Ryan / Washington Establishment GOP Serve Up a Slice of 'F* YOU' Budget Pie to Trump

[debbiedowner]

Q: What does Caitlyn Jenner and Paul Ryan, and the Washington Establishment GOP have in common?

A: NONE of them have any B@LLS


Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and the rest of the Washington Establishment GOP absolutely HATE being in power, especially being in control of BOTH houses of Congress. They HATE having to lead, something they are both too incompetent and too frightened / gutless to do.

How else can you explain how they can control both the House and the Senate while having a Republican President and STILL rolling over with their legs spread to humiliated, diminished, depleted, minority part Democrats, giving them everything THEY want in the budget (No money for the wall, No cuts to sanctuary cities, Funding for Planned Parenthood)?



How else can you explain it? I've got one idea:


Most people always assume there is a huge moral, ethical, and ideological difference between Democrats and Republican POLITICIANS. There's NOT.

No matter which party is in power for decades now, no matter which party's politicians are in the minority, the Liberal agenda continues to advance, always moving forward. Oh, Conservatives score little victories every now and then, like defeating Hillary Clinton to win the Presidency. Having control of the House, the Senate, and the White house should be a HUGE victory.

Throw in the fact that the Democratic party is IMPLODING - 1,000+ seats/election lost in 8 years, back-to-back historic record-setting elections, deplorable seditious acts of violence / calls for military coups / Presidential assassination, exposed as having perpetrated Felony Espionage in an attempt to undermine and/or overthrow the newly elected President, and the attest revelation of how they created the entire 'Trump-Russia Collusion'' story to escape their shame from Hillary losing again and the DNC-Debbie Wasserman-Schultz Pakistani spy scandal that was yet another SELF-INFLICTED WOUND, and the GOP should be bitch-slapping the Democrats on Capitol hill while having their way with them right now.

Instead, the GOP leadership, under Paul Ryan, is getting ready to present the only budget option as one that mentions no spending on THE WALL, has no mention of cuts to sanctuary Cities, and funds the Liberal 'Baby-Murder Mill', Planned Parenthood. It was as if, despite controlling all of Congress, Ryan just 'dropped trou', bent over his desk, and offered his ass up to Nancy Pelosi.

WHY?

1. GOP Leadership - the same old Washington Establishment GOP that continues to run the GOP, despite the movement and agenda the people supported by / when they elected trump, wants the same thing the Liberal Democrats want - they support the Liberal Democrat agenda. This partly explains why they TALK a good game, vote hundreds of times to repeal/replace the ACA when it doesn't count and folds when it does, for example. It partly explains why they never put up a fight, never stand up for what the people really want, and always - in the end - push and pass the Liberal snowflake agenda. Conservatives - even now, after winning the House, Senate, and the WH - have been betrayed!

2. Ryan and the Washington Establishment GOP - who never liked Trump, who tried to destroy Trump in the primaries, and who even now publicly oppose him - is going along with the Democrats to undermine and oppose what Trump and the American people who elected him want him to accomplish.

Smaller, less controlling government is bad for Ryan and the professional politicians. They love the status quo. They have established their own political Utopia in which they enrich themselves, Un-Constitutionally Exempt themselves from laws they don't even like, and are able to avoid nasty things like being indicted and actually punished for crimes. Trump is just as much their enemy as he is to the snowflakes.

The ONLY explanation for why Ryan could for one second believe that Trump would be / is going to be 'ok' with accepting any such budget as THIS one - which amounts to Ryan giving Trump the finger right in front of his face - is that Ryan does not give a damn what Trump wants and is openly defying / undermining him, even to the point of working with the Democrats and giving them what they want.

This reported budget Ryan is about to present to the Senate and to Trump is proof, IMO, that Ryan is a traitor and is openly, publicly, defiantly serving up a big ol' slice of 'F* YOU' Pie to Trump, leaving no doubt in anyone's mind - especially Trump's - as to where he stands.

NO MATTER WHAT ONE THING IS FOR SURE, IF YOU AGREE WITH NOTHING ELSE IN THIS POST:

IF THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, THAT GIVES THE DEMOCRATS EVERYTHING THEY WANT WHILE UNDERMINING THE PRESIDENT'S ABILITY TO KEEP HIS PROMISES, IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE BEST PAUL RYAN CAN DO -WITH THE GOP HAVING CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, HAVING CONTROL OF THE SENATE, AND HAVING A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE - RYAN IS A PATHETIC, INCOMPETENT POLITICAN WHO WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LEAD OR ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING, AND HE NEEDS TO GO IMMEDIATELY.

