Russian passenger plane crashes near Moscow, 71 killed

[McFury]

Trump never did show his tax returns, Clinton would of been tarred and feathered by now if she refused.

Kerry's Wife Won't Release Tax Returns

When was she the Potus or running for the position? I so missed that.

And yet she did, Kerry's wife allows Americans a glimpse of her $750m fortune

Btw didn't rachel provide that trump.paid 40 million in taxes one year, shouldn't that be enough for you?

Funny how the only tax return he probably paid in, she got, he must of mailed them to her. 2005 and the 1040 tells very little. Not good enough. Lies, lies and more lies. I think Jr said they have been doing business with Russia since 2006.

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years.
He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Trump never did show his tax returns, Clinton would of been tarred and feathered by now if she refused.

Kerry's Wife Won't Release Tax Returns

When was she the Potus or running for the position? I so missed that.

And yet she did, Kerry's wife allows Americans a glimpse of her $750m fortune

Btw didn't rachel provide that trump.paid 40 million in taxes one year, shouldn't that be enough for you?

Funny how the only tax return he probably paid in, she got, he must of mailed them to her. 2005 and the 1040 tells very little. Not good enough. Lies, lies and more lies. I think Jr said they have been doing business with Russia since 2006.

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years.
He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

His company did not him, and it's pretty damn good 6 companies filing bankrupt out of 120.

 

[McFury]

Kerry's Wife Won't Release Tax Returns

When was she the Potus or running for the position? I so missed that.

And yet she did, Kerry's wife allows Americans a glimpse of her $750m fortune

Btw didn't rachel provide that trump.paid 40 million in taxes one year, shouldn't that be enough for you?

Funny how the only tax return he probably paid in, she got, he must of mailed them to her. 2005 and the 1040 tells very little. Not good enough. Lies, lies and more lies. I think Jr said they have been doing business with Russia since 2006.

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years.
He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

His company did not him, and it's pretty damn good 6 companies filing bankrupt out of 120.

I know that he is a very smart business man.
Everybody knows that even the Democrats.
Hope he fixes the economy otherwise we will all be filing for Bankruptcy to the Chinese.

 

[Wyatt earp]

When was she the Potus or running for the position? I so missed that.

And yet she did, Kerry's wife allows Americans a glimpse of her $750m fortune

Btw didn't rachel provide that trump.paid 40 million in taxes one year, shouldn't that be enough for you?

Funny how the only tax return he probably paid in, she got, he must of mailed them to her. 2005 and the 1040 tells very little. Not good enough. Lies, lies and more lies. I think Jr said they have been doing business with Russia since 2006.

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years.
He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

His company did not him, and it's pretty damn good 6 companies filing bankrupt out of 120.

I know that he is a very smart business man.
Everybody knows that even the Democrats.
Hope he fixes the economy otherwise we will all be filing for Bankruptcy to the Chinese.

Ah just sell China California, problem solved.

 

[McFury]

Btw didn't rachel provide that trump.paid 40 million in taxes one year, shouldn't that be enough for you?

Funny how the only tax return he probably paid in, she got, he must of mailed them to her. 2005 and the 1040 tells very little. Not good enough. Lies, lies and more lies. I think Jr said they have been doing business with Russia since 2006.

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years.
He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

His company did not him, and it's pretty damn good 6 companies filing bankrupt out of 120.

I know that he is a very smart business man.
Everybody knows that even the Democrats.
Hope he fixes the economy otherwise we will all be filing for Bankruptcy to the Chinese.

Ah just sell China California, problem solved.

We can't sell Hollywood to China.
Maybe we let them settle in San Francisco.

 

[Penelope]

Trump never did show his tax returns, Clinton would of been tarred and feathered by now if she refused.

Kerry's Wife Won't Release Tax Returns

When was she the Potus or running for the position? I so missed that.

And yet she did, Kerry's wife allows Americans a glimpse of her $750m fortune

Btw didn't rachel provide that trump.paid 40 million in taxes one year, shouldn't that be enough for you?

Funny how the only tax return he probably paid in, she got, he must of mailed them to her. 2005 and the 1040 tells very little. Not good enough. Lies, lies and more lies. I think Jr said they have been doing business with Russia since 2006.

