Science of Pitch and Run! Playing the Infield.

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Baseball and politics are surprisingly similar....both have winners and losers, and, in both, everyone have a strong opinion.

Often lots of opinions.

But for a small fraction of us, we look for data, facts, and testable conclusions.
So, both baseball and politics enter the realm of science.
Robert Adair's application of quantification adds that overlay.




1.The speed at which a player throws the ball is not easy to come by for most positions, except for pitchers. From pitcher stats, we know that the difference in velocity of the fast ball can vary more than 10% between pitchers, with the best having a pitch that crosses the plate at about 95 mph. Of course, there are very good pitchers whose fast balls hit no more than 85 mph.

2. Although the "guns" of infielders has less in the way of statistical proof, we can assume that there are similar differences to those of pitchers. In general, a good "gun" is essential for third baseman, catchers, and shortstops. Even so, there is a big difference between good, and very good arms!

3. Say the difference between good, and very good arms is about 5%, where the very good arm released the ball with an initial velocity of 100 mph. Based on that, a ball thrown 135 feet by a shortstop or third baseman, to the first baseman, will take 1.09 seconds.

But, if the initial velocity is 5% less, it will take about 0.06 seconds longer to get to the first baseman's glove. During that time the fastest runners will have covered an extra 2 feet!





4. Here is the breakdown of the throw itself:
it takes about 0.9 seconds from the time the ball gets to the fielders glove to the beginning of his throw;
it takes about 0.10 second to throw the ball for all players.
So...if he can speed up his throw by 0.06 of a second with a quick release, he may be able to cut the deficit between a great arm and a good arm.




5. Timing is more critical for the double play. Start with the time for a speedster like Carl Lewis, who could cover the 90 feet from first to second in 3.5 seconds. Or...stealing bases, the 78 feet (assuming a lead of 12 feet) in 3.17 seconds.

OK...not fair: in baseball spikes and baseball uniform, we'll agree to the runner being 10% slower.

a. But- every three feet of lead is worth one-tenth of a second, and a rolling start gives him another half second. Of course, the pitcher is watching which foot he has his weight on...




6. Now, the pitcher:
delivery to the catcher's mitt takes about 0.45 seconds for a fast ball; add 0.03 seconds if the pitch is a slider (give the base runner an extra foot!); add 0.13 for a curve ball, and give that runner four feet!

a. With a runner on base, the pitcher is throwing from the stretch. We calculate the pitcher's throwing motion from the point where he can no longer stop, at about 0.8 seconds. This makes the time from stretch to catcher about 1.3 seconds. At best! Some pitchers are as much as 0.2 seconds slower....giving the runner six running feet!




7. If the catcher has a great gun, 100 mph initial velocity, the ball will cover the 128 feet to second base about 1.0 second after release. But add to this the throwing time the catcher needs.

a. So...pitcher throws a fast ball to catcher, catcher to second baseman, low and on the first base side of the bag, 1.3 + 2.0 = 3.3 seconds. Prefect play! Runner out!

8. But...fast runner, plus a good start (worth about 0.2 seconds)...and no one can catch him!

a. Or...if the throw is high, or slightly off....or if the defender has to move, the runner gains another two feet or more.




9. How about second to third steal? Well, the ball gets from the catcher to the third baseman about 0.3 seconds sooner...about ten feet for the runner. He better have a great lead!

10.Of course, the lead itself could depend on whether the pitcher is a lefty or a righty....
From Robert Adair's "The Physics of Baseball."



Yankees open April 1st!
 
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As a general rule, Liberals and Conservatives differ in the way to proceed. For Conservatives, data informs policy. (“More Guns, Less Crime” and “Mass murderers apparently can’t read, since they are constantly shooting up ‘gun-free zones.’”- Coulter)

We use Conservative principles to the best of our ability, but when confronting new and original venues, we believe in testing, and analysis of the results of the tests. For liberals, feeling passes for knowing; it is based on emotion often to the exclusion of thinking.

Therefore, more conservatives should be baseball fans than Liberals.....