What a TRAITOR! He is and has always been nothing but Boehner's 'Sith Apprentice'!

Bored with winning: New spending bill has no money for the wall, no cuts to sanctuary cities, funding for Planned Parenthood - Hot Air

But...Trump is tired of winning, you see.

He is Tired and I doubt he will stay in office 4 years, I'm thinking he will tire of it and just resign.

Actually, based on his comment of how tough the job is (which I don't think he expected), I doubt he will run for a 2nd term.

Hell I bet he's wondering when I good time to resign would be. He just doesn't like it and didn't realize working with politician's was not the business world.

 

[debbiedowner]

They did not. What gave Trump the win was the fact that he was not Clinton. A large portion of both Clinton's and Trump's support was a vote against the other candidate not a vote for their candidate.

I agree with you, but many Americans did like some of Trump's message...such as 'drain the swamp'. IMO Americans are tired of lying, self-serving politicians....one of whom, as revealed, is Ryan.

If was referring to congress as draining the swamp, the voter's should have taken care of that, but most of the swamp ran on repealing ACA so voted them back in. When are the voter's going to see through the campaign lies?

 

[debbiedowner]

3 of 4 Americans do not want ACA repealed.

outright lie

Republicans Stunned As 67% Of Americans Oppose Obamacare Repeal In New Poll

DD, of course most Americans CURRENTLY don't want to see the ACA go away... Obama destroyed the existing health care system, leaving for most rhe ACA as the only insurance. It was MANDATED - Democrats / Obama, by law, gave the people no option but to buy it or be punished by their govt.

That is a stupid comment. If you look at what is the most popular about Obamacare there are a few things.

First there are the subsidies to low income people. Voters do not believe people should lose insurance because they cannot afford it. Besides when people put something off, it means they go to the emergency room which is more expensive. Also it is likely the condition becomes more expensive to treat. Interestingly enough the Freedom Caucus complains about it becoming a entitlement yet the Republican alternative contains subsidies that more resemble entitlements.

Second people with health conditions that are no fault of their own. Voters support that. Republicans would push that to the states and not provide enough money so some people will be either kicked out or anyone with a pre-existing condition will suffer.

There is a reason Democrats had to ram a minority-supported piece of Socialist-agenda legislation down the throats of the majority of Americans who opposed it in the wee hours of the morning before anyone knew what was going on.... There was a reason Democrats told the American people they had no right to read the legislation until the 'edict' had been forced into law.

You're right, but why hasn't Ryan and the rest of congress read it? They have had 7 years.

 

[LaDexter]

Paul Ryan IS the "swamp."

 

[Dschrute3]

Neither Party wants to be the one to face the harsh massive Debt reality. They don't wanna be the one to significantly cut spending. So they just kick the can down the road again. I mean forget about cutting spending, they can't even maintain spending at a set level. They consistently increase spending.

But increased spending at a time we're a staggering $20 Trillion in Debt? Pretty crazy. It's so shockingly irresponsible. Both Parties are 'Big Government' Parties. There is no 'Small/Less Government' Party anymore. That's the sad reality.

 

[LaDexter]

Really, both parties are 100% sold out to Zionism parties, and do not care about the US at all.

 

[JakeStarkey]

^^^

 

[Dragonlady]

Ryan needs bounced and replaced with Rand Paul or Ted Cruze, and I really don't like Cruze too much, but he or Paul would try to do the right things. Ryan has no balls, and is a poor house speaker.

And it's ridiculous that we can't seem to keep the government funded, which is entirely due to a thousands of Special Interest expenditures.

Cruz and Paul are SENATORS, and therefore not eligible to be Speaker of the HOUSE.

 

[bripat9643]

Q: What does Caitlyn Jenner and Paul Ryan, and the Washington Establishment GOP have in common?

A: NONE of them have any B@LLS


Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and the rest of the Washington Establishment GOP absolutely HATE being in power, especially being in control of BOTH houses of Congress. They HATE having to lead, something they are both too incompetent and too frightened / gutless to do.

How else can you explain how they can control both the House and the Senate while having a Republican President and STILL rolling over with their legs spread to humiliated, diminished, depleted, minority part Democrats, giving them everything THEY want in the budget (No money for the wall, No cuts to sanctuary cities, Funding for Planned Parenthood)?



