Russia’s Air Defenses In Syria Have Some Big Problems

[Eugene]

Daryl Hunt
Looks like you tried to frighten me...
I am not a specialist in military but I see how often your ‘profi-pilots’ got frightened by Russian jets. Each time your media writes about ‘unprofessional actions of Russian pilots who got as close as 5 meters to our plane’.
Or let me remind you incident in the Black Sea when your Donald Cook got it’s aegis system switched off by one old Russian SU-24. How many - two or three dozen of crew members decided to get away from your heroic navy immediately after that happened?

You’d better stop writing your pathetic bs.
But tried to comment my statements in above post. Of course you won’t - you have nothing to say about that.

And why I should suppose that you’re real person not paid by secret services troll?
If you blame me first show some proofs! Else you are пиздобол, as we call such morons in Russia.

Whenever a troll gets cornered he will always resort to insults. If you believe that I am in fear of you, you are partially correct. But decades ago, I wrote my ass off. Fear is a healthy function when used correctly. I do know you fear me though. It would disrupt the second coming of the Soviet Union if people like me weren't around. Tell you employer (Putin) hello from me.

Usual behavior. No proofs but a lot of blaiming.

 

[Bleipriester]

Daryl Hunt
Looks like you tried to frighten me...
I am not a specialist in military but I see how often your ‘profi-pilots’ got frightened by Russian jets. Each time your media writes about ‘unprofessional actions of Russian pilots who got as close as 5 meters to our plane’.
Or let me remind you incident in the Black Sea when your Donald Cook got it’s aegis system switched off by one old Russian SU-24. How many - two or three dozen of crew members decided to get away from your heroic navy immediately after that happened?

You’d better stop writing your pathetic bs.
But tried to comment my statements in above post. Of course you won’t - you have nothing to say about that.

And why I should suppose that you’re real person not paid by secret services troll?
If you blame me first show some proofs! Else you are пиздобол, as we call such morons in Russia.

It´s American superiority. You can´t question it.

While each American is not superior, Americans as a whole are. We'll survive Putin and even Trump and continue on. Most countries can't say that about their Government. We'll still be here in 100 years in the same basic form.

The maintenance that America is in urgent need for is not happening. The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military. Secessions and or civil war could take place in the near future as the regime is still committed to world domination regardless of the impossibility and pointlessness.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Daryl Hunt
Looks like you tried to frighten me...
I am not a specialist in military but I see how often your ‘profi-pilots’ got frightened by Russian jets. Each time your media writes about ‘unprofessional actions of Russian pilots who got as close as 5 meters to our plane’.
Or let me remind you incident in the Black Sea when your Donald Cook got it’s aegis system switched off by one old Russian SU-24. How many - two or three dozen of crew members decided to get away from your heroic navy immediately after that happened?

You’d better stop writing your pathetic bs.
But tried to comment my statements in above post. Of course you won’t - you have nothing to say about that.

And why I should suppose that you’re real person not paid by secret services troll?
If you blame me first show some proofs! Else you are пиздобол, as we call such morons in Russia.

It´s American superiority. You can´t question it.

While each American is not superior, Americans as a whole are. We'll survive Putin and even Trump and continue on. Most countries can't say that about their Government. We'll still be here in 100 years in the same basic form.

The maintenance that America is in urgent need for is not happening. The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military. Secessions and or civil war could take place in the near future as the regime is still committed to world domination regardless of the impossibility and pointlessness.

Tell your employer, Putin, that the US of America will outlast him by generations or at least a century. You aren't stating facts, you are stating propaganda.

 

[Bleipriester]

Daryl Hunt
Looks like you tried to frighten me...
I am not a specialist in military but I see how often your ‘profi-pilots’ got frightened by Russian jets. Each time your media writes about ‘unprofessional actions of Russian pilots who got as close as 5 meters to our plane’.
Or let me remind you incident in the Black Sea when your Donald Cook got it’s aegis system switched off by one old Russian SU-24. How many - two or three dozen of crew members decided to get away from your heroic navy immediately after that happened?

You’d better stop writing your pathetic bs.
But tried to comment my statements in above post. Of course you won’t - you have nothing to say about that.

And why I should suppose that you’re real person not paid by secret services troll?
If you blame me first show some proofs! Else you are пиздобол, as we call such morons in Russia.

It´s American superiority. You can´t question it.

While each American is not superior, Americans as a whole are. We'll survive Putin and even Trump and continue on. Most countries can't say that about their Government. We'll still be here in 100 years in the same basic form.

The maintenance that America is in urgent need for is not happening. The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military. Secessions and or civil war could take place in the near future as the regime is still committed to world domination regardless of the impossibility and pointlessness.

Tell your employer, Putin, that the US of America will outlast him by generations or at least a century. You aren't stating facts, you are stating propaganda.