According to Harris Poll, 41% of Republicans follow baseball, 35% of Democrats.
Harris Interactive: Harris Polls > For Tenth Time, New York Yankees are America?s Favorite Baseball Team
 
Science notwithstanding it's still a very boring game. Only good part is the big hits and homeruns, but when a sport includes the pitcher's no-hitter, all that means is you sat there for a few hours watching one team playing catch.
 
Science notwithstanding it's still a very boring game. Only good part is the big hits and homeruns, but when a sport includes the pitcher's no-hitter, all that means is you sat there for a few hours watching one team playing catch.



Well, that verifies post #2, doesn't it.
 
11. Who throws with greater velocity.....infielder or outfielder?

The answer is outfielder, with as much as a 10% increase over infielders. Why? Because they throw on the run, versus the infielder who pretty much throws from a set position. Inertia.



12. Hitting is more important criterion for judging an outfielder than his throwing arm is for a second baseman, shortstop or catcher. So, weak arms in the outfield are accepted if the fielder is a good hitter.



13. As a standard, an outfielder with a very good "gun" can hit 110 mph. Here is the important outcome: in a domed stadium (no wind consideration), an outfielder with only a moderate are, say 90 mph initial velocity, can throw it 310 feet in the air. But....the really good arm, 110 mph, can throw it from center field to home plate 400 feet away!!!
 
I agree that there are similarities to politics and baseball...... many people come to this political forum just to stand around, scratch their balls and heckle whoever is up to bat.
 
14. The critical scenario: last of the 9th, tie game, runner on third planning to tag up after a catch in the outfield! No plan to hit the cut-off man, this throw has to go to the catcher on a fly!

a. If the fielder can throw at 110 mph, his trajectory is going to be very low (about 13 degrees). The ball gets to the plate in 2.65 seconds; add the 0.6 seconds it takes to release he ball, it gets to the catcher in 3.25 seconds. Hardly any runners can tag up and reach home in less than 4 seconds. Out!

b. The fielder who throws at only 90 mph needs a pretty big arc (about 27.5 degrees), which means about a 10 % greater distance...the ball will take at least 4.4 seconds to reach the plate. Game over.

c. If the fielder can throw at 100 mph the ball gets to the plate in 3.1 seconds; add the 0.6 seconds it takes to release he ball, it gets to the catcher in 3.7 seconds. Runners can tag up and reach home safely unless the throw is perfect...or if the runner is slow.
 
There is a baseball team called the Yankees?? Didn't they change their name to the Dodgers???





Baseball is the thinking person's game.....

...it's not for you..


I realize you have trouble telling them apart....but you should stick to your Ant Farm and the Etch-A-Sketch.
 
Science notwithstanding it's still a very boring game. Only good part is the big hits and homeruns



Yeah, if you're a five year-old. Are you?



I actually believe that a five year-old would recognize the skill and athleticism to a greater degree than our pal.

In his case it's the peanuts and cracker jacks....
 
15. How about this plan?

Weak arm guy in the outfield might be better off throwing at a lower angle and looking for a bounce to the catcher. Not a bad idea if the surface is Astroturf, the gain might be as much as 0.2 seconds, or about six feet.



But...if the surface is grass....and the home team is one that relies on singles, speed and baserunning, their groundskeeper probably keeps the grass long and well watered. The ball will lose so much speed when it bounces, that weak arm remains a loser.
 
Google glasses for the team on the field. Calculates windage and optimal trajectory.. All players outfitted with GPS locators.. Allows pitcher to concentrate on the batter.. Speeds up the game. Catcher has instant Google access to total batter history.. Can text message pitcher via voice recognition S/W..

Scratch and spit alert shows up whenever network cameras are doing close-ups.. Can watch sports ticker for other game results during mound conferences and while substitutions are made..

Dont see a downside to this.. :Grin:
 
Google glasses for the team on the field. Calculates windage and optimal trajectory.. All players outfitted with GPS locators.. Allows pitcher to concentrate on the batter.. Speeds up the game. Catcher has instant Google access to total batter history.. Can text message pitcher via voice recognition S/W..

Scratch and spit alert shows up whenever network cameras are doing close-ups.. Can watch sports ticker for other game results during mound conferences and while substitutions are made..

Dont see a downside to this.. :Grin:



How about they play on the moon.....you could have a 550+ foot homerun!
 

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