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years.
He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

I have heard 5 but who is counting. He is not a smart businessman , he hires the best tax attorneys and lawsuits are his game. He has taken advantage of many small companies. He is a scam artist, a charlatan.
I have heard over 300 LLC's. He is going to bankrupt the US. So many people have been screwed by him, now its our turn.

 

[Stratford57]

Ok, back to the subject of the thread with some updates as I promised before.

Russia says deadly plane crash may have been caused by human error

Isn't the cause of plane crashes always human error?

The flight crew make a mistake
Support personnel on the ground make a mistake
Maintenance is shoddy
Components aren't manufactured to specs
Incorrect specifications are mandated
etc.
etc.

Today's updates:
MOSCOW, February 13. The crash of the passenger plane near Moscow could have been caused by the incorrect data on the flight’s speed as a result of the sensors icing up, the Interstate Aviation Committee said on Tuesday, after deciphering the flight data recorder

"A preliminary analysis of the recorded information, and also the analysis of similar cases that occurred in the past suggest that a distinct situation could have developed in mid-air due to incorrect data on the flight’s speed on the pilots’ displays. This in turn, could have been linked to the ice-up of the total pressure probes since their heating systems were switched off," the Interstate Aviation Committee said.

"During all the other flights registered on the flight recorder [15 more flights], the heating of the total pressure probes was switched on before takeoff in its line-up position," the Interstate Aviation Committee said in its report.

An emergency situation developed aboard the crashed An-148 passenger plane about 2.5 minutes after takeoff, the Interstate Aviation Committee also said.

At that moment, the passenger plane’s flight recorders recorded divergences between the readings of the speed sensors, it said.
Experts decode possible cause behind An-148 jet crash

Also: the plane was manufactured in Ukraine where all other AN planes used to be manufactured. On Tuesday, the Antonov company’s press service told TASS that Ukraine planned to send five experts to Russia to take part in investigating the recent Antonov An-148 plane crash.
Ukraine ready to join probe into An-148 crash

 

[Stratford57]

I guess it would be a conspiracy of the Deep States's Fifth Column in Russia.

As far as I know, there is no "terror attack" version of the plane crash. Techniques failure and pilot's mistake are the two main versions so far.

Hmm....is that what they are saying now?

Interesting, thank you Stratford57

I don't know ..... things are still very fluid, I'm waiting to hear how this news develops.

I'll try to keep you informed. If I hear something new from Russian news I'll post it here.

MOSCOW, February 12. /TASS/. A special expert commission of the CIS Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC) has started deciphering the flight recorders of the An-148 passenger plane that had crashed outside Moscow on Sunday

The preliminary results are expected in the next 24 hours, the IAC said.

A criminal case on charges of violations of flight safety and aircraft operation rules
Aviation specialists start deciphering crashed plane’s flight recorders

Trump offers condolences to Putin over An-148 crash

Victims pictures and lots of details in Daily Mail article:

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Footage shows Russian plane crashing near Moscow | Daily Mail Online

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Believers will hold at the Cathedral of Christ the Savior share in memory of those killed in the crash of An-148 – Russia news today

There were no lists of persons killed? A boy with a shirt with English?

Skye has provided the full list of the people killed in the crash in her Post #77 of this thread.

A boy with a shirt with English words "Dangerous flight" was Ilya Poletayev, 17. A lot more pictures of the victims and their names you can find in:
Footage shows Russian plane crashing near Moscow | Daily Mail Online

 

[SAYIT]

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years...

Given the complexity of his returns I'd venture to say many CPA's would not understand them. When one does the kind of biz Trump Inc does, one needs a number of accountants to get 'er done.

He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

His company did not him, and it's pretty damn good 6 companies filing bankrupt out of 120.

I know that he is a very smart business man. Everybody knows that even the Democrats.
Hope he fixes the economy otherwise we will all be filing for Bankruptcy to the Chinese.

So from one side of your mouth he's not smart enough to comprehend the 1040 tax form and from the other side there is the recognition that he's a very smart biz guy. That still puts you light years ahead of most whiny, sniveling, Trump-hating Dems who are incapable of a nice word about the guy.
You should read some of the silliness they post about the POTUS.