Putin is not an enemy of the USA.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Daryl Hunt
Looks like you tried to frighten me...
I am not a specialist in military but I see how often your ‘profi-pilots’ got frightened by Russian jets. Each time your media writes about ‘unprofessional actions of Russian pilots who got as close as 5 meters to our plane’.
Or let me remind you incident in the Black Sea when your Donald Cook got it’s aegis system switched off by one old Russian SU-24. How many - two or three dozen of crew members decided to get away from your heroic navy immediately after that happened?

You’d better stop writing your pathetic bs.
But tried to comment my statements in above post. Of course you won’t - you have nothing to say about that.

And why I should suppose that you’re real person not paid by secret services troll?
If you blame me first show some proofs! Else you are пиздобол, as we call such morons in Russia.

It´s American superiority. You can´t question it.

While each American is not superior, Americans as a whole are. We'll survive Putin and even Trump and continue on. Most countries can't say that about their Government. We'll still be here in 100 years in the same basic form.

The maintenance that America is in urgent need for is not happening. The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military. Secessions and or civil war could take place in the near future as the regime is still committed to world domination regardless of the impossibility and pointlessness.

Tell your employer, Putin, that the US of America will outlast him by generations or at least a century. You aren't stating facts, you are stating propaganda.

Putin is not an enemy of the USA.

Well, Boris, he is certainly an enemy of all around him. Evil comes in many forms and he is Evil.

As for the US and Allies to fear the S-300 thru S-500, not the way we train to combat them. Take even on of our Gen 5s down and they change tactics using terrain masking. Even a 3 gen fighter can get through as long as he has TFR and a lot of Cajones. The F-4 had TFR for nuclear strikes. Now, the F-15E, F-35, F-22 B-52, B-1 and B-2 have that installed. They just pick an extremely overcast time and fly in. No warning. Your radar site goes boom in the night. No matter how good your Radar (or ours for that matter) the only way to prevent this is with other fighters. That is, if you can see them. The Ground Clutter wouldn't help much and if it's a 5th gen, chances are, you won't be aware of him until he pops up to ether fire or drop a present and then drops back into the recesses. BTW, even the AG-64 and I imagine the MI-28 can do this as well. The only difference is, we aren't spreading all the Horse Pucky you are claiming it can't be done. We know it can be done and have done it. In the opening day of DS1, it was apaches that sneaked in and took out those radar sites by terrain masking.

No matter what you say, your Radar can't see through tens of feet through rocks and dirt. That is what the article was all about. But you wish to come in with your Paid Putin Message and say they can. Physics says they can't. If I thought for a second that the Russian Radar Operators believed this then I would think less of them. As it stands now, sitting in a truck with a huge transmitting antenna isn't the most healthiest job in the world for ANY side that their enemy trains on a daily basis to use Terrain Masking.

 

[Bleipriester]

It´s American superiority. You can´t question it.

While each American is not superior, Americans as a whole are. We'll survive Putin and even Trump and continue on. Most countries can't say that about their Government. We'll still be here in 100 years in the same basic form.

The maintenance that America is in urgent need for is not happening. The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military. Secessions and or civil war could take place in the near future as the regime is still committed to world domination regardless of the impossibility and pointlessness.

Tell your employer, Putin, that the US of America will outlast him by generations or at least a century. You aren't stating facts, you are stating propaganda.

Putin is not an enemy of the USA.

Well, Boris, he is certainly an enemy of all around him. Evil comes in many forms and he is Evil.

As for the US and Allies to fear the S-300 thru S-500, not the way we train to combat them. Take even on of our Gen 5s down and they change tactics using terrain masking. Even a 3 gen fighter can get through as long as he has TFR and a lot of Cajones. The F-4 had TFR for nuclear strikes. Now, the F-15E, F-35, F-22 B-52, B-1 and B-2 have that installed. They just pick an extremely overcast time and fly in. No warning. Your radar site goes boom in the night. No matter how good your Radar (or ours for that matter) the only way to prevent this is with other fighters. That is, if you can see them. The Ground Clutter wouldn't help much and if it's a 5th gen, chances are, you won't be aware of him until he pops up to ether fire or drop a present and then drops back into the recesses. BTW, even the AG-64 and I imagine the MI-28 can do this as well. The only difference is, we aren't spreading all the Horse Pucky you are claiming it can't be done. We know it can be done and have done it. In the opening day of DS1, it was apaches that sneaked in and took out those radar sites by terrain masking.

No matter what you say, your Radar can't see through tens of feet through rocks and dirt. That is what the article was all about. But you wish to come in with your Paid Putin Message and say they can. Physics says they can't. If I thought for a second that the Russian Radar Operators believed this then I would think less of them. As it stands now, sitting in a truck with a huge transmitting antenna isn't the most healthiest job in the world for ANY side that their enemy trains on a daily basis to use Terrain Masking.

Avoiding radar detection will be not very successful. It should be pretty clear that the S-400 is protected by other AA-defense systems that will work to intercept incoming enemies. The article assumes there is only a S-400 and nothing else. It assumes the Russians don´t know what mountains do to radar.

