Say goodbye to our two party system

[The Rabbi]

Why? Because you cannot??????

There is a percentage of right wingers who are racists - and then there are the additional wingers who pander to them while walking the razor's edge between covert and overt racism.

Really? What percentage would that be? Any evidence for what you say?
Let's call Jim DeMint one of the leaders of the right wing of the GOP. Do you have evidence De Mint ever called Obama a Muslim, a terrorist or a ******? If so please post it.
If not, stfu.

Yes, I do have evidence. In polling done after the election 16% of voters in West Virginia said race was a factor in their voting decision.

So why don't we just debate pertinant issues without the juvenile stfu stuff? Don't get mad at me because you're losing an argument!

Geez are you a mental midget or what?
First, we are discussing S.Carolina, not W.Virginia. I realize those probably sound the same to you, but they aren't.
Second, 6% of the state is non-white to begin with. Add another 10% suffering from white guilt and you get 16% voting FOR Obama because of race.
So why not STFU until you can read along with the adults?

 

[rightwinger]

Really? What percentage would that be? Any evidence for what you say?
Let's call Jim DeMint one of the leaders of the right wing of the GOP. Do you have evidence De Mint ever called Obama a Muslim, a terrorist or a ******? If so please post it.
If not, stfu.

Yes, I do have evidence. In polling done after the election 16% of voters in West Virginia said race was a factor in their voting decision.

So why don't we just debate pertinant issues without the juvenile stfu stuff? Don't get mad at me because you're losing an argument!

Geez are you a mental midget or what?
First, we are discussing S.Carolina, not W.Virginia. I realize those probably sound the same to you, but they aren't.
Second, 6% of the state is non-white to begin with. Add another 10% suffering from white guilt and you get 16% voting FOR Obama because of race.
So why not STFU until you can read along with the adults?

As a matter of fact, we were talking about Mr DeMint a certifiable nut job

Opposes gays and single mothers from teaching in public school
Undermined US foreign policy by visiting Honduras
After 50 years still thinks we should have school prayer

 

[Libertarian2009]

and what makes you think the left is pro american? already Obama has outspent Bush's 8 years of spending. If you ask me the left and the right are anti American. Marxism isn't the solution, Obama thinks it is. Bush thought Socialism was the answer, again another politician was wrong. The only thing that works in our country is putting the "people" in charge. That is patriotic.

Why don’t we do away with the two party system and only have a Constitutional party of our Republic? The right is to far right, the left is to far left the Independents fan far right and far left. After all do you think we would have a debt as high as it is now if we had people in Washington that cared for the "people"? Today and for many decades we've had a government that only does stuff for their party not for us the people.

Why not revamp Washington give our Government an Enema and go back to basics.
If you’re a politician, you get no pay, you work for the people not for the money..


Do you agree or disagree and why?

The right is so extreme and anti American. Can't compare the left to that mess.

 

[Libertarian2009]

"Sorry" for what? Do we not see eye to eye on just what the "base" of the GOP is these days? Are the tea party folks not the base? Are the folks who listen to and take talking points from the likes of Limbaugh, Beck and Hannity NOT the base of the modern day GOP? Please correct me in I am wrong here..

And all those people have called Obama a communist and a ******? Please. You are making excuses here for your own feeble mindedness. You made a charge that I called you on. If you can admit that no, not every person who identifies as a conservative thinks Obama is a communist, a Muslim, and a ******--or even a significant number of them, then we can have a conversation. Otherwise you are out in left field.

I agree 100% that not every person who identifies themselves as a conservative thinks Obama is a Communist, a ******, a terrorist or a Muslim.

I consider myself a conservative but I lean towards Librarian. I will never call Obama a ******, a threat to the United States? yes! and I say yes because he continues to spend money we don't have, just like Bush did. And for the record Obama isn't a communist, he's a Marxist that's communism and socialism mixed together. Obama has said on the news that he doesn't think our military is enough for this country, that we need another army as well. Anybody remember the black panthers back in the 60's?

 

[Libertarian2009]

You would first need to tell me who you believe the "leading figures in the conservative movement" are. Along these lines, what is "the conservative movement"?

I'll let you name them.

Why? Because you cannot??????

There is a percentage of right wingers who are racists - and then there are the additional wingers who pander to them while walking the razor's edge between covert and overt racism.

Can we not make this a racist threat on here? the majority of the people voted Obama in office, most of which were White and conservative.

 

[Libertarian2009]

Why don’t we do away with the two party system and only have a Constitutional party of our Republic? The right is to far right, the left is to far left the Independents fan far right and far left. After all do you think we would have a debt as high as it is now if we had people in Washington that cared for the "people"? Today and for many decades we've had a government that only does stuff for their party not for us the people.