BTW, unfortunately no Prez can fix our economy, not that it's doing too badly. That is the job of Americans. What I hope he can do is drain the fucking WashDC swamp and end or curtail their tyranny. There are many there who will not relinquish their power, positions, or posh lifestyles (on our dime) without a bloody fight. Hopefully only theirs is spilled.

 

[SAYIT]

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years. He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

I have heard 5 but who is counting. He is not a smart businessman , he hires the best tax attorneys and lawsuits are his game. He has taken advantage of many small companies. He is a scam artist, a charlatan.
I have heard over 300 LLC's. He is going to bankrupt the US. So many people have been screwed by him, now its our turn.

Bitter, hate-filled loony left-tards say the silliest things. Trump Inc does best when America does best.

 

[Penelope]

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years. He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

I have heard 5 but who is counting. He is not a smart businessman , he hires the best tax attorneys and lawsuits are his game. He has taken advantage of many small companies. He is a scam artist, a charlatan.
I have heard over 300 LLC's. He is going to bankrupt the US. So many people have been screwed by him, now its our turn.

Bitter, hate-filled loony left-tards say the silliest things. Trump Inc does best when America does best.

Trump Inc, is a whole bunch of LLC's. Trump does well no matter what, he is now living free off of tax payers money, can't do better than that, and playing golf at his resorts every weekend , yes Trump is doing well. Just wait. He is a reality TV person, and a female assaulter, among many other underhanded things.

 

[Jackson]

I guess it would be a conspiracy of the Deep States's Fifth Column in Russia.

As far as I know, there is no "terror attack" version of the plane crash. Techniques failure and pilot's mistake are the two main versions so far.

Hmm....is that what they are saying now?

Interesting, thank you Stratford57

I don't know ..... things are still very fluid, I'm waiting to hear how this news develops.

I'll try to keep you informed. If I hear something new from Russian news I'll post it here.

MOSCOW, February 12. /TASS/. A special expert commission of the CIS Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC) has started deciphering the flight recorders of the An-148 passenger plane that had crashed outside Moscow on Sunday

The preliminary results are expected in the next 24 hours, the IAC said.

A criminal case on charges of violations of flight safety and aircraft operation rules
Aviation specialists start deciphering crashed plane’s flight recorders

Trump offers condolences to Putin over An-148 crash

Victims pictures and lots of details in Daily Mail article:

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View attachment 176265

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Footage shows Russian plane crashing near Moscow | Daily Mail Online

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Believers will hold at the Cathedral of Christ the Savior share in memory of those killed in the crash of An-148 – Russia news today

There were no lists of persons killed? A boy with a shirt with English?

Skye has provided the full list of the people killed in the crash in her Post #77 of this thread.

A boy with a shirt with English words "Dangerous flight" was Ilya Poletayev, 17. A lot more pictures of the victims and their names you can find in:
Footage shows Russian plane crashing near Moscow | Daily Mail Online

Maybe I missed it, but I looked ar your link and have not found a list.

 

[Jackson]

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years. He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

I have heard 5 but who is counting. He is not a smart businessman , he hires the best tax attorneys and lawsuits are his game. He has taken advantage of many small companies. He is a scam artist, a charlatan.
I have heard over 300 LLC's. He is going to bankrupt the US. So many people have been screwed by him, now its our turn.

Bitter, hate-filled loony left-tards say the silliest things. Trump Inc does best when America does best.

Trump Inc, is a whole bunch of LLC's. Trump does well no matter what, he is now living free off of tax payers money, can't do better than that, and playing golf at his resorts every weekend , yes Trump is doing well. Just wait. He is a reality TV person, and a female assaulter, among many other underhanded things.

Feel free to provide links for your accusations,

 

[bodecea]

Ok, back to the subject of the thread with some updates as I promised before.

Russia says deadly plane crash may have been caused by human error

Isn't the cause of plane crashes always human error?

The flight crew make a mistake
Support personnel on the ground make a mistake
Maintenance is shoddy
Components aren't manufactured to specs
Incorrect specifications are mandated
etc.
etc.