And if you believe the article then we are not talking about the Khmeimim Air Base but about a fictive Himalaya Air Base,

Latakia Coastal Plain - Wikimapia

 

[Daryl Hunt]

While each American is not superior, Americans as a whole are. We'll survive Putin and even Trump and continue on. Most countries can't say that about their Government. We'll still be here in 100 years in the same basic form.

The maintenance that America is in urgent need for is not happening. The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military. Secessions and or civil war could take place in the near future as the regime is still committed to world domination regardless of the impossibility and pointlessness.

Tell your employer, Putin, that the US of America will outlast him by generations or at least a century. You aren't stating facts, you are stating propaganda.

Putin is not an enemy of the USA.

Well, Boris, he is certainly an enemy of all around him. Evil comes in many forms and he is Evil.

As for the US and Allies to fear the S-300 thru S-500, not the way we train to combat them. Take even on of our Gen 5s down and they change tactics using terrain masking. Even a 3 gen fighter can get through as long as he has TFR and a lot of Cajones. The F-4 had TFR for nuclear strikes. Now, the F-15E, F-35, F-22 B-52, B-1 and B-2 have that installed. They just pick an extremely overcast time and fly in. No warning. Your radar site goes boom in the night. No matter how good your Radar (or ours for that matter) the only way to prevent this is with other fighters. That is, if you can see them. The Ground Clutter wouldn't help much and if it's a 5th gen, chances are, you won't be aware of him until he pops up to ether fire or drop a present and then drops back into the recesses. BTW, even the AG-64 and I imagine the MI-28 can do this as well. The only difference is, we aren't spreading all the Horse Pucky you are claiming it can't be done. We know it can be done and have done it. In the opening day of DS1, it was apaches that sneaked in and took out those radar sites by terrain masking.

No matter what you say, your Radar can't see through tens of feet through rocks and dirt. That is what the article was all about. But you wish to come in with your Paid Putin Message and say they can. Physics says they can't. If I thought for a second that the Russian Radar Operators believed this then I would think less of them. As it stands now, sitting in a truck with a huge transmitting antenna isn't the most healthiest job in the world for ANY side that their enemy trains on a daily basis to use Terrain Masking.

Avoiding radar detection will be not very successful. It should be pretty clear that the S-400 is protected by other AA-defense systems that will work to intercept incoming enemies. The article assumes there is only a S-400 and nothing else. It assumes the Russians don´t know what mountains do to radar.

And if you believe the article then we are not talking about the Khmeimim Air Base but about a fictive Himalaya Air Base,

Latakia Coastal Plain - Wikimapia

If we send in 100 fighters of all types with a Hi-Lo attack and only 10 get through, this paves the way for thousands. And that is what you are up against. You don't have enough SA sites of at least the S-300 to stop it. In War, one has to willing to sacrifice to gain the objective. You are not military and are going off a script. I am retired Military and wrote my ass off decades ago. The Pilots you will encounter in this scenario will all have written their asses off before the mission. Much like your radar operators will also have written their asses off prior as well. I don't expect you to understand since this is not in the prepared script you are operating from.

Professional Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airman all are professionals. Your conscripts are in serious trouble and no amount of PR can get around that. Your Professionals have also written their asses off just like ours will have. And the first priority will be to take out the Radar Sites and Missile batteries. Then those thousands of Military AC are free to enter and really tear things up. This includes Attack Choppers as well. You see, you are out numbered in both quality and quantity. What might prevent this would be for one side or another to go to DEFCON 1 with their finger just above the button. That means that the Russian and the US will NEVER try and defeat the other openly. It becomes a doomsday situation. While you Civilians like to rattle that saber, the Military knows when to stop and think. This was demonstrated in the early 70s when live by Satellite, The Politburo and the US Congress were busy threatening the other side but it was the Generals from Both Sides that kept it from going too far.

This means that the wars between Russia and America will always be fought by proxy. To do otherwise is just insane.

 

[Bleipriester]

The maintenance that America is in urgent need for is not happening. The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military. Secessions and or civil war could take place in the near future as the regime is still committed to world domination regardless of the impossibility and pointlessness.

Tell your employer, Putin, that the US of America will outlast him by generations or at least a century. You aren't stating facts, you are stating propaganda.

Putin is not an enemy of the USA.

Well, Boris, he is certainly an enemy of all around him. Evil comes in many forms and he is Evil.

As for the US and Allies to fear the S-300 thru S-500, not the way we train to combat them. Take even on of our Gen 5s down and they change tactics using terrain masking. Even a 3 gen fighter can get through as long as he has TFR and a lot of Cajones. The F-4 had TFR for nuclear strikes. Now, the F-15E, F-35, F-22 B-52, B-1 and B-2 have that installed. They just pick an extremely overcast time and fly in. No warning. Your radar site goes boom in the night. No matter how good your Radar (or ours for that matter) the only way to prevent this is with other fighters. That is, if you can see them. The Ground Clutter wouldn't help much and if it's a 5th gen, chances are, you won't be aware of him until he pops up to ether fire or drop a present and then drops back into the recesses. BTW, even the AG-64 and I imagine the MI-28 can do this as well. The only difference is, we aren't spreading all the Horse Pucky you are claiming it can't be done. We know it can be done and have done it. In the opening day of DS1, it was apaches that sneaked in and took out those radar sites by terrain masking.

