Russian police arrest boy for reciting Shakespeare

[Eloy]

I am not in the business of passing judgement on the parents of children based on one wearing a bikini on Facebook. I witnessed the police assaulting a nine year-old boy and then kidnapping him which is an abuse of police power

You witnessed violation of the law by a child and good job of police to prevent it.
If one follows your logic police has no right to arrest a child even if he is killing someone or steals something.

If in your country it is allowed for children to beg for money than you have bad laws.

In Russia, it is forbidden to arrest anyone under 16.
Where I live, children are not forbidden to be on our streets.

Who told you that?
There are special jails for criminal teenagers.
Everything is done in another way but still a rest is possible...maybe it is called in other words.
In Russia children are not forbidden to be on streets either, don't try to play with words - I will lose this game or let's switch to Russian language.

A child can be held criminally liable for any offence committed from the age of 16. A person aged 14 or older can be held criminally liable for a number of offences specifically listed in Article 20(2) of the Criminal Code. [Criminal Code, Article 20(1) and (2)]
Minimum Ages of Criminal Responsibility in Europe | CRIN
The Russian boy who was assaulted and kidnapped by the Moscau police was 9 years of age.

A child of any age may be taken to police department in some certain cases. Suspicion of homeless is one of those legal reasons.
Police in that case must inform his parents. Exactly what was done in the discussed case.

It is the manner of the kidnapping of the boy that horrified the Russian people. I saw a policeman holding the boy by the shoulders while the child was screaming "Help me! Help me!" This is assault.

The police could have telephoned the boy's parents if they imagined he was violating some ordinance. There was no need to take him to a police station. The nearby woman could have assisted the police as she is the partner of the boy's father. Were I a bystander, I would have been arrested by the police because I would have intervened to protect the child from police abuse.

 

[pismoe]

hero Eloy , [chuckle] . By the way , where are the accounts of the horrified Russian people ?? Most likely Russian people complained about the kid and his 'mother' and thats why the cops showed up . Anyway , these horrified Russian people and the kid were likely just drama queens , buskers , beggars and street people that were in proximity to the kid . I have never seen the cops grab a kid off the street in my life in the USA but if i ever see it happen i will figure that the kid is being grabbed for a good reason . --------------------- i would also intervene if i saw the kid being beaten but i think the kid was grabbed , collared or just taken into custody Eloy .

 

[pismoe]

This case shows how western anti Russian propaganda works.

What was in fact:
A boy was begging which is illegal. It was not his first time. He was warned for several times before. At this time he was taken to police department until his parents come.
Everything was done correctly. Even specialist of children department came.
Some woman who called herself his neighbor tried not to allow policemen do their job. She even used strength and abused them.

I don't understand why that woman was not arrested. In the USA policemen would use shocker to calm her down. But she was not even indicted later.

Here are some photos:
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That's why the boy was delivered to police department. He was begging.
Here is his mother:

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Do you think she is good mother? Why her son needs to get money at the streets?

And now try to realize how would police or some kind of juvenile department in other countries would react.
Try to recall in your memory cases when adopted children were slaves in the USA...or children were taken away from parents in Scandinavia just basing on suspicions.

--------------------------------------------------- i looked at the photos , kid didn't look like he was being beaten Eloy !!

 

[Eugene]

You witnessed violation of the law by a child and good job of police to prevent it.
If one follows your logic police has no right to arrest a child even if he is killing someone or steals something.

If in your country it is allowed for children to beg for money than you have bad laws.

In Russia, it is forbidden to arrest anyone under 16.
Where I live, children are not forbidden to be on our streets.

Who told you that?
There are special jails for criminal teenagers.
Everything is done in another way but still a rest is possible...maybe it is called in other words.
In Russia children are not forbidden to be on streets either, don't try to play with words - I will lose this game or let's switch to Russian language.

A child can be held criminally liable for any offence committed from the age of 16. A person aged 14 or older can be held criminally liable for a number of offences specifically listed in Article 20(2) of the Criminal Code. [Criminal Code, Article 20(1) and (2)]
Minimum Ages of Criminal Responsibility in Europe | CRIN
The Russian boy who was assaulted and kidnapped by the Moscau police was 9 years of age.

A child of any age may be taken to police department in some certain cases. Suspicion of homeless is one of those legal reasons.
Police in that case must inform his parents. Exactly what was done in the discussed case.

It is the manner of the kidnapping of the boy that horrified the Russian people. I saw a policeman holding the boy by the shoulders while the child was screaming "Help me! Help me!" This is assault.

The police could have telephoned the boy's parents if they imagined he was violating some ordinance. There was no need to take him to a police station. The nearby woman could have assisted the police as she is the partner of the boy's father. Were I a bystander, I would have been arrested by the police because I would have intervened to protect the child from police abuse.

The US police is acting much more careful and mercifully - they simply use shockers and nobody horrifies passing by people with screams.

