Roy Moore: "Immorality Sweeps Over The Land"

[martybegan]

Moore violated the Constitution when he posted the Ten Commandments on his Court House property or inside of it. He was specifically cited for violating the establishment clause of the first amendment.

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Oh, the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States before the 14th amendment. The States could criminalize being a jew if they'd wanted to. Or suppress free speech. Or set up voting rules to prevent black folks from voting.

Which might explain Moore's favor of eliminating every amendment after the 10th.

He's still living rent free in your heads, which is sad and comical.

 

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As for the fallibility of SCOTUS, it would not be the first time they rendered an incorrect ruling. Need I remind anyone of the Dred Scott decision?

 

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Moore violated the Constitution when he posted the Ten Commandments on his Court House property or inside of it. He was specifically cited for violating the establishment clause of the first amendment.

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

 

[martybegan]

Moore violated the Constitution when he posted the Ten Commandments on his Court House property or inside of it. He was specifically cited for violating the establishment clause of the first amendment.

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

14th amendment didn't change it.

The guys who wrote the 14th amendment rejected applying the national restriction to the states (see Blaine amendment which failed in the Senate). So they sure as hell didn't think the 14th amendment applied to the establishment of religion clause.

The 14th Amendment and the Bill of Rights

Yes the 10th amendment foundation's view is know, but it is not entirely correct.

A "privilege" of being a US citizen is protection of free speech, gun ownership, and freedom of Religion, the states can't impact those, so by extension anything covered by the bill of rights cannot be played around with by the States.

 

[martybegan]

Moore violated the Constitution when he posted the Ten Commandments on his Court House property or inside of it. He was specifically cited for violating the establishment clause of the first amendment.

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?

 

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Moore violated the Constitution when he posted the Ten Commandments on his Court House property or inside of it. He was specifically cited for violating the establishment clause of the first amendment.

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

14th amendment didn't change it.

The guys who wrote the 14th amendment rejected applying the national restriction to the states (see Blaine amendment which failed in the Senate). So they sure as hell didn't think the 14th amendment applied to the establishment of religion clause.

The 14th Amendment and the Bill of Rights

Yes the 10th amendment foundation's view is know, but it is not entirely correct.

A "privilege" of being a US citizen is protection of free speech, gun ownership, and freedom of Religion, the states can't impact those, so by extension anything covered by the bill of rights cannot be played around with by the States.

I was only using that site to refer to the Blaine Amendment.

The Blaine Amendment was an attempt to enforce the restriction on establishment of religion upon the states. An amendment which was voted on and rejected by the same people who wrote the 14th amendment.

And that in no way were the authors of the 14th amendment under the belief that they were rewriting the 1st amendment.

The overreach on applying the 14th amendment is colossal. It was a very narrow amendment that was written for a very specific purpose which namely was to get Democrats to accept that blacks were human beings with rights.

 

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Moore violated the Constitution when he posted the Ten Commandments on his Court House property or inside of it. He was specifically cited for violating the establishment clause of the first amendment.

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?

Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

 

[Skylar]

Moore violated the Constitution when he posted the Ten Commandments on his Court House property or inside of it. He was specifically cited for violating the establishment clause of the first amendment.

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Oh, the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States before the 14th amendment. The States could criminalize being a jew if they'd wanted to. Or suppress free speech. Or set up voting rules to prevent black folks from voting.

Which might explain Moore's favor of eliminating every amendment after the 10th.

He's still living rent free in your heads, which is sad and comical.

Laughing.....the election was the day before *yesterday*. Moore hasn't even conceded yet. Give it a few more before you start throwing up excuses to flee the conversation.

Also, this man received the blessing of the GOP and Trump. Even in defeat, they own his message.

 

[Skylar]

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?

Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Marty occasionally joins threads to derail them. He's in full derail glory this morning.

 

[Skylar]

Moore violated the Constitution when he posted the Ten Commandments on his Court House property or inside of it. He was specifically cited for violating the establishment clause of the first amendment.

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

14th amendment didn't change it.

The guys who wrote the 14th amendment rejected applying the national restriction to the states (see Blaine amendment which failed in the Senate). So they sure as hell didn't think the 14th amendment applied to the establishment of religion clause.

The 14th Amendment and the Bill of Rights

Both Howard and Bingham introduced the 14th as a way of applying the BIll of Rights to the States. Howard went so far as to actually read the Bill of Rights, word for word, as what the 14th amendment was meant to apply to the States. Bingham, in arguing why something like the 14th was necessary specifically cited the federal governments ability to impose restricitons on the States in the way they treat their citizens.

He even cited Barron V. Baltimore specifically as an example of the Supreme Court's acknowledgement of how the Federal Government couldn't apply the Bill of Rights to the States under the Constitution....an how the proposed amendment could change that.

Bingham even went so far as to claim that if such an amendment had existed before the Civil war, the war might have been avoided.

Which might explain why Moore is so keen to eliminate the 14th amendment. And any amendment after the 10th.

 

[OldLady]

When your moral certitude infringes upon another man's constitutional rights you have no place in a seat of power in the United States of America.

Name these Constitutional rights that Moore was against? It wouldnt be Gay marriage would it?

So now Gay Mafia is trying to completely shut all opposition out of the American political system; interesting that you use 'civil rights' ironically enough as the argument for that.