No matter what you say, your Radar can't see through tens of feet through rocks and dirt. That is what the article was all about. But you wish to come in with your Paid Putin Message and say they can. Physics says they can't. If I thought for a second that the Russian Radar Operators believed this then I would think less of them. As it stands now, sitting in a truck with a huge transmitting antenna isn't the most healthiest job in the world for ANY side that their enemy trains on a daily basis to use Terrain Masking.

Avoiding radar detection will be not very successful. It should be pretty clear that the S-400 is protected by other AA-defense systems that will work to intercept incoming enemies. The article assumes there is only a S-400 and nothing else. It assumes the Russians don´t know what mountains do to radar.

And if you believe the article then we are not talking about the Khmeimim Air Base but about a fictive Himalaya Air Base,

Latakia Coastal Plain - Wikimapia

If we send in 100 fighters of all types with a Hi-Lo attack and only 10 get through, this paves the way for thousands. And that is what you are up against. You don't have enough SA sites of at least the S-300 to stop it. In War, one has to willing to sacrifice to gain the objective. You are not military and are going off a script. I am retired Military and wrote my ass off decades ago. The Pilots you will encounter in this scenario will all have written their asses off before the mission. Much like your radar operators will also have written their asses off prior as well. I don't expect you to understand since this is not in the prepared script you are operating from.

Professional Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airman all are professionals. Your conscripts are in serious trouble and no amount of PR can get around that. Your Professionals have also written their asses off just like ours will have. And the first priority will be to take out the Radar Sites and Missile batteries. Then those thousands of Military AC are free to enter and really tear things up. This includes Attack Choppers as well. You see, you are out numbered in both quality and quantity. What might prevent this would be for one side or another to go to DEFCON 1 with their finger just above the button. That means that the Russian and the US will NEVER try and defeat the other openly. It becomes a doomsday situation. While you Civilians like to rattle that saber, the Military knows when to stop and think. This was demonstrated in the early 70s when live by Satellite, The Politburo and the US Congress were busy threatening the other side but it was the Generals from Both Sides that kept it from going too far.

This means that the wars between Russia and America will always be fought by proxy. To do otherwise is just insane.

And insanity is the factor that may take effect with guys like Trump at the red button.
I am not outnumbered anyhow and you can see that Syria wins the war and that Assad stays despite the entirety of the West, the Gulf and some other slave states did everything to bring about the Zionist Yinon Plan.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Tell your employer, Putin, that the US of America will outlast him by generations or at least a century. You aren't stating facts, you are stating propaganda.

Putin is not an enemy of the USA.

Well, Boris, he is certainly an enemy of all around him. Evil comes in many forms and he is Evil.

As for the US and Allies to fear the S-300 thru S-500, not the way we train to combat them. Take even on of our Gen 5s down and they change tactics using terrain masking. Even a 3 gen fighter can get through as long as he has TFR and a lot of Cajones. The F-4 had TFR for nuclear strikes. Now, the F-15E, F-35, F-22 B-52, B-1 and B-2 have that installed. They just pick an extremely overcast time and fly in. No warning. Your radar site goes boom in the night. No matter how good your Radar (or ours for that matter) the only way to prevent this is with other fighters. That is, if you can see them. The Ground Clutter wouldn't help much and if it's a 5th gen, chances are, you won't be aware of him until he pops up to ether fire or drop a present and then drops back into the recesses. BTW, even the AG-64 and I imagine the MI-28 can do this as well. The only difference is, we aren't spreading all the Horse Pucky you are claiming it can't be done. We know it can be done and have done it. In the opening day of DS1, it was apaches that sneaked in and took out those radar sites by terrain masking.

No matter what you say, your Radar can't see through tens of feet through rocks and dirt. That is what the article was all about. But you wish to come in with your Paid Putin Message and say they can. Physics says they can't. If I thought for a second that the Russian Radar Operators believed this then I would think less of them. As it stands now, sitting in a truck with a huge transmitting antenna isn't the most healthiest job in the world for ANY side that their enemy trains on a daily basis to use Terrain Masking.

Avoiding radar detection will be not very successful. It should be pretty clear that the S-400 is protected by other AA-defense systems that will work to intercept incoming enemies. The article assumes there is only a S-400 and nothing else. It assumes the Russians don´t know what mountains do to radar.

And if you believe the article then we are not talking about the Khmeimim Air Base but about a fictive Himalaya Air Base,

Latakia Coastal Plain - Wikimapia

If we send in 100 fighters of all types with a Hi-Lo attack and only 10 get through, this paves the way for thousands. And that is what you are up against. You don't have enough SA sites of at least the S-300 to stop it. In War, one has to willing to sacrifice to gain the objective. You are not military and are going off a script. I am retired Military and wrote my ass off decades ago. The Pilots you will encounter in this scenario will all have written their asses off before the mission. Much like your radar operators will also have written their asses off prior as well. I don't expect you to understand since this is not in the prepared script you are operating from.