How else can you explain it? I've got one idea:


Most people always assume there is a huge moral, ethical, and ideological difference between Democrats and Republican POLITICIANS. There's NOT.

No matter which party is in power for decades now, no matter which party's politicians are in the minority, the Liberal agenda continues to advance, always moving forward. Oh, Conservatives score little victories every now and then, like defeating Hillary Clinton to win the Presidency. Having control of the House, the Senate, and the White house should be a HUGE victory.

Throw in the fact that the Democratic party is IMPLODING - 1,000+ seats/election lost in 8 years, back-to-back historic record-setting elections, deplorable seditious acts of violence / calls for military coups / Presidential assassination, exposed as having perpetrated Felony Espionage in an attempt to undermine and/or overthrow the newly elected President, and the attest revelation of how they created the entire 'Trump-Russia Collusion'' story to escape their shame from Hillary losing again and the DNC-Debbie Wasserman-Schultz Pakistani spy scandal that was yet another SELF-INFLICTED WOUND, and the GOP should be bitch-slapping the Democrats on Capitol hill while having their way with them right now.

Instead, the GOP leadership, under Paul Ryan, is getting ready to present the only budget option as one that mentions no spending on THE WALL, has no mention of cuts to sanctuary Cities, and funds the Liberal 'Baby-Murder Mill', Planned Parenthood. It was as if, despite controlling all of Congress, Ryan just 'dropped trou', bent over his desk, and offered his ass up to Nancy Pelosi.

WHY?

1. GOP Leadership - the same old Washington Establishment GOP that continues to run the GOP, despite the movement and agenda the people supported by / when they elected trump, wants the same thing the Liberal Democrats want - they support the Liberal Democrat agenda. This partly explains why they TALK a good game, vote hundreds of times to repeal/replace the ACA when it doesn't count and folds when it does, for example. It partly explains why they never put up a fight, never stand up for what the people really want, and always - in the end - push and pass the Liberal snowflake agenda. Conservatives - even now, after winning the House, Senate, and the WH - have been betrayed!

2. Ryan and the Washington Establishment GOP - who never liked Trump, who tried to destroy Trump in the primaries, and who even now publicly oppose him - is going along with the Democrats to undermine and oppose what Trump and the American people who elected him want him to accomplish.

Smaller, less controlling government is bad for Ryan and the professional politicians. They love the status quo. They have established their own political Utopia in which they enrich themselves, Un-Constitutionally Exempt themselves from laws they don't even like, and are able to avoid nasty things like being indicted and actually punished for crimes. Trump is just as much their enemy as he is to the snowflakes.

The ONLY explanation for why Ryan could for one second believe that Trump would be / is going to be 'ok' with accepting any such budget as THIS one - which amounts to Ryan giving Trump the finger right in front of his face - is that Ryan does not give a damn what Trump wants and is openly defying / undermining him, even to the point of working with the Democrats and giving them what they want.

This reported budget Ryan is about to present to the Senate and to Trump is proof, IMO, that Ryan is a traitor and is openly, publicly, defiantly serving up a big ol' slice of 'F* YOU' Pie to Trump, leaving no doubt in anyone's mind - especially Trump's - as to where he stands.

NO MATTER WHAT ONE THING IS FOR SURE, IF YOU AGREE WITH NOTHING ELSE IN THIS POST:

IF THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, THAT GIVES THE DEMOCRATS EVERYTHING THEY WANT WHILE UNDERMINING THE PRESIDENT'S ABILITY TO KEEP HIS PROMISES, IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE BEST PAUL RYAN CAN DO -WITH THE GOP HAVING CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, HAVING CONTROL OF THE SENATE, AND HAVING A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE - RYAN IS A PATHETIC, INCOMPETENT POLITICAN WHO WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LEAD OR ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING, AND HE NEEDS TO GO IMMEDIATELY.

What a TRAITOR! He is and has always been nothing but Boehner's 'Sith Apprentice'!

Bored with winning: New spending bill has no money for the wall, no cuts to sanctuary cities, funding for Planned Parenthood - Hot Air

But...Trump is tired of winning, you see.

He is Tired and I doubt he will stay in office 4 years, I'm thinking he will tire of it and just resign.

Actually, based on his comment of how tough the job is (which I don't think he expected), I doubt he will run for a 2nd term.