Why not revamp Washington give our Government an Enema and go back to basics.
If you’re a politician, you get no pay, you work for the people not for the money..


Do you agree or disagree and why?

How to you suggest we 'do away' with political parties? Consider too that elected officals get more than pay, they get perks (I like to call them bribes). Ask yourself why so many members of Congress are millionaires? It's (clearly) not because they're smart.

Only solution to our problem is to "not reelect anyone" you get one term. Thats it. after that we vote for someone else.

 

[Libertarian2009]

Why don’t we do away with the two party system and only have a Constitutional party of our Republic? The right is to far right, the left is to far left the Independents fan far right and far left. After all do you think we would have a debt as high as it is now if we had people in Washington that cared for the "people"? Today and for many decades we've had a government that only does stuff for their party not for us the people.

Why not revamp Washington give our Government an Enema and go back to basics.
If you’re a politician, you get no pay, you work for the people not for the money..


Do you agree or disagree and why?

I agree. get rid of the two parties, in fact, get rid of all parties. My Congressional rep should only answer to his constituents, not to ADM if they give him a lot of campaign funds. If the current debates in DC aren't enough to convince people that those clowns in Washington place Party above people, I don't know what will.

Well said..

 

[rightwinger]

And all those people have called Obama a communist and a ******? Please. You are making excuses here for your own feeble mindedness. You made a charge that I called you on. If you can admit that no, not every person who identifies as a conservative thinks Obama is a communist, a Muslim, and a ******--or even a significant number of them, then we can have a conversation. Otherwise you are out in left field.

I agree 100% that not every person who identifies themselves as a conservative thinks Obama is a Communist, a ******, a terrorist or a Muslim.

I consider myself a conservative but I lean towards Librarian. I will never call Obama a ******, a threat to the United States? yes! and I say yes because he continues to spend money we don't have, just like Bush did. And for the record Obama isn't a communist, he's a Marxist that's communism and socialism mixed together. Obama has said on the news that he doesn't think our military is enough for this country, that we need another army as well. Anybody remember the black panthers back in the 60's?

I never knew Librarians had such bizarre political opinions

 

[Polk]

Who do you think "cares for the people"?? The Libtards? They are the most marginal of all marginal parties. They don't care for the people any more than Nancy Pelosi.
Bush wasn't "right"> Bush was a big government Republican in the mold of Nixon.

Yes, the party which after the last election now holds the White House, a twenty seat majority in the Senate, and 79 seat majority in the House (drawing almost three-fifths of the vote in House races) is a marginal party.

 

[Polk]

This is a right of center country with the MAJORITY near the center. That's why John McCain would have been good for this country. Others may disagree, but he is the type of politician most people claim they would like to see.

I disagree. McCain's BRAND is what most people claim they'd like to see. What they saw over the course of the last campaign is that McCain the Brand isn't McCain the Person.

 

[Polk]

Too old is a non-criticism. It's what people say when they can't think of anything else.
In fact until the economic crisis broke McCain was gaining in th epolls. I dont doubt that he would have been elected.
But econ is his worst area and he sounded like Obama-lite in the campaign.
I'm glad he lost only because it gives the GOP time out of power to consider what they need to be pushing. And McCain wasn't it.

He made mistakes speaking about the war, about Obama, his entire campaign was lame. Sarah Palin was saying all kinds of racist and ignorant things about Obama.

It was a failed campaign. They weren't coming back, it wasn't close. He won an electoral landslide.

You are wrong. McCain lost big. Palin played a big part in that loss. Their campaign smears and hate were unprecidented...

He was absolutely correct about the war in IRaq, Obama was absolutely wrong. His only mistake about Obama was not going after him hard enough on his lack of substance.
It was not a landslide on any measure, except that of hard core Obamanuts.
There was no hate, except by the Left against Palin, which hasn't abated any.

The lack of the substance charge would have been a hard one to make stick though, as Obama's campaign proposals on just about every issue imaginable were much more detailed that McCain's.

 

[Polk]

He was absolutely correct about the war in IRaq, Obama was absolutely wrong. His only mistake about Obama was not going after him hard enough on his lack of substance.
It was not a landslide on any measure, except that of hard core Obamanuts.
There was no hate, except by the Left against Palin, which hasn't abated any.

Are you serious? So all of the calls from the right, claiming Obama was a Mulsim, a terrorist, a ******, etc was NOT hate?

Who said these despicable things? Please show me one nationally syndicated columnist or radio show host or GOP politician who said any of these things.
You have made claims before and I called you on them and your answer is always silence.

Why do you need a columnist? Your VP nominee said one of the three (terrorist) and your nominee had warm-up speakers at his rallies claiming Obama was a Muslim.