Professional Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airman all are professionals. Your conscripts are in serious trouble and no amount of PR can get around that. Your Professionals have also written their asses off just like ours will have. And the first priority will be to take out the Radar Sites and Missile batteries. Then those thousands of Military AC are free to enter and really tear things up. This includes Attack Choppers as well. You see, you are out numbered in both quality and quantity. What might prevent this would be for one side or another to go to DEFCON 1 with their finger just above the button. That means that the Russian and the US will NEVER try and defeat the other openly. It becomes a doomsday situation. While you Civilians like to rattle that saber, the Military knows when to stop and think. This was demonstrated in the early 70s when live by Satellite, The Politburo and the US Congress were busy threatening the other side but it was the Generals from Both Sides that kept it from going too far.

This means that the wars between Russia and America will always be fought by proxy. To do otherwise is just insane.

And insanity is the factor that may take effect with guys like Trump at the red button.
I am not outnumbered anyhow and you can see that Syria wins the war and that Assad stays despite the entirety of the West, the Gulf and some other slave states did everything to bring about the Zionist Yinon Plan.

War in insantity. It's also terrible. If it wasn't then it would happen on a much higher rate. When a country forgets that then a war is made possible. Assad just made it down to square one. He isn't out of the woods yet. Remove ISIS and the Teliban then forces can get back to the civil war. To think otherwise is just suicide. What happens when the US forces a no fly zone? It's coming. As it is, the US and Russia are in daily discussions preventing Green on Green for their Air Forces. The Russians already know that the US will fire on a Russian Bird up to no good. The civil war ain't over by a long shot.

 

[Bleipriester]

Putin is not an enemy of the USA.

Well, Boris, he is certainly an enemy of all around him. Evil comes in many forms and he is Evil.

As for the US and Allies to fear the S-300 thru S-500, not the way we train to combat them. Take even on of our Gen 5s down and they change tactics using terrain masking. Even a 3 gen fighter can get through as long as he has TFR and a lot of Cajones. The F-4 had TFR for nuclear strikes. Now, the F-15E, F-35, F-22 B-52, B-1 and B-2 have that installed. They just pick an extremely overcast time and fly in. No warning. Your radar site goes boom in the night. No matter how good your Radar (or ours for that matter) the only way to prevent this is with other fighters. That is, if you can see them. The Ground Clutter wouldn't help much and if it's a 5th gen, chances are, you won't be aware of him until he pops up to ether fire or drop a present and then drops back into the recesses. BTW, even the AG-64 and I imagine the MI-28 can do this as well. The only difference is, we aren't spreading all the Horse Pucky you are claiming it can't be done. We know it can be done and have done it. In the opening day of DS1, it was apaches that sneaked in and took out those radar sites by terrain masking.

No matter what you say, your Radar can't see through tens of feet through rocks and dirt. That is what the article was all about. But you wish to come in with your Paid Putin Message and say they can. Physics says they can't. If I thought for a second that the Russian Radar Operators believed this then I would think less of them. As it stands now, sitting in a truck with a huge transmitting antenna isn't the most healthiest job in the world for ANY side that their enemy trains on a daily basis to use Terrain Masking.

Avoiding radar detection will be not very successful. It should be pretty clear that the S-400 is protected by other AA-defense systems that will work to intercept incoming enemies. The article assumes there is only a S-400 and nothing else. It assumes the Russians don´t know what mountains do to radar.

And if you believe the article then we are not talking about the Khmeimim Air Base but about a fictive Himalaya Air Base,

Latakia Coastal Plain - Wikimapia

If we send in 100 fighters of all types with a Hi-Lo attack and only 10 get through, this paves the way for thousands. And that is what you are up against. You don't have enough SA sites of at least the S-300 to stop it. In War, one has to willing to sacrifice to gain the objective. You are not military and are going off a script. I am retired Military and wrote my ass off decades ago. The Pilots you will encounter in this scenario will all have written their asses off before the mission. Much like your radar operators will also have written their asses off prior as well. I don't expect you to understand since this is not in the prepared script you are operating from.

Professional Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airman all are professionals. Your conscripts are in serious trouble and no amount of PR can get around that. Your Professionals have also written their asses off just like ours will have. And the first priority will be to take out the Radar Sites and Missile batteries. Then those thousands of Military AC are free to enter and really tear things up. This includes Attack Choppers as well. You see, you are out numbered in both quality and quantity. What might prevent this would be for one side or another to go to DEFCON 1 with their finger just above the button. That means that the Russian and the US will NEVER try and defeat the other openly. It becomes a doomsday situation. While you Civilians like to rattle that saber, the Military knows when to stop and think. This was demonstrated in the early 70s when live by Satellite, The Politburo and the US Congress were busy threatening the other side but it was the Generals from Both Sides that kept it from going too far.

This means that the wars between Russia and America will always be fought by proxy. To do otherwise is just insane.