Hell I bet he's wondering when I good time to resign would be. He just doesn't like it and didn't realize working with politician's was not the business world.

I love the way you douche bags believe you know what Trump is thinking.

 

[debbiedowner]

Q: What does Caitlyn Jenner and Paul Ryan, and the Washington Establishment GOP have in common?

A: NONE of them have any B@LLS


Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and the rest of the Washington Establishment GOP absolutely HATE being in power, especially being in control of BOTH houses of Congress. They HATE having to lead, something they are both too incompetent and too frightened / gutless to do.

How else can you explain how they can control both the House and the Senate while having a Republican President and STILL rolling over with their legs spread to humiliated, diminished, depleted, minority part Democrats, giving them everything THEY want in the budget (No money for the wall, No cuts to sanctuary cities, Funding for Planned Parenthood)?



How else can you explain it? I've got one idea:


Most people always assume there is a huge moral, ethical, and ideological difference between Democrats and Republican POLITICIANS. There's NOT.

No matter which party is in power for decades now, no matter which party's politicians are in the minority, the Liberal agenda continues to advance, always moving forward. Oh, Conservatives score little victories every now and then, like defeating Hillary Clinton to win the Presidency. Having control of the House, the Senate, and the White house should be a HUGE victory.

Throw in the fact that the Democratic party is IMPLODING - 1,000+ seats/election lost in 8 years, back-to-back historic record-setting elections, deplorable seditious acts of violence / calls for military coups / Presidential assassination, exposed as having perpetrated Felony Espionage in an attempt to undermine and/or overthrow the newly elected President, and the attest revelation of how they created the entire 'Trump-Russia Collusion'' story to escape their shame from Hillary losing again and the DNC-Debbie Wasserman-Schultz Pakistani spy scandal that was yet another SELF-INFLICTED WOUND, and the GOP should be bitch-slapping the Democrats on Capitol hill while having their way with them right now.

Instead, the GOP leadership, under Paul Ryan, is getting ready to present the only budget option as one that mentions no spending on THE WALL, has no mention of cuts to sanctuary Cities, and funds the Liberal 'Baby-Murder Mill', Planned Parenthood. It was as if, despite controlling all of Congress, Ryan just 'dropped trou', bent over his desk, and offered his ass up to Nancy Pelosi.

WHY?

1. GOP Leadership - the same old Washington Establishment GOP that continues to run the GOP, despite the movement and agenda the people supported by / when they elected trump, wants the same thing the Liberal Democrats want - they support the Liberal Democrat agenda. This partly explains why they TALK a good game, vote hundreds of times to repeal/replace the ACA when it doesn't count and folds when it does, for example. It partly explains why they never put up a fight, never stand up for what the people really want, and always - in the end - push and pass the Liberal snowflake agenda. Conservatives - even now, after winning the House, Senate, and the WH - have been betrayed!

2. Ryan and the Washington Establishment GOP - who never liked Trump, who tried to destroy Trump in the primaries, and who even now publicly oppose him - is going along with the Democrats to undermine and oppose what Trump and the American people who elected him want him to accomplish.

Smaller, less controlling government is bad for Ryan and the professional politicians. They love the status quo. They have established their own political Utopia in which they enrich themselves, Un-Constitutionally Exempt themselves from laws they don't even like, and are able to avoid nasty things like being indicted and actually punished for crimes. Trump is just as much their enemy as he is to the snowflakes.

The ONLY explanation for why Ryan could for one second believe that Trump would be / is going to be 'ok' with accepting any such budget as THIS one - which amounts to Ryan giving Trump the finger right in front of his face - is that Ryan does not give a damn what Trump wants and is openly defying / undermining him, even to the point of working with the Democrats and giving them what they want.

This reported budget Ryan is about to present to the Senate and to Trump is proof, IMO, that Ryan is a traitor and is openly, publicly, defiantly serving up a big ol' slice of 'F* YOU' Pie to Trump, leaving no doubt in anyone's mind - especially Trump's - as to where he stands.

NO MATTER WHAT ONE THING IS FOR SURE, IF YOU AGREE WITH NOTHING ELSE IN THIS POST:

IF THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, THAT GIVES THE DEMOCRATS EVERYTHING THEY WANT WHILE UNDERMINING THE PRESIDENT'S ABILITY TO KEEP HIS PROMISES, IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE BEST PAUL RYAN CAN DO -WITH THE GOP HAVING CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, HAVING CONTROL OF THE SENATE, AND HAVING A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE - RYAN IS A PATHETIC, INCOMPETENT POLITICAN WHO WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LEAD OR ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING, AND HE NEEDS TO GO IMMEDIATELY.