Today's updates:
MOSCOW, February 13. The crash of the passenger plane near Moscow could have been caused by the incorrect data on the flight’s speed as a result of the sensors icing up, the Interstate Aviation Committee said on Tuesday, after deciphering the flight data recorder

"A preliminary analysis of the recorded information, and also the analysis of similar cases that occurred in the past suggest that a distinct situation could have developed in mid-air due to incorrect data on the flight’s speed on the pilots’ displays. This in turn, could have been linked to the ice-up of the total pressure probes since their heating systems were switched off," the Interstate Aviation Committee said.

"During all the other flights registered on the flight recorder [15 more flights], the heating of the total pressure probes was switched on before takeoff in its line-up position," the Interstate Aviation Committee said in its report.

An emergency situation developed aboard the crashed An-148 passenger plane about 2.5 minutes after takeoff, the Interstate Aviation Committee also said.

At that moment, the passenger plane’s flight recorders recorded divergences between the readings of the speed sensors, it said.
Experts decode possible cause behind An-148 jet crash

Also: the plane was manufactured in Ukraine where all other AN planes used to be manufactured. On Tuesday, the Antonov company’s press service told TASS that Ukraine planned to send five experts to Russia to take part in investigating the recent Antonov An-148 plane crash.
Ukraine ready to join probe into An-148 crash

If your pitot tube heat is off, you will get false airspeed readings in freezing weather alright.

 

[Stratford57]

As far as I know, there is no "terror attack" version of the plane crash. Techniques failure and pilot's mistake are the two main versions so far.

Hmm....is that what they are saying now?

Interesting, thank you Stratford57

I don't know ..... things are still very fluid, I'm waiting to hear how this news develops.

I'll try to keep you informed. If I hear something new from Russian news I'll post it here.

MOSCOW, February 12. /TASS/. A special expert commission of the CIS Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC) has started deciphering the flight recorders of the An-148 passenger plane that had crashed outside Moscow on Sunday

The preliminary results are expected in the next 24 hours, the IAC said.

A criminal case on charges of violations of flight safety and aircraft operation rules
Aviation specialists start deciphering crashed plane’s flight recorders

Trump offers condolences to Putin over An-148 crash

Victims pictures and lots of details in Daily Mail article:

View attachment 176264

View attachment 176265

View attachment 176266

Footage shows Russian plane crashing near Moscow | Daily Mail Online

View attachment 176267

Believers will hold at the Cathedral of Christ the Savior share in memory of those killed in the crash of An-148 – Russia news today

There were no lists of persons killed? A boy with a shirt with English?

Skye has provided the full list of the people killed in the crash in her Post #77 of this thread.

A boy with a shirt with English words "Dangerous flight" was Ilya Poletayev, 17. A lot more pictures of the victims and their names you can find in:
Footage shows Russian plane crashing near Moscow | Daily Mail Online

Maybe I missed it, but I looked ar your link and have not found a list.

I just told you: Skye has provided the full list of the people killed in the crash in her Post #77 of this thread.
Russian passenger plane crashes near Moscow, 71 killed

 

[Penelope]

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years. He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

I have heard 5 but who is counting. He is not a smart businessman , he hires the best tax attorneys and lawsuits are his game. He has taken advantage of many small companies. He is a scam artist, a charlatan.
I have heard over 300 LLC's. He is going to bankrupt the US. So many people have been screwed by him, now its our turn.

Bitter, hate-filled loony left-tards say the silliest things. Trump Inc does best when America does best.

Trump Inc, is a whole bunch of LLC's. Trump does well no matter what, he is now living free off of tax payers money, can't do better than that, and playing golf at his resorts every weekend , yes Trump is doing well. Just wait. He is a reality TV person, and a female assaulter, among many other underhanded things.

Feel free to provide links for your accusations,

Links to what, that he has lots of LLC's. Is he living free, yes, does he golf every weekend, yes, alleged assaulter, well he admitted it on the Hollywood tape, I have watched and known about Trump for years, read my links in my signatures.

 

[Coyote]

Also dead in this plane crash is Ivanov Vyacheslav the CFO of Rosatom who is involved in Hillary's Uranium One deal with Russia back in 2009 under Barack Obama.


The Associated Press February 11, 2018 8:05 am

Russian passenger plane crashes near Moscow, 71 killed

^^^^ Bode why do you Funny a post about people dying in a plane crash? There is nothing funny about people dying in a plane crash.

