Romney: No need to detail how I’ll pay for massive tax cuts. Just trust me.

[The Rabbi]

My, my. Really researched this before you posted your usual nonsense, right, Rabid?

Do Lower Taxes Create Jobs? Let

How higher taxes affect personal income

The Tax Foundation, a respected conservative-leaning group, has analyzed tax issues since 1937. They publish reports showing the average income and average tax load for all 50 states. Their analysis includes all state and local taxes.

I've charted this data (below) and added a green line to separate the states with high incomes from the rest. Aside from a few outliers, the trend is obvious: All but one of the states that enjoy higher incomes (greater than $50,000 per person) also impose higher total taxes (above 9 percent). At the same time, all but one of the states that keep taxes low (less than 9 percent) have lower incomes.

In picture form...

So, low taxes and low wages or high taxes and high wages...decisions, decisions.

North Carolina has one of the highest tax rates and one the the highest unemployment rate.

It's idiotic.
You need to look at things like growth over time. States with low tax show far greater growth over time than high tax states.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

In picture form...

So, low taxes and low wages or high taxes and high wages...decisions, decisions.

North Carolina has one of the highest tax rates and one the the highest unemployment rate.

It's idiotic.
You need to look at things like growth over time. States with low tax show far greater growth over time than high tax states.

I don't know about other states I just know about north Carolina and the democrat gov. that raised taxes back in 09

 

[Old Rocks]

My, my. Really researched this before you posted your usual nonsense, right, Rabid?

Do Lower Taxes Create Jobs? Let

How higher taxes affect personal income

The Tax Foundation, a respected conservative-leaning group, has analyzed tax issues since 1937. They publish reports showing the average income and average tax load for all 50 states. Their analysis includes all state and local taxes.

I've charted this data (below) and added a green line to separate the states with high incomes from the rest. Aside from a few outliers, the trend is obvious: All but one of the states that enjoy higher incomes (greater than $50,000 per person) also impose higher total taxes (above 9 percent). At the same time, all but one of the states that keep taxes low (less than 9 percent) have lower incomes.

In picture form...

So, low taxes and low wages or high taxes and high wages...decisions, decisions.

And I'll bet you can't tell me what's wrong with that theory.

Not a theory, dumb ass, it is direct observation. It is your insistance that low taxes equals high incomes that is a theory. Bush did his tax cuts and borrowed massively. And look at the record, at the time he left office, his policies had resulted in a 750,000 per month loss of jobs. Real income for the average American was falling, and net worth was dropping like a rock.

You 'Conservatives' failed big time, and now you are trying to make a case for doubling down on that failure.

 

[Old Rocks]

In picture form...

So, low taxes and low wages or high taxes and high wages...decisions, decisions.

North Carolina has one of the highest tax rates and one the the highest unemployment rate.

It's idiotic.
You need to look at things like growth over time. States with low tax show far greater growth over time than high tax states.

Ah yes. Rabid states that reality disagrees with his theory, therefore, reality is idiotic.

 

[Old Rocks]

North Carolina has one of the highest tax rates and one the the highest unemployment rate.

It's idiotic.
You need to look at things like growth over time. States with low tax show far greater growth over time than high tax states.

I don't know about other states I just know about north Carolina and the democrat gov. that raised taxes back in 09

And where does North Carolina rank in education and income?

 

[The Rabbi]

In picture form...

So, low taxes and low wages or high taxes and high wages...decisions, decisions.

And I'll bet you can't tell me what's wrong with that theory.

Not a theory, dumb ass, it is direct observation. It is your insistance that low taxes equals high incomes that is a theory. Bush did his tax cuts and borrowed massively. And look at the record, at the time he left office, his policies had resulted in a 750,000 per month loss of jobs. Real income for the average American was falling, and net worth was dropping like a rock.

You 'Conservatives' failed big time, and now you are trying to make a case for doubling down on that failure.

You are a moron of galactic proportions.
Correlation does not equal causation. Especially in this case.
High tax states started doing that over the last 15 years. They also happen to have (or had) the highest paid employment base. All you see is the residual of those high paying jobs, which are fleeing those states btw. Texas picks up jobs left and right from California. Tennessee has gotten many jobs from Michigan.
Look at rates of growth and low tax states beat high tax states every time.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It's idiotic.
You need to look at things like growth over time. States with low tax show far greater growth over time than high tax states.