Just who is this "suffering humanity" that Moore thinks he must set free?
The man is a fruitcake, Jim.

 

[Skylar]

When your moral certitude infringes upon another man's constitutional rights you have no place in a seat of power in the United States of America.

Name these Constitutional rights that Moore was against? It wouldnt be Gay marriage would it?

So now Gay Mafia is trying to completely shut all opposition out of the American political system; interesting that you use 'civil rights' ironically enough as the argument for that.

Just who is this "suffering humanity" that Moore thinks he must set free?
The man is a fruitcake, Jim.

And a birther. Kinda redundant, I know.

 

[Skylar]

Moore violated the Constitution when he posted the Ten Commandments on his Court House property or inside of it. He was specifically cited for violating the establishment clause of the first amendment.

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

14th amendment didn't change it.

The guys who wrote the 14th amendment rejected applying the national restriction to the states (see Blaine amendment which failed in the Senate). So they sure as hell didn't think the 14th amendment applied to the establishment of religion clause.

The 14th Amendment and the Bill of Rights

Yes the 10th amendment foundation's view is know, but it is not entirely correct.

A "privilege" of being a US citizen is protection of free speech, gun ownership, and freedom of Religion, the states can't impact those, so by extension anything covered by the bill of rights cannot be played around with by the States.

Barron v. Baltimore said differently. Specifically, that the federal government lacks the authority to enforce the Bill of Rights on the States in the early 1800s.

And the Blaine Amendment came years AFTER the 14th. Blaine wasn't even elected to congress until half a decade AFTER the 14th was written and ratified. Blaine wasn't a writer of the 14th. Bingham and Howard were. And they were explicit that their purpose in the amendment was to apply the Bill of Rights to the States.

Howard even read the Bill of Rights, word for word, into the congressional record as what would be applied to the States under the 14th amendment when introducing it to the Senate.

Which might explain Moore's aversion to the 14th. And every amendment past the 10th.

 

[Pop23]

When your moral certitude infringes upon another man's constitutional rights you have no place in a seat of power in the United States of America.

Name these Constitutional rights that Moore was against? It wouldnt be Gay marriage would it?

So now Gay Mafia is trying to completely shut all opposition out of the American political system; interesting that you use 'civil rights' ironically enough as the argument for that.

The Progressive lefts goal is the destruction of all religion. Gay's wish the same. It's the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thought process. Funny thing is, if the Left succeeds, they will turn on Gay Americans as sure as Bears shit in the woods.

 

[rightwinger]

To Creepy Roy........Being homosexual is immoral while soliciting teens at the local mall is not

 

[evenflow1969]

When your moral certitude infringes upon another man's constitutional rights you have no place in a seat of power in the United States of America.

Name these Constitutional rights that Moore was against? It wouldnt be Gay marriage would it?

So now Gay Mafia is trying to completely shut all opposition out of the American political system; interesting that you use 'civil rights' ironically enough as the argument for that.

The Progressive lefts goal is the destruction of all religion. Gay's wish the same. It's the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thought process. Funny thing is, if the Left succeeds, they will turn on Gay Americans as sure as Bears shit in the woods.

A bear only shits in the woods if some one is there to witness it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry a little quantum physics joke.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Roy Moore turns refusal to concede into religious crusade: ‘Immorality sweeps over the land’

A day after losing the Senate race in Alabama to Democrat Doug Jones, Roy Moore has issued a new statement refusing to concede the election. But it wasn’t your typical post-election statement.

It was a four-minute fire-and-brimstone video about abortion, same-sex marriage, school prayer, sodomy, and “the right of a man to claim to be a woman and vice versa.”

“We are indeed in a struggle to preserve our republic, our civilization and our religion and to set free a suffering humanity,” Moore said. “Today, we no longer recognize the universal truth that God is the author of our life and liberty. Abortion, sodomy and materialism have taken the place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

In the video issued by the campaign Wednesday evening, Moore said his campaign is still waiting for the official vote count from Alabama officials. The Republican candidate framed the election as not just a political contest but also a dire ideological battle for “the heart and soul of our country.”

You've been removed as Chief Justice twice. You lost two primaries for the governorship. You lost the Senate race to a Democrat in a solid red state. Maybe God isn't as hot on you as you'd think. Go away.

He's one of the sizeable minority who call themselves 'devout Christians' who aren't Christians at all. They excuse anything and everything THEY do while pointing a crooked finger at everyone else. Yet people like this want desperately to force everyone else to live as they do.

Disgusting.

 

[martybegan]

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?

Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Why don't you just answer the question?

 

[martybegan]

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?

Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Marty occasionally joins threads to derail them. He's in full derail glory this morning.

I asked a perfectly legitamate question.

 

[martybegan]

Actually he didn't. The establishment clause was written to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion. State governments are free to establish state religions.

Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Oh, the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States before the 14th amendment. The States could criminalize being a jew if they'd wanted to. Or suppress free speech. Or set up voting rules to prevent black folks from voting.

Which might explain Moore's favor of eliminating every amendment after the 10th.

He's still living rent free in your heads, which is sad and comical.

Laughing.....the election was the day before *yesterday*. Moore hasn't even conceded yet. Give it a few more before you start throwing up excuses to flee the conversation.

Also, this man received the blessing of the GOP and Trump. Even in defeat, they own his message.

"Blessing"