Can you imagine dying in a plane crash?


That must really suck the big one, you know your going down and then feel your body get blown up in a million little pieces?

"Can you imagine dying in a plane crash?"

Well yes I can, my Mama and I have survived a plane crash and amazingly we walked away with just minor cuts and bruises but others died, I do not want to elaborate because this still confuses and troubles me that we were chosen to live and those other peoples chosen to die and I still feel guilty about that but I do not know why as that entire happening was not in my or Mama's hands but in Our Lords, but it's a weird and confusing feeling to have to live with and when I die I feel that I somehow have to go to those other peoples and I do not know apologise to them.

 

[Jackson]

Hmm....is that what they are saying now?

Interesting, thank you Stratford57

I don't know ..... things are still very fluid, I'm waiting to hear how this news develops.

I'll try to keep you informed. If I hear something new from Russian news I'll post it here.

MOSCOW, February 12. /TASS/. A special expert commission of the CIS Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC) has started deciphering the flight recorders of the An-148 passenger plane that had crashed outside Moscow on Sunday

The preliminary results are expected in the next 24 hours, the IAC said.

A criminal case on charges of violations of flight safety and aircraft operation rules
Aviation specialists start deciphering crashed plane’s flight recorders

Trump offers condolences to Putin over An-148 crash

Victims pictures and lots of details in Daily Mail article:

View attachment 176264

View attachment 176265

View attachment 176266

Footage shows Russian plane crashing near Moscow | Daily Mail Online

View attachment 176267

Believers will hold at the Cathedral of Christ the Savior share in memory of those killed in the crash of An-148 – Russia news today

There were no lists of persons killed? A boy with a shirt with English?

Skye has provided the full list of the people killed in the crash in her Post #77 of this thread.

A boy with a shirt with English words "Dangerous flight" was Ilya Poletayev, 17. A lot more pictures of the victims and their names you can find in:
Footage shows Russian plane crashing near Moscow | Daily Mail Online

Maybe I missed it, but I looked ar your link and have not found a list.

I just told you: Skye has provided the full list of the people killed in the crash in her Post #77 of this thread.
Russian passenger plane crashes near Moscow, 71 killed

Yes, but that link doesn't have a list of passengers on the flight. Thus the questionable Uranium One actor
cannot be proven to be on that flight. Did I miss it?

 

[McFury]

Kerry's Wife Won't Release Tax Returns

When was she the Potus or running for the position? I so missed that.

And yet she did, Kerry's wife allows Americans a glimpse of her $750m fortune

Btw didn't rachel provide that trump.paid 40 million in taxes one year, shouldn't that be enough for you?

Funny how the only tax return he probably paid in, she got, he must of mailed them to her. 2005 and the 1040 tells very little. Not good enough. Lies, lies and more lies. I think Jr said they have been doing business with Russia since 2006.

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years.
He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

I have heard 5 but who is counting. He is not a smart businessman , he hires the best tax attorneys and lawsuits are his game. He has taken advantage of many small companies. He is a scam artist, a charlatan.
I have heard over 300 LLC's. He is going to bankrupt the US. So many people have been screwed by him, now its our turn.

Trump still built Casinos in Vegas and Atlantic City plus Skyscrapers in NY and all over the world.
He is still a shrewd Businessman.
Big mouth yes.
But not stupid.
Read his book The art of the deal.

 

[McFury]

Trump would not comprehend the 1040 tax form if you put it on his desk for 4 years. He filed for Bankruptcy 4 times.

I have heard 5 but who is counting. He is not a smart businessman , he hires the best tax attorneys and lawsuits are his game. He has taken advantage of many small companies. He is a scam artist, a charlatan.
I have heard over 300 LLC's. He is going to bankrupt the US. So many people have been screwed by him, now its our turn.

Bitter, hate-filled loony left-tards say the silliest things. Trump Inc does best when America does best.

Im independent you Looney Tunes.
I voted for Bernie Sanders from Vermont New England and not for Hillary or Trump.
Hillary fucked everything up by not walking away and letting Bernie face Trump.
Trump would have lost to Sanders.