Scott Campbell Films Police Shooting At Occupy Oakland

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Lakhota, Nov 9, 2011.

  1. Lakhota
    Offline

    Lakhota Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    47,762
    Thanks Received:
    4,715
    Trophy Points:
    1,855
    Location:
    Native America
    Ratings:
    +16,056
    More: Scott Campbell Films Police Shooting At Occupy Oakland: Video Sparks National Outrage (VIDEO)

    [​IMG]

    VIDEO: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0pX9LeE-g8&feature=player_detailpage]Shot by police with rubber bullet at Occupy Oakland - YouTube[/ame]
     
  2. bucs90
    Offline

    bucs90 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2010
    Messages:
    26,548
    Thanks Received:
    5,995
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +19,210
    Hmm. Yeah, that looks kinda bad. He wasn't directly approaching the line, from what I saw. Can't see to his right, was there a line there that he was actually approaching? But, one thing is for sure- he wasn't walking away, creating distance from the police line, either.

    He chose to be there. He chose to get that close to a police riot line, in a riot zone, which is what it was. Protesters had become violent with throwing bottles, rocks and setting fires, committing vandalism. Riot teams show up not to cuddle and make people feel cozy. They're there to TAKE CONTROL of the city back.

    More of this, and they will take it back. Lesson is, stay away from police riot lines. If you see you are close to one, BACK AWAY, dont loiter around with a video camera and walk parrallel to it, or towards it.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  3. Lakhota
    Offline

    Lakhota Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    47,762
    Thanks Received:
    4,715
    Trophy Points:
    1,855
    Location:
    Native America
    Ratings:
    +16,056
    [​IMG]
     
  4. ladyliberal
    Offline

    ladyliberal Progressive Princess

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Messages:
    1,253
    Thanks Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +291
    If your point is that getting hurt was a reasonably predictable consequence, then I agree. If your point is that he deserved to be shot, then I disagree. People who are recording violent confrontations are performing a public service. I have no idea why the police apparently shot him. Perhaps there was something going on off-camera, but from the footage, it looked like the police may simply have been discouraging videotaping through rubber bullets. If so, their conduct was not merely deplorable but criminal.
     
  5. bucs90
    Offline

    bucs90 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2010
    Messages:
    26,548
    Thanks Received:
    5,995
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +19,210
    Thats correct about my point. Can't see what was to his immediate right. If the riot line was there to his right, and we cant see it, then he was encroaching on the line. But...we cant see, so no way to know that.

    Riot control is bad stuff. Case law has determined it has much more allowance for stuff that daily patrols would not. For example, if that street was being cleared, and the police made a loud, clear announcement for all pedestrians to "CLEAR WITHIN 5 MINUTES", and that guy was in the road or sidewalk to be cleared.......well, thats different. Once police announce to clear, and they have a set time and have announced it, anyone standing in the way is legally a target of less-lethal force to clear the area.

    Purely on the video, it looks bad though. He wasn't causing a threat, and cant see him approaching anything.

    But did cops make a "clear" announcement thats not on film? Were there cops to the right he was encroaching?

    Typically in these situations, the police also film all their actions. Would like to see video from start to finish.
     
  6. Lakhota
    Offline

    Lakhota Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    47,762
    Thanks Received:
    4,715
    Trophy Points:
    1,855
    Location:
    Native America
    Ratings:
    +16,056
    It takes courage to be a real patriot...

    [​IMG]
     
  7. bucs90
    Offline

    bucs90 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2010
    Messages:
    26,548
    Thanks Received:
    5,995
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +19,210
    YOu do know the men driving those tanks are being ordered to do so by a massive left wing gov't, the exact same ideology as the one OWS is striving to implement here?

    You DO know that, right?
     
  8. WatertheTree
    Offline

    WatertheTree Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2011
    Messages:
    1,804
    Thanks Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +167
    Fuck off partisan shitbrain. That clearly wasnt the message that was trying to be illustrated.

    Fucking Demublicans are so blind and stupid.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  9. Full-Auto
    Offline

    Full-Auto Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    13,555
    Thanks Received:
    1,614
    Trophy Points:
    153
    Ratings:
    +1,615
    They should be thankful it was just rubber. Real ones are allowed in putting down insurrections.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. WillowTree
    Offline

    WillowTree Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    68,192
    Thanks Received:
    10,174
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Ratings:
    +14,769
    You still have time to get out before the tank brigade finds you. Hurry now! Hurry!
     

Share This Page