SwingVoter
VIP Member
This nation is 80% Christian.
which is why this will backfire on the people attacking Palin
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
This nation is 80% Christian.
You might not agree with Palin, nor the poster, but God most certainly used wars to His own end. The Old Testament is full of them.
The there is the fact that you presume to speak for God .....
Here's George Carlin view on the matter (This is not the exact quote but what I can best remember).
"We pray to god, they pray to god; someone's going to be disappointed."
George Carlin is right in this aspect. Both sides pray to God but only one side can win. So does that mean God loves one side more then the other? If so, then what about how God loves all his children?
Point being, if you do believe in God that praying for your side to win in War does nothing except give you a little more faith that you might get through the current battle alive.
Not saying it's wrong to pray to win in war, but thats just the truth of the matter.
No I dont obviously speak for God or I would not be here posting but either does Palen. She says "pray that our leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That is very simple to interpret. 1.She is praying like crazy that hopefully God thinks going to war is the right thing to do . She is basically saying that she doesnt know if its right but she prays that it is.
Just in case it's not stuck in the back of your mind somewhere that I told you earlier this evening there was no discussing Obama's religion without the wingnuts going rabid, let me reiterate that observation and apply it as well to Palin.
No I dont obviously speak for God or I would not be here posting but either does Palen. She says "pray that our leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That is very simple to interpret. 1.She is praying like crazy that hopefully God thinks going to war is the right thing to do . She is basically saying that she doesnt know if its right but she prays that it is.
Gott mit uns.
and the problem with that is--??
A decision was made--she is hoping it was the right one.
This is opposed to
A decision was made-----and people work as hard as they can to sabotage it and enjoy when it fails.
Pastor: GOP may be downplaying Palin's religious beliefs - CNN.com
Quite the interesting article.
Thoughts? Opinions?
I haven't seen this posted here yet so I figured I'd do the honors.
What the heck is wrong with you people. The Quote is.....""Pray for our military men and women who are striving do to what is right. Also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for -- that there is a plan, and that plan is God's plan."
She is saying pray that "our leaders , our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God" thats crazy, God doesnt want war and thats takes the cake for the most stupid thing I have heard come from her mouth. She better pray that God forgives us for going to war, thats what I would like to hear. If she actually thinks that Gods plan is war than I think she is crazy.
You know, I have to agree with you here.
I mean, if after 5 - 6 years of the war you are praying that it was God's plan, well I mean isn't that a little late? Isn't time to roll up your sleeves and get to work on it, instead of leaving it in God's hands? Maybe God is waiting for you to start applying some peace and compassion instead of bluster and swagger?
I dunno, it still is a little disturbing, though I am glad she has said that she won't force her beliefs on others. I do hope this gets addressed.
Pastor: GOP may be downplaying Palin's religious beliefs - CNN.com
Quite the interesting article.
Thoughts? Opinions?
I haven't seen this posted here yet so I figured I'd do the honors.
It's never too late. Might have been over a lot sooner if so many Americans didnt bug out. Immediate gratification is hollow.
We were misled. I never wanted to go to war, I never believed Bush, he was shifty from day one. But that aside, Cheney and Rumsfeld talked about how it would be over in a matter of months.
We named three countries in the "axis of evil" and went for the smallest billy goat and still got trounced. Bush didn't take into account all the intricacies of foreign cultures, tribal cultures, etc, whatever -
Anyway, I can see praying that it is God's will when Bush ordered the invasion. After a couple years, not so much - at that point, when the whole basis for the pre-emptive invasion turns out to be cherry-picked intelligence (and lies, eg yellowacke) and the whole thing is a horrible mess to boot, you know if she is still praying that this is God's plan, well I guess bully for her but I'd rather have a leader that said "You know, we could learn something from this."
What the heck is wrong with you people. The Quote is.....""Pray for our military men and women who are striving do to what is right. Also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for -- that there is a plan, and that plan is God's plan."
She is saying pray that "our leaders , our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God" thats crazy, God doesnt want war and thats takes the cake for the most stupid thing I have heard come from her mouth. She better pray that God forgives us for going to war, thats what I would like to hear. If she actually thinks that Gods plan is war than I think she is crazy.
which is why this will backfire on the people attacking Palin
You speak for God now? God is always a pacifist no matter what the circumstances you think?
Think there is a Commandment that says "No going to war unless your enemy has already invaded your lands, at least killed many of your own people -and absolutely no pre-emptive strikes allowed so they can't come after you at all"? Might want to check out the Bible again -plenty of wars in it that were clearly part of God's plans. Might want to check out what God told the Jews about how to take possession of the Promised Land when they finally reached it -and it was occupied already. It wasn't by negotiation.
Might want to take another look at Ecclesiastes 3:
1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 a time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 a time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
And check out the Book of Revelation regarding a really big war and see whether its part of God's plan or not.
Palin prayed that what our leaders were doing was part of God's plan, knowing full well that God's plans cannot be known by man -and that sometimes as horrible as it can be, war really is part of His plan. So she was praying that we were doing God's will. And considering that, who in their right mind would pray it wasn't?
Maybe you have this idea that God is some kind of warm, fuzzy, touchy-feely amorphous "pure love" kind of thing or something. The Bible says that above all, God is JUST. And being just isn't always warm and fuzzy, is it?
Gott mit uns.