What a TRAITOR! He is and has always been nothing but Boehner's 'Sith Apprentice'!

Bored with winning: New spending bill has no money for the wall, no cuts to sanctuary cities, funding for Planned Parenthood - Hot Air

But...Trump is tired of winning, you see.

He is Tired and I doubt he will stay in office 4 years, I'm thinking he will tire of it and just resign.

Actually, based on his comment of how tough the job is (which I don't think he expected), I doubt he will run for a 2nd term.

Hell I bet he's wondering when I good time to resign would be. He just doesn't like it and didn't realize working with politician's was not the business world.

I love the way you douche bags believe you know what Trump is thinking.

Don't see any difference in how you douche bags Trump thinks. Do you have his thoughts cornered?

 

[bripat9643]

Q: What does Caitlyn Jenner and Paul Ryan, and the Washington Establishment GOP have in common?

A: NONE of them have any B@LLS


Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and the rest of the Washington Establishment GOP absolutely HATE being in power, especially being in control of BOTH houses of Congress. They HATE having to lead, something they are both too incompetent and too frightened / gutless to do.

How else can you explain how they can control both the House and the Senate while having a Republican President and STILL rolling over with their legs spread to humiliated, diminished, depleted, minority part Democrats, giving them everything THEY want in the budget (No money for the wall, No cuts to sanctuary cities, Funding for Planned Parenthood)?



How else can you explain it? I've got one idea:


Most people always assume there is a huge moral, ethical, and ideological difference between Democrats and Republican POLITICIANS. There's NOT.

No matter which party is in power for decades now, no matter which party's politicians are in the minority, the Liberal agenda continues to advance, always moving forward. Oh, Conservatives score little victories every now and then, like defeating Hillary Clinton to win the Presidency. Having control of the House, the Senate, and the White house should be a HUGE victory.

Throw in the fact that the Democratic party is IMPLODING - 1,000+ seats/election lost in 8 years, back-to-back historic record-setting elections, deplorable seditious acts of violence / calls for military coups / Presidential assassination, exposed as having perpetrated Felony Espionage in an attempt to undermine and/or overthrow the newly elected President, and the attest revelation of how they created the entire 'Trump-Russia Collusion'' story to escape their shame from Hillary losing again and the DNC-Debbie Wasserman-Schultz Pakistani spy scandal that was yet another SELF-INFLICTED WOUND, and the GOP should be bitch-slapping the Democrats on Capitol hill while having their way with them right now.

Instead, the GOP leadership, under Paul Ryan, is getting ready to present the only budget option as one that mentions no spending on THE WALL, has no mention of cuts to sanctuary Cities, and funds the Liberal 'Baby-Murder Mill', Planned Parenthood. It was as if, despite controlling all of Congress, Ryan just 'dropped trou', bent over his desk, and offered his ass up to Nancy Pelosi.

WHY?

1. GOP Leadership - the same old Washington Establishment GOP that continues to run the GOP, despite the movement and agenda the people supported by / when they elected trump, wants the same thing the Liberal Democrats want - they support the Liberal Democrat agenda. This partly explains why they TALK a good game, vote hundreds of times to repeal/replace the ACA when it doesn't count and folds when it does, for example. It partly explains why they never put up a fight, never stand up for what the people really want, and always - in the end - push and pass the Liberal snowflake agenda. Conservatives - even now, after winning the House, Senate, and the WH - have been betrayed!

2. Ryan and the Washington Establishment GOP - who never liked Trump, who tried to destroy Trump in the primaries, and who even now publicly oppose him - is going along with the Democrats to undermine and oppose what Trump and the American people who elected him want him to accomplish.

Smaller, less controlling government is bad for Ryan and the professional politicians. They love the status quo. They have established their own political Utopia in which they enrich themselves, Un-Constitutionally Exempt themselves from laws they don't even like, and are able to avoid nasty things like being indicted and actually punished for crimes. Trump is just as much their enemy as he is to the snowflakes.

The ONLY explanation for why Ryan could for one second believe that Trump would be / is going to be 'ok' with accepting any such budget as THIS one - which amounts to Ryan giving Trump the finger right in front of his face - is that Ryan does not give a damn what Trump wants and is openly defying / undermining him, even to the point of working with the Democrats and giving them what they want.

