirds, for instance, disagree that torture can never be used on suspected terrorists. Americans overall are more evenly divided on the controversial issue.

Rather than champion libertarian positions that protect individual rights, on security, tea party supporters are more likely to lean toward "fairly statist positions that might threaten individual rights," Jones said.

He suggested that Republican House members who voted "no" on Tuesday may have objected more on procedural than substantive libertarian grounds to how the legislation was brought swiftly to the floor under suspended rules.

GOP leadership aides downplayed the significance of the defections. Going rogue on the Patriot Act, they suggested, provides few clues to how members will vote on spending and other measures.

They focused instead on the 122 Democrats who voted against President Barack Obama, who favored the extension.

They include 36 Democrats, including party leaders like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz of Florida and Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, who switched their positions after voting for the same provisions in the then-Democratically controlled House last year.

"Democrats in Congress voted to deny their own administration's request for key weapons in the war on terror," said Erica Elliott, spokeswoman for House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy.

"This lack of party-line orthodoxy is not a surprise to us, and we're very excited about it," said the ACLU's Murphy, adding that her organization has "enjoyed a very respectful relationship" with Ron Paul.


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