And insanity is the factor that may take effect with guys like Trump at the red button.
I am not outnumbered anyhow and you can see that Syria wins the war and that Assad stays despite the entirety of the West, the Gulf and some other slave states did everything to bring about the Zionist Yinon Plan.

War in insantity. It's also terrible. If it wasn't then it would happen on a much higher rate. When a country forgets that then a war is made possible. Assad just made it down to square one. He isn't out of the woods yet. Remove ISIS and the Teliban then forces can get back to the civil war. To think otherwise is just suicide. What happens when the US forces a no fly zone? It's coming. As it is, the US and Russia are in daily discussions preventing Green on Green for their Air Forces. The Russians already know that the US will fire on a Russian Bird up to no good. The civil war ain't over by a long shot.

ISIS and al-Qaeda are the "rebels". There is already a no fly zone in place, a Russian. All Coalition aircraft west of the Euphrates are treated as targets. The US already made clear it will leave Syria after ISIS is gone. Although they are still doing the most disgusting things - holding human shields and denying them aid at al-Tanf, supporting ISIS in Deir Ezzor - they know their criminal war is lost. You know nothing about all that because your "free press" shits on you day and night.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Well, Boris, he is certainly an enemy of all around him. Evil comes in many forms and he is Evil.

As for the US and Allies to fear the S-300 thru S-500, not the way we train to combat them. Take even on of our Gen 5s down and they change tactics using terrain masking. Even a 3 gen fighter can get through as long as he has TFR and a lot of Cajones. The F-4 had TFR for nuclear strikes. Now, the F-15E, F-35, F-22 B-52, B-1 and B-2 have that installed. They just pick an extremely overcast time and fly in. No warning. Your radar site goes boom in the night. No matter how good your Radar (or ours for that matter) the only way to prevent this is with other fighters. That is, if you can see them. The Ground Clutter wouldn't help much and if it's a 5th gen, chances are, you won't be aware of him until he pops up to ether fire or drop a present and then drops back into the recesses. BTW, even the AG-64 and I imagine the MI-28 can do this as well. The only difference is, we aren't spreading all the Horse Pucky you are claiming it can't be done. We know it can be done and have done it. In the opening day of DS1, it was apaches that sneaked in and took out those radar sites by terrain masking.

No matter what you say, your Radar can't see through tens of feet through rocks and dirt. That is what the article was all about. But you wish to come in with your Paid Putin Message and say they can. Physics says they can't. If I thought for a second that the Russian Radar Operators believed this then I would think less of them. As it stands now, sitting in a truck with a huge transmitting antenna isn't the most healthiest job in the world for ANY side that their enemy trains on a daily basis to use Terrain Masking.

Avoiding radar detection will be not very successful. It should be pretty clear that the S-400 is protected by other AA-defense systems that will work to intercept incoming enemies. The article assumes there is only a S-400 and nothing else. It assumes the Russians don´t know what mountains do to radar.

And if you believe the article then we are not talking about the Khmeimim Air Base but about a fictive Himalaya Air Base,

Latakia Coastal Plain - Wikimapia

If we send in 100 fighters of all types with a Hi-Lo attack and only 10 get through, this paves the way for thousands. And that is what you are up against. You don't have enough SA sites of at least the S-300 to stop it. In War, one has to willing to sacrifice to gain the objective. You are not military and are going off a script. I am retired Military and wrote my ass off decades ago. The Pilots you will encounter in this scenario will all have written their asses off before the mission. Much like your radar operators will also have written their asses off prior as well. I don't expect you to understand since this is not in the prepared script you are operating from.

Professional Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airman all are professionals. Your conscripts are in serious trouble and no amount of PR can get around that. Your Professionals have also written their asses off just like ours will have. And the first priority will be to take out the Radar Sites and Missile batteries. Then those thousands of Military AC are free to enter and really tear things up. This includes Attack Choppers as well. You see, you are out numbered in both quality and quantity. What might prevent this would be for one side or another to go to DEFCON 1 with their finger just above the button. That means that the Russian and the US will NEVER try and defeat the other openly. It becomes a doomsday situation. While you Civilians like to rattle that saber, the Military knows when to stop and think. This was demonstrated in the early 70s when live by Satellite, The Politburo and the US Congress were busy threatening the other side but it was the Generals from Both Sides that kept it from going too far.

This means that the wars between Russia and America will always be fought by proxy. To do otherwise is just insane.

And insanity is the factor that may take effect with guys like Trump at the red button.
I am not outnumbered anyhow and you can see that Syria wins the war and that Assad stays despite the entirety of the West, the Gulf and some other slave states did everything to bring about the Zionist Yinon Plan.

War in insantity. It's also terrible. If it wasn't then it would happen on a much higher rate. When a country forgets that then a war is made possible. Assad just made it down to square one. He isn't out of the woods yet. Remove ISIS and the Teliban then forces can get back to the civil war. To think otherwise is just suicide. What happens when the US forces a no fly zone? It's coming. As it is, the US and Russia are in daily discussions preventing Green on Green for their Air Forces. The Russians already know that the US will fire on a Russian Bird up to no good. The civil war ain't over by a long shot.

