See Something, Say Something: New York City Versus Arizona

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    See Something, Say Something: New York City Versus Arizona

    Horace Cooper

    After a bomb was recently discovered in a smoking Nissan SUV in Times Square, America watched anxiously as city, state, and federal authorities investigated.

    In just 53 hours, law enforcement and national security teams working together successfully apprehended the terrorist — Pakistani born émigré Faisal Shahzad. His dramatic capture off a Dubai-bound airliner just moments before it took flight seemed more like a Tom Clancy novel than real-life.

    Amazingly, this potentially devastating terror act ended almost as quickly as it began.

    Here is the takeaway: it was New York City beat cops working with street vendors, along with the FBI and the CIA, which produced the correct outcome. No one was hurt, and the suspected terrorist was apprehended.

    Yet when Arizona — after years of skyrocketing crime from smugglers and drug traffickers — attempts an almost identical type of collaboration, East and West Coast elites react with vitriol.

    The issues are so similar it is truly curious that no one has managed to put them together before now. Unless their agenda is purely political, critics of Arizona’s new illegal immigration statute should also logically attack New York. After all, why should New York be allowed to tread on federal government authority when critics say it is wrong for Arizona to do so?
     
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    If Arizona feels that their law is in compliance with federal law then they should seek formal certification from the Dept. of Homeland Security which would give them that seal of approval. It's a document called a Memorandum of Agreement. Arizona has actively resisted the MOA process. All the other states obtain MOA's but for some unknown reason AZ refuses. Why won't Arizona try to gain formal certification saying they're in compliance with federal law? Everyone else does. Why won't they?
     
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    Mexicans = terrorists?

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    Seen thru the eyes of an idiot
     
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    That's not a nice thing to say about PP.
     
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    #1 the feds won't approve it.

    #2 all they are doing is detaining someone for a federal crime and handing them to ICE. Same way local cops detained two Egyptians in Goose Creek, SC, for federal terrorism suspicion and handed them to the FBI.

    #3- Georgia and Oklahoma, at their most recent application, were denied the same MOA Rhode Island got. Why? They have a lot of illegals, RI doesn't.
     
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    Illegal aliens violated federal law.
    Terrorists violated federal law.
    Bernie Madoff violated federal law.

    Local cops can detain all three to be handed over to proper federal authorities if caught in act of violating the federal law.
     
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    Arizona hasn't even applied yet. If they're serious they have to at least TRY.

    Get an MOA and it's all fine. When you don't even try to get one you're not acting legitimately. The formal process is there. If Arizona is serious about their talk then all they have to do is start the ball rolling on this process.

    Gotta link that says that?
     
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    First, they let their cops do their jobs and follow leads.

    Second, they ALREADY knew that this was probably the work of a terrorist and figured that the person they caught would be from somewhere else (McVeigh types are rare), so therefore, they didn't have to pass a law to ensure that their cops always asked citizenship questions of someone they perceived to be not from here.

    New York cops wait until an actual crime occurs, AZ cops don't.

    Ever see the movie "Minority Report"?
     
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    Prove it\

    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

    There is the bill. Show me where in the bill it gives the police the authority to question anyone without a law being broken first.

    I'll be here when you realize your wrong.
     

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