This reported budget Ryan is about to present to the Senate and to Trump is proof, IMO, that Ryan is a traitor and is openly, publicly, defiantly serving up a big ol' slice of 'F* YOU' Pie to Trump, leaving no doubt in anyone's mind - especially Trump's - as to where he stands.

NO MATTER WHAT ONE THING IS FOR SURE, IF YOU AGREE WITH NOTHING ELSE IN THIS POST:

IF THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, THAT GIVES THE DEMOCRATS EVERYTHING THEY WANT WHILE UNDERMINING THE PRESIDENT'S ABILITY TO KEEP HIS PROMISES, IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE BEST PAUL RYAN CAN DO -WITH THE GOP HAVING CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, HAVING CONTROL OF THE SENATE, AND HAVING A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE - RYAN IS A PATHETIC, INCOMPETENT POLITICAN WHO WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LEAD OR ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING, AND HE NEEDS TO GO IMMEDIATELY.

What a TRAITOR! He is and has always been nothing but Boehner's 'Sith Apprentice'!

Bored with winning: New spending bill has no money for the wall, no cuts to sanctuary cities, funding for Planned Parenthood - Hot Air

But...Trump is tired of winning, you see.

He is Tired and I doubt he will stay in office 4 years, I'm thinking he will tire of it and just resign.

Actually, based on his comment of how tough the job is (which I don't think he expected), I doubt he will run for a 2nd term.

Hell I bet he's wondering when I good time to resign would be. He just doesn't like it and didn't realize working with politician's was not the business world.

Working with politicians is like working with bottom of the barrel street pimps. Why would anyone like that?

 

[easyt65]

The Fact is Paul Ryan and the same ol' piss-poor, POS Republican core leaders lied to the American people and just F*ed both Trump and the American people.

Ryan, McConnell, and a few others promised the American people that the last CR was being passed but when the GOP held both branches of Congress and the WH they would stand and fight for the budget. Well, the GOP holds the House, the Senate, and the WH...and Ryan just agreed to another CR that gives the Democrats everything they want.

NOW Ryan is saying 'Now is not the time - we are giving the Democrats everything they want in this CR now, but we intend to fight for the budget next September'. Yeah, we have heard that one before, Mr. Ryan. Have YOU ever heard this one: 'Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME'?!

Ryan, McConnell, and the others who lied to the American people and just F*ed them again have proven they are cut from the same 'Liar's Cloth' as Bill Clinton and Barak Obama.

I hope these SOB's get voted out of office the very next chance we get. The Democrats, of course, should want them to stay around as long as they can.

 

[Aries]

Ryan needs bounced and replaced with Rand Paul or Ted Cruze, and I really don't like Cruze too much, but he or Paul would try to do the right things. Ryan has no balls, and is a poor house speaker.

And it's ridiculous that we can't seem to keep the government funded, which is entirely due to a thousands of Special Interest expenditures.

You think trump would appoint Paul? lol..... I'd enjoy watching

 

[OldLady]

I didn't read the 4 pages of bickering, but this is what I saw yesterday in statements from the Dems and the Repubs and their pundits:
Both sides got some of the things that were important to them. Both sides feel it went pretty well. The hard liners that are pulling this country apart insist on calling a WIN or a LOSE instead of a COMPROMISE.

 

[Old Rocks]

I am laughing so hard at Easyt. You were told that Trump et al would do this.

Kasich would have given you far more than the Trump administration.

Kasich would have been smart enough to have a viable health care system already written had he won the Presidency. As it is, neither the orange clown or the GOP had any idea of what they wanted to do with health care. And ended up with an abortion of a bill that was DOA.

 

[Old Rocks]

3 of 4 Americans do not want ACA repealed.

outright lie

Republicans Stunned As 67% Of Americans Oppose Obamacare Repeal In New Poll

DD, of course most Americans CURRENTLY don't want to see the ACA go away... Obama destroyed the existing health care system, leaving for most rhe ACA as the only insurance. It was MANDATED - Democrats / Obama, by law, gave the people no option but to buy it or be punished by their govt.

That is a stupid comment. If you look at what is the most popular about Obamacare there are a few things.

First there are the subsidies to low income people. Voters do not believe people should lose insurance because they cannot afford it. Besides when people put something off, it means they go to the emergency room which is more expensive. Also it is likely the condition becomes more expensive to treat. Interestingly enough the Freedom Caucus complains about it becoming a entitlement yet the Republican alternative contains subsidies that more resemble entitlements.