ISIS and al-Qaeda are the "rebels". There is already a no fly zone in place, a Russian. All Coalition aircraft west of the Euphrates are treated as targets. The US already made clear it will leave Syria after ISIS is gone. Although they are still doing the most disgusting things - holding human shields and denying them aid at al-Tanf, supporting ISIS in Deir Ezzor - they know their criminal war is lost. You know nothing about all that because your "free press" shits on you day and night.

Please send Mr Putin my regards.

 

[Eugene]

Please send Mr Putin my regards.

Typical answer of brainwashed western sheep when they have nothing to answer.

Bleipriester it is useless to waste a time for discus to such an oakhead.

 

[danielpalos]

Comrade, you are quoting a Russian Government Owned Cite. Just like you pinko commies. Putin controls that site and it will always go for the party line. And, right now, Putin IS the party. He will attempt to discredit the US in any way he can. The only one he gets to discredit here is you.

Nobody can discredit the country more than an old fuck that won the elections with the tunes of peace and then shells a sovereign country threatened by terrorist armies. You think for the reputation of the USA it matters if those terror missiles failed or not? It matters not. What matters is the order and its compliant execution, applauded by "patriots". What is left to discredit for Russian trolls?

Also, what site do you mean, there are several and why shouldn´t Russia have a voice? What about the US media by the way? Let Trump tell us what it is:

What's your point here? I think Trump is a disaster. He made campaign promises that he is keeping whether they are good or bad. He is not what he claimed. But as a US Citizen, I have the right to say that. You, as a Russian, don't have the luxury of bad mouthing Putin without disappearing from the face of the earth. Trump is just temporary and will pass and be replaced. Meanwhile, Putin will remain in power as long as Putin wishes which can only end in his death. While our system isn't perfect, it's better than yours, Comrade.

Trump is a disaster for you because he is republican. He´s a disaster for me because he continues Obama´s policies plus he loves war. I am not a Russian but a German. Russians have freedom by the way and no western President is as respected in his own country as Putin. What you say about Russia only shows the disinformation that is being spread in your country.
As a German I tell you we have good relations with Russia. Even though our own leaders in Europe harm their own countries to fulfill US sanctions orders they know they depend on Russian natural recourses. Russia is a good trade partner and if that anti-Russian warmongering in your country would stop, you could realize that Russia is a peaceful country that only wishes to be part of the western world already for centuries.

This brings up a joke.

An American said that he had the right to burn the American Flag if he wishes. What do you have the right to do. The Russian responded he had the right to burn an American Flag a well.

Your Germany lives in the shadow of Russia for energy and trade. We have seen the screaming done when the Russians turned off the Natural Gas spigot. We have also watched Russia do the same thing in OUR elections that they do in Germany. It will never be tolerated here again. But it appears that you accept it as a good thing. What we got for it was Trump. We deserved better. But you dance with the fat lady that brung yuh.

I don't believe that ANY country that can't be self sufficient should be allowed to be a country. Germany is NOT self sufficient anymore than France or Spain. Maybe we should make one large country out of those three. How would that work out? You, as a German, should understand that that just won't work out since your country already tried that. But you can't allow Russia the latitude to disrupt your elections and then call them friends. Shows a total lack of backbone and maybe you don't deserve your country.

Funny to hear that we in Russia have no freedom. What exactly I am not allowed?
Anti-Putin opinions are widely met in mass media even in mainstream ones. We have several media sources existing thanks to abroad financing and having only anti-governmental content. We have many foreign tv-channels here. And nobody is persecuted for ‘bad-mouthing’ of Putin.

Besides you’re wrong in other sentences.
Tell me please when Russia turned off the Natural Gas spigot? It never happened!
But Ukraine did it twice!!! Ukraine - a transit country. Check the info thoroughly before posting please!

Elections in the USA?
Show me please at least 1 evidence of Russian interference!
What about the USA? You interfered political life of almost every country in the world. You change governments, you start wars...
In Germany - USA relations let’s remind spy scandal when your secret services listened every politician’s phone talks, read all their emails...even Merkel’s. Nice ally!
If one have such an ally he needs no enemy!

Should I look for, girlenemies, to keep closer than my girlfriends?

 

[onaquest]

Worthless propaganda article.

Did Putin give you that information? Radar works great when looking down or to the side. But if you have a hilly area, it can't see the low spots. A F-15E could easily take advantage of that and just popup when it fires and then dropping back into the recesses. And so can the Buff, B-1. Anything with TFR.

Yes and No.

I agree with you that radar positioning is important in creating effective area dominance for SAM units but I think it’s important to point out that radar, command and missiles elements of the S-400 are mounted on seperate vehicles and often kept apart to increase survivability. Somehow its reasonable to expect the Russians would be concealing their modular SAM assets to limit any anti-radiation missile strikes or using more than one radar or missile battery to confuse their adversary. So without looking at the surrounding area for another radar you would have to assume the S-400 battery has been positioned correctly.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Worthless propaganda article.