 

[Eloy]

In Russia, it is forbidden to arrest anyone under 16.
Where I live, children are not forbidden to be on our streets.

Who told you that?
There are special jails for criminal teenagers.
Everything is done in another way but still a rest is possible...maybe it is called in other words.
In Russia children are not forbidden to be on streets either, don't try to play with words - I will lose this game or let's switch to Russian language.

A child can be held criminally liable for any offence committed from the age of 16. A person aged 14 or older can be held criminally liable for a number of offences specifically listed in Article 20(2) of the Criminal Code. [Criminal Code, Article 20(1) and (2)]
Minimum Ages of Criminal Responsibility in Europe | CRIN
The Russian boy who was assaulted and kidnapped by the Moscau police was 9 years of age.

A child of any age may be taken to police department in some certain cases. Suspicion of homeless is one of those legal reasons.
Police in that case must inform his parents. Exactly what was done in the discussed case.

It is the manner of the kidnapping of the boy that horrified the Russian people. I saw a policeman holding the boy by the shoulders while the child was screaming "Help me! Help me!" This is assault.

The police could have telephoned the boy's parents if they imagined he was violating some ordinance. There was no need to take him to a police station. The nearby woman could have assisted the police as she is the partner of the boy's father. Were I a bystander, I would have been arrested by the police because I would have intervened to protect the child from police abuse.

The US police is acting much more careful and mercifully - they simply use shockers and nobody horrifies passing by people with screams.

I agree; the police in America are like paramilitaries.

 

[Igrok_]

Didn't you know that Shakespear is out of the law in Russia? you may be arrested for discussing or reciting it.

 

[Eugene]

Didn't you know that Shakespear is out of the law in Russia? you may be arrested for discussing or reciting it.

After all that bs from media they have such stereotypes about Russia that they will not understand your irony.

 

[miketx]

dang stupid libs are crapping all over themselves to blame trump for this.

 

[pismoe]

bad English from Eugene and Igrok make their posts hard to understand . As far as the kid busker , most likely that he is a beggar or his mother pimp that the cops took into custody . AND , if Eugene and Igrok can't speak / type English they most likely don't understand English . That being said , the readinhg of 'shakespere' is likely a ruse that has been planned out by the kid and mpther . As i said earlier , the reading of 'shakespere' is simply silliness .

 

[Igrok_]

AND , if Eugene and Igrok can't speak / type English they most likely don't understand English .

However, we understand each other well)

 

[pismoe]

well , if correct , you wouldn't be talking about Shakespere . No one ever said there was anything wrong or illegal in reading Shakespere on a street corner . Kid wasn't beaten as the pictures show , my guess is that the kid was just a street beggar at the most innocent or was working to attract customers for his mother Igrok !!

 

[Sonc]

I am not in the business of passing judgement on the parents of children based on one wearing a bikini on Facebook. I witnessed the police assaulting a nine year-old boy and then kidnapping him which is an abuse of police power

You witnessed violation of the law by a child and good job of police to prevent it.
If one follows your logic police has no right to arrest a child even if he is killing someone or steals something.

If in your country it is allowed for children to beg for money than you have bad laws.

In Russia, it is forbidden to arrest anyone under 16.
Where I live, children are not forbidden to be on our streets.

You know very little about Russia and you lie a lot.

УК РФ, Статья 20. Возраст, с которого наступает уголовная ответственность / КонсультантПлюс

1. Уголовной ответственности подлежит лицо, достигшее ко времени совершения преступления шестнадцатилетнего возраста.
1. A person who has attained the age of 16 at the time of committing a crime shall be criminally liable.
It is a question of milder verdicts of the court and special punishment regimes for minors.

As for the video, I think they are actors.

The police should check. Maybe this child is forced to make money?

I do not see a problem. If this woman is a friend of her parents ... she could say
- what is the problem?
- We should check.
- Well, I know his parents, can I go with you?
- of course. You will be able to help us to understand the situation correctly.


What is the point of pushing the Poltzian?

A child does not call her by name.
- Sveta, help me!
She does not call him by name
- Andrew calm down ... everything will be fine.

They scream. Orut. They push the policeman. And they do not say anything important ... 0 ...

This is inadequate behavior.





7:30
They did not say where they were taking him.

7:35
-Where do you take him?
-*Says address

7:20
- I'm a child's friend.... I'm a neighbor
- You are a neighbor
- so...
- We need his parents


Here's the purse. Obviously for money. For Hamlet =)

Here this boy reads poetry a month ago elsewhere.
http://www.mk.ru/upload/entities/20...fe/8a/d1/b98fee16f9563383b19b0c6437e99c33.jpg





Here the mother is asked - why did you say that you are a neighbor and not a mother? - they did not let me tell ... What a nonsense? She spoke without stopping =))) That she is a neighbor =)))

 

[Eloy]

... As for the video, I think they are actors. ...

In that case, I am lost for words.