Second people with health conditions that are no fault of their own. Voters support that. Republicans would push that to the states and not provide enough money so some people will be either kicked out or anyone with a pre-existing condition will suffer.

There is a reason Democrats had to ram a minority-supported piece of Socialist-agenda legislation down the throats of the majority of Americans who opposed it in the wee hours of the morning before anyone knew what was going on.... There was a reason Democrats told the American people they had no right to read the legislation until the 'edict' had been forced into law.

Damned right there is a reason. The Dems knew that the GOP had talked themselves into a corner considering the Government shutdown, and took advantage of it. The GOP was looking at a slaughter of their candidates if they shut down the government when they had control of both Houses.

 

[Old Rocks]

They did not. What gave Trump the win was the fact that he was not Clinton. A large portion of both Clinton's and Trump's support was a vote against the other candidate not a vote for their candidate.

I agree with you, but many Americans did like some of Trump's message...such as 'drain the swamp'. IMO Americans are tired of lying, self-serving politicians....one of whom, as revealed, is Ryan.

I think by now most Americans are tired of the lies and ignorance of even basic history of the senile orange clown.

 

[Old Rocks]

Really, both parties are 100% sold out to Zionism parties, and do not care about the US at all.

Oh, where is my little tin hat, little tin hat, little tin hat...................................................

 

[easyt65]

I didn't read the 4 pages of bickering, but this is what I saw yesterday in statements from the Dems and the Repubs and their pundits:
Both sides got some of the things that were important to them. Both sides feel it went pretty well. The hard liners that are pulling this country apart insist on calling a WIN or a LOSE instead of a COMPROMISE.

Rather than reading the comments on this message board to try to ascertain what is in the CR, you should research the info and listen to several different news reports. (Not trying to be mean / nasty)

This CR was not a 'compromise'.

1. The first thing it was is a betrayal of a promise made to Conservatives by Paul Ryan and the other Washington Establishment GOP who agreed to the last CR with the promise that once - specifically this April (NOW) - the GOP had control of the House and Senate they would stand and fight for the budget. Ryan, after rolling over again - having lied again to the Conservative who gave the GOP control of the House and Senate again, is now promising Conservatives the GOP will draw a line in the sand and fight for the budget...in SEPTEMBER.

'Carrot at the end of a stick', 'moving the goal posts',...whatever analogy you want to use, it amounts to the same thing. Conservatives need to smarten the hell up and get faster at recognizing lying assholes.


2. It is not what they were promised. It gives Democrats, who are the minority in both Houses, everything they want while giving Conservatives NOTHING they were promised. I will give Democrats props for using the GOP's 'Kryptonite' - threatening to shut down the government then blaming the GOP for it. Right up front the GOP signaled to the Democrats, 'We will not allow a govt shutdown' well in advance of budget negotiations, too. The Democrats went into discussions knowing they could get everything they wanted by threatening a shutdown...and did.

THAT leads me to one question for the lying / betraying Paul Ryan:

After telling the Democrats you would not risK a government shutdown, after the GOP has caved and given Democrats everything they want every time Democrats threaten a shutdown, WHY THE HELL SHOULD AMERICANS BELIEVE YOUR BULLSHIT NOW ABOUT HOW YOU DID NOT FIGHT THIS TIME BUT WILL 'STAND UP AND FIGHT' IN SEPTEMBER?!

A challenge to Ryan's leadership should be issued right now and a 'No Confidence' vote given to remove him as Speaker of the House, At the very least Ryan is an incompetent coward unwilling to stand up and fight to represent the base that gave the GOP control of the House and Senate. At the worst, Ryan is a traitor to the GOP and to the Conservative base, allowing his own bias and hatred for Trump and opposition to his promises/agenda get in the way and drive him into helping the Democrats get everything they want. (IMHO)

 

[easyt65]

I think by now most Americans are tired of the lies and ignorance of even basic history of the senile orange clown.

No matter what you think of your President, it has nothing to do with what Ryan and his Washington Establishment buddies just did in the House with the Budget.

It was not Trump who told the American people that they were going to pass the last DNC-friendly CR with the full intent of standing up and fighting in April when / if they controlled the House and Senate (& WH)...then lied their asses off by again conceding everything the Democrats wanted.