Did Putin give you that information? Radar works great when looking down or to the side. But if you have a hilly area, it can't see the low spots. A F-15E could easily take advantage of that and just popup when it fires and then dropping back into the recesses. And so can the Buff, B-1. Anything with TFR.

Yes and No.

I agree with you that radar positioning is important in creating effective area dominance for SAM units but I think it’s important to point out that radar, command and missiles elements of the S-400 are mounted on seperate vehicles and often kept apart to increase survivability. Somehow its reasonable to expect the Russians would be concealing their modular SAM assets to limit any anti-radiation missile strikes or using more than one radar or missile battery to confuse their adversary. So without looking at the surrounding area for another radar you would have to assume the S-400 battery has been positioned correctly.

The norm is to overlap the coverage. And you are correct. The control truck is not parked along side of the missile battery or antenna array. But to knock out the Radar Missiles, take out the Arrays. Not a huge problem. But you will still have to contend with the IR guided ones. Before you can vector in on the battery it has to fire at least one. AT that point it's very vulnerable. Then again, so is the enemies aircraft.

Let's take a look at Eastern Europe. It's hilly, has valleys and such all through it. It's a friggin nightmare to defend even if the enemy isn't using stealth. Let's say for argument sake that a site fired on a F-35 or F-22 at 80 miles. They will be coming in at high altitude. If the bird survives, it heads hard to the deck which takes out the radar and IR ability to track long enough to get a lock. Now it becomes on who sees whom first and gets off the first shot. In this situation, the Fighter has the advantage.

Then you have the bomber coming in using TFR. He's flying in the valleys, crevices, behind hills, mountains and even tall trees. Your radar missiles will probably be worthless. But when he pops up to launch or drop, your IR has one shot on him. Chances are, he knows where there is no overlap considering the F-35 has taken out the redundancy even at the cost of the fighter itself. The cost of one fighter to allow your bombers and other F-35s to create a nice fat corridor is priceless. It allows the Gen 3 and 4 AC to operate wholesale. And there will be thousands of those. It also allows the Buff and B-1 to do their thing and as few as there are of them, they will do more damage than all the fighters combined. You can interchange US for Russia and vise versa. You can't change physics in this Universe no matter which side you are one. It makes a radar site pretty much a death sentence. It's been like that ever since the Linebacker campaigns.

I don't know how the Russians practice this since they do it in areas that are tough to monitor and don't make any open claims, but the US openly practices this and they are pretty damned good at it with decades of practice. The tactics of the F-22 and the F-35 for opening shots, the next wave might be the B-2s and then you have the Buffs and B-1s next along with the F-15Es. If it works out right, you can now come in with the rest of the pack including attack choppers and hit the other ground targets. AT Red Flag, they practice this and the Radar and IR sites are hard press to survive it. And our Radar is just as good as anything the Russians can currently field.

Too many people spend way to much time yelling the virtues of the Radar Guided Missiles. Fact is, the ground force with the IR missile trucks are more of a danger. They fire visually. Your warning bells, lights and whistles go off AFTER they launch. But you get one launch because the next guy in the line will know where you are and send you a nice package.

Ground Missiles sites of all kind gets one free launch. Not two. And it matters little which side you are on. You can't change physics.

 

[DrainBamage]

The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military.

What happened in your life where you are so comfortable constantly lying? Surely that affects your personal relationships, so I suspect you are quite sad and lonely.

For the record the US doesn't "all the money" on the military, it spends about 16% far less than on SS and medicare. You are either a liar or really stupid with math, which is it?

 

[Bleipriester]

The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military.

What happened in your life where you are so comfortable constantly lying? Surely that affects your personal relationships, so I suspect you are quite sad and lonely.

For the record the US doesn't "all the money" on the military, it spends about 16% far less than on SS and medicare. You are either a liar or really stupid with math, which is it?

Where´s support for terrorists and budget of 50 secret services on that graph?

ASCE's 2017 Infrastructure Report Card | GPA: D+

 

[DrainBamage]

Okay, make your case. A link to an infrastructure report card sure doesn't support your claim that all the money goes to defense?

I've seen enough of your posts here to know you are both gullible and stupid, so let's here how that backs up your claim.

 

[Bleipriester]

Okay, make your case. A link to an infrastructure report card sure doesn't support your claim that all the money goes to defense?

I've seen enough of your posts here to know you are both gullible and stupid, so let's here how that backs up your claim.

There is no budget in the world that dedicates all money to the military. That means your "point" is just this: Spam & Flame.

 

[DrainBamage]

The country is going downhill while all the money is being spent on the military.

(graph showing military budget 16%)

There is no budget in the world that dedicates all money to the military. That means your "point" is just this: Spam & Flame.

This is why you are the village idiot in this forum.

Interestingly, here is military budget as a percentage of GDP in 2016:
Military expenditure (% of GDP) | Data

Russia 5.4%
USA 3.3%[/QUOTE]