Science and Faith

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by Freeman, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. Freeman
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    This is a quote by honest swindler scientist:

    "There are only two possible explanations as to how life arose. Spontaneous generation arising to evolution or a supernatural creative act of God. . . . There is no other possibility. Spontaneous generation was scientifically disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others, but that just leaves us with only one other possibility. . . that life came as a supernatural act of creation by God, but I can’t accept that philosophy because I do not want to believe in God. Therefore I choose to believe in that which I know is scientifically impossible, spontaneous generation leading to evolution."-G. Wald, Frontiers of Modern Biology on Theories of Origin of Life, New York, Houghton Mifflin-Ventura, CA: Regal Books, 1996.

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    Got a cite for that "proof"? I would think, if it's worth its salt, you'd provide it. It's very telling that you didn't. You're playing with words. The spontaneous generation Pasteur talked about is totally different from that believed to have started life on earth.
     
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    Have you ever watched "The Universe?"

    Spontaneous Generation has already been proven in a Laboratory.
     
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    No it has not. Some of the underlying processes believed to lead to life have been proven, but the process has not.
     
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    Yes, it has. I'll fish the net for you if you're not willing to do it on your own accord. I saw the episode.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
     
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    I wonder what led the person quoted to believe they know the only two possibilities for the beginning of life?
     
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    You do realize that History channel also has shows about UFOs, ancient astronauts, and ghost, don't you? Just because you saw something on a show does not make it true.

    I do not know what you saw on that TV episode, but your own link proves me right.

     
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    What would be a third explanation? Either it started spontaneously, or something made it happen, I can't think of a third possibility.
     
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    Ooo! looks like he pwned you with the mighty "Wikipedia" Windbag! :uhoh3:
     
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    The postulation for life start at the atomic and molecular level began in the animo acids in a primordial pool, pond, swamp, whereby the spark that began cell division was instituted by electrical arcing of two cells into one, thus, beginning the repetition of division. There are three theories on this topic, all with the same hypothesis.

    Thus, the beginning as we understand it requires; warmth, water, O2, organic matter, electrical energy (lightning), and the condition for all to interact, at least twice, and away it goes.......

    Robert
     
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