Science moves closer to biblical creation.

[Woodznutz]

God created the material universe "out of thin air", that is, out of nothing (although there is more to the story than this). Science has moved closer to demonstrating this.

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[JohnA]

even if its proven you can make **something from nothing **does not prove the existance of god ..

 

[Blues Man]

All that proves is that a race with sufficient technology could have created the universe. No gods necessary.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Did you catch that....graphene.

I call BULLSHIT.

There's an agenda here and it aint science and it aint creation.

 

[Woodznutz]

even if its proven you can make **something from nothing **does not prove the existance of god ..

Those scientists didn't actually create something from nothing. They created something from electricity (which is still a mystery to science). They will likely soon admit that they now have more questions than answers.

 

[Woodznutz]

All that proves is that a race with sufficient technology could have created the universe. No gods necessary.

What it proves is that science has fallen yet deeper into its own rabbit hole.

 

[Woodznutz]

even if its proven you can make **something from nothing **does not prove the existance of god ..

God exists, no proof needed.

 

[Grumblenuts]

As Big Think reports, in early 2022, a group of researchers created strong enough electric fields in their laboratory to level the unique properties of a material known as graphene.

With these fields, the researchers were able to enable the spontaneous creation of particle-antiparticle pairs from nothing at all. This proved that creating matter from nothing is indeed possible, a theory first proposed by Julian Schwinger, one of the founders of quantum field theory. And with that knowledge, we can hopefully better understand how the universe makes something from nothing.

So with big magnets they managed to suck energy directly from counterspace which spontaneously transformed into matter just as it always does and has, the reverse being (spatial) matter reverting to its counterspatial energy equivalent. Curiously, they neglect to specify exactly what these so-called "particles" were other than calling them "particle-antiparticle pairs."

 

[Hollie]

God created the material universe "out of thin air", that is, out of nothing (although there is more to the story than this). Science has moved closer to demonstrating this.

MSN

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This would seem to prove the gods were never required as creationers from nothingness.

 

[Woodznutz]

This would seem to prove the gods were never required as creationers from nothingness.

The experiment is bogus. They are more confused now than they were before. They did admit the difficulty in making something from nothing, however. What the experiment suggests is that powerful lightning strikes created the universe. However, they didn't mention where the lightning came from.

 

[Blues Man]

What it proves is that science has fallen yet deeper into its own rabbit hole.

Just the opposite.

Science has demonstrated there is no need for a god for the universe to exist

 

[alang1216]

God created the material universe "out of thin air", that is, out of nothing (although there is more to the story than this). Science has moved closer to demonstrating this.

MSN may say it is from 'nothing' but I'd guess the scientists would say it is from the fields that make up the universe.

 

[Hollie]

The experiment is bogus. They are more confused now than they were before. They did admit the difficulty in making something from nothing, however. What the experiment suggests is that powerful lightning strikes created the universe. However, they didn't mention where the lightning came from.

How is the experiment bogus? Could you offer some specific information about the experiment to make your case? Could you comment on what aspects of the experiment that were bogus?

There was a specific reference to ''electric fields', not lightning. You didn't mention where the gods came from who invented lightning.

 

[abu afak]

All that proves is that a race with sufficient technology could have created the universe. No gods necessary.

And that of course just "kicks the can down the road."
Who 'created' "a race with sufficient technology"? Or should I say how did IT come to be?
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[Woodznutz]

Just the opposite.

Science has demonstrated there is no need for a god for the universe to exist

Science is the study of God's creation.

 

[Woodznutz]

How is the experiment bogus? Could you offer some specific information about the experiment to make your case? Could you comment on what aspects of the experiment that were bogus?

There was a specific reference to ''electric fields', not lightning. You didn't mention where the gods came from who invented lightning.

You're begging the question.

 

[Hollie]

You're begging the question.

I would propose you have that wrong. To assume three versions of one God as being responsible for all of the known and unknown universe, as opposed to all the other gods, leaves us with the obvious question, "suppose all of the gods invented by humans are no more real than the Munchkins living in Munchkin Country''?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Science has demonstrated there is no need for a god for the universe to exist

I'd say. Demonstrated for those who retain doubts (many) and for those who didn't already know that matter could be extracted from apparently "nothing" short of having a large bang! (most). Also, "a race with sufficient technology" goes nowhere as a logical substitute. Sure, with sufficient technology no doubt we could do mighty impressive things. But creating an entire universe where we became "a race" to begin with, no. Not without being anal retentive gods.

 

[Grumblenuts]

God created the material universe "out of thin air", that is, out of nothing (although there is more to the story than this). Science has moved closer to demonstrating this.

MSN

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You're the one begging the question, literally quoting your source saying "Scientists create matter from nothing" then changing the subject to "God created the material universe"... And though "thin air" is cliché, many don't appreciate the profound distinction at all. Air is mostly nitrogen and oxygen, i.e. gaseous matter including bugs. It's already "material"!

 

[alang1216]

Science is the study of God's creation.

Exactly wrong. If there were a creator God, he would be supernatural to have created the natural world, by definition. Science is restricted to the study of the natural world, NOT the supernatural one.