 

[Old Rocks]

why don’t we do away with the two party system and only have a constitutional party of our republic? The right is to far right, the left is to far left the independents fan far right and far left. After all do you think we would have a debt as high as it is now if we had people in washington that cared for the "people"? Today and for many decades we've had a government that only does stuff for their party not for us the people.

Why not revamp washington give our government an enema and go back to basics.
If you’re a politician, you get no pay, you work for the people not for the money..


Do you agree or disagree and why?

the right is so extreme and anti american. Can't compare the left to that mess.

retard alert, retard alert.

Now RGT, we already know that you are here

 

[Polk]

I'll let you name them.

Why? Because you cannot??????

There is a percentage of right wingers who are racists - and then there are the additional wingers who pander to them while walking the razor's edge between covert and overt racism.

Really? What percentage would that be? Any evidence for what you say?
Let's call Jim DeMint one of the leaders of the right wing of the GOP. Do you have evidence De Mint ever called Obama a Muslim, a terrorist or a ******? If so please post it.
If not, stfu.

DeMint is too busy trying to undermine the nation's foreign affairs.

 

[The Rabbi]

Are you serious? So all of the calls from the right, claiming Obama was a Mulsim, a terrorist, a ******, etc was NOT hate?

Who said these despicable things? Please show me one nationally syndicated columnist or radio show host or GOP politician who said any of these things.
You have made claims before and I called you on them and your answer is always silence.

Why do you need a columnist? Your VP nominee said one of the three (terrorist) and your nominee had warm-up speakers at his rallies claiming Obama was a Muslim.

Any proof for that?

 

[The Rabbi]

Why? Because you cannot??????

There is a percentage of right wingers who are racists - and then there are the additional wingers who pander to them while walking the razor's edge between covert and overt racism.

Really? What percentage would that be? Any evidence for what you say?
Let's call Jim DeMint one of the leaders of the right wing of the GOP. Do you have evidence De Mint ever called Obama a Muslim, a terrorist or a ******? If so please post it.
If not, stfu.

DeMint is too busy trying to undermine the nation's foreign affairs.

By going on fact-finding missions? Like Pelosi did? Like all congressional reps do from time to time?
By going to a country trying to resist a Chavez style dictatorship, one supported by Obama against the democratically elected legislature, which kicked out the dictator by constitutional means?
You mean that now constitutes undermining the nation's foreign affairs? Because if so we need more people undermining them.

 

[Polk]

Who said these despicable things? Please show me one nationally syndicated columnist or radio show host or GOP politician who said any of these things.
You have made claims before and I called you on them and your answer is always silence.

Why do you need a columnist? Your VP nominee said one of the three (terrorist) and your nominee had warm-up speakers at his rallies claiming Obama was a Muslim.

Any proof for that?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezkJ3zUJ_RI"]Palin: Obama Paling Around With Terrorists[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_SSTbabhL8"]Bill Cunningham's "Hussein" Rant at a McCain Rally[/ame]

 

[Polk]

Really? What percentage would that be? Any evidence for what you say?
Let's call Jim DeMint one of the leaders of the right wing of the GOP. Do you have evidence De Mint ever called Obama a Muslim, a terrorist or a ******? If so please post it.
If not, stfu.

DeMint is too busy trying to undermine the nation's foreign affairs.

By going on fact-finding missions? Like Pelosi did? Like all congressional reps do from time to time?
By going to a country trying to resist a Chavez style dictatorship, one supported by Obama against the democratically elected legislature, which kicked out the dictator by constitutional means?
You mean that now constitutes undermining the nation's foreign affairs? Because if so we need more people undermining them.

He isn't simply going on a fact-finding mission. He's going to support a military coup. Obama isn't supporting a dictatorship, DeMint is. Or do you consider overthrowing a legitimately elected president so that the military can insert a puppet ruler to be democracy?

 

[The Rabbi]

DeMint is too busy trying to undermine the nation's foreign affairs.

By going on fact-finding missions? Like Pelosi did? Like all congressional reps do from time to time?
By going to a country trying to resist a Chavez style dictatorship, one supported by Obama against the democratically elected legislature, which kicked out the dictator by constitutional means?
You mean that now constitutes undermining the nation's foreign affairs? Because if so we need more people undermining them.

He isn't simply going on a fact-finding mission. He's going to support a military coup. Obama isn't supporting a dictatorship, DeMint is. Or do you consider overthrowing a legitimately elected president so that the military can insert a puppet ruler to be democracy?

You must not read the papers much.
Zelaya was attempting an end run around the constitution. The supreme court ruled against him. He threatened to use the military and the congress kicked him out. Zelaya is the dictator. He is Chavez's man there.
As to Palin, too bad you still haven't provided proof of what you allege.

 

[Polk]

Zelaya did not threaten to use the military. The military was actively involved in the plot to throw them out of office.

Re: Palin. I posted the video. If you're too lazy to watch it, that's not my problem.