I don't know about other states I just know about north Carolina and the democrat gov. that raised taxes back in 09

And where does North Carolina rank in education and income?

oh wow here we go with the twist out of what you said into a new platform.
North Carolina has one of the highest tax rates and unemployment rates. That is the subject stay on track.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The discussion we should be having at this point is why do people think it's a good thing to have a class of extremely wealthy folks that leech off the country at every turn?

Again how does a person who keeps more of his own money leech off of anyone?

People who leech are the ones who get back more than they pay in.

 

[JoeNormal]

It makes me laugh how the left, who voted for Obama in their droves... and who had no detailed plans, no experience, nothing except pretty speeches to go on... and that was smart. Now, suddenly, they need 'details'.

The double standards of liberals is very funny.

The original plan called for the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. Grover Norquist and his brain dead republican minions messed that up but good.

 

[The Rabbi]

It makes me laugh how the left, who voted for Obama in their droves... and who had no detailed plans, no experience, nothing except pretty speeches to go on... and that was smart. Now, suddenly, they need 'details'.

The double standards of liberals is very funny.

The original plan called for the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. Grover Norquist and his brain dead republican minions messed that up but good.

Grover Norquist calls the shots int he Democratic Party? Who knew?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yup. Hope and change carried the day.

The sad thing is that most of his supporters think he's doing a good job. Apparantly the UE numbers and the crappy economy don't seem to mean much. I mean with another 4yrs he'll get er done.

Of course he stated that if he couldn't get er done in one term than he didn't deserve another.

I think we should hold him to his word.

Who are you kidding? People like you wouldn't be voting for President Obama if UE were down to 4%.

Thats where your wrong dude. If Barry had come in and gotten the economy rolling and UE down to your 4% then I'd be on his bandwagon and shouting his praises to the rooftops.

Unfortunately that didn't happen because Barry's policies haven't worked. Big surprise.

Unlike you I call a loser a loser when I see one. This guys a clueless loser.

So you voted for Clinton in 96 and Gore in 2000? And for Obama in 2008?

You are lying.

 

[JoeNormal]

It makes me laugh how the left, who voted for Obama in their droves... and who had no detailed plans, no experience, nothing except pretty speeches to go on... and that was smart. Now, suddenly, they need 'details'.

The double standards of liberals is very funny.

The original plan called for the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. Grover Norquist and his brain dead republican minions messed that up but good.

Grover Norquist calls the shots int he Democratic Party? Who knew?

Really? This qualifies as a valid argument in conservativeland? Geezus.

 

[NYcarbineer]

14,500 teachers, cops, and firefighters were laid off when Romney was governor.

Shit, that's nothing.

Under Obama, in the public sector - including federal, state, and local governments - 600,000 jobs have been lost.

So the kind of smaller government that conservatives claim is their no. 1 priority has actually been happening on Obama's watch moreso than on any other presidents' in recent memory,

and yet those same conservatives call him a socialist who only wants bigger and bigger government.

jeezus

 

[Sallow]

The discussion we should be having at this point is why do people think it's a good thing to have a class of extremely wealthy folks that leech off the country at every turn?

That has always been a topic of discussion amongst you Communists.

Life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.... not so much.

You theocratic fascists call everyone commies.

In any case..this was the discussion the founders were having about King George.

You know..your hero.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The original plan called for the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. Grover Norquist and his brain dead republican minions messed that up but good.

Grover Norquist calls the shots int he Democratic Party? Who knew?

Really? This qualifies as a valid argument in conservativeland? Geezus.

lol, you must be new here.

 

[Sallow]

14,500 teachers, cops, and firefighters were laid off when Romney was governor.

Shit, that's nothing.

Under Obama, in the public sector - including federal, state, and local governments - 600,000 jobs have been lost.

So the kind of smaller government that conservatives claim is their no. 1 priority has actually been happening on Obama's watch moreso than on any other presidents' in recent memory,

and yet those same conservatives call him a socialist who only wants bigger and bigger government.

jeezus

You gotta love it.

Reagan was more of a communist then Obama.

 

[Skull Pilot]

14,500 teachers, cops, and firefighters were laid off when Romney was governor.

Shit, that's nothing.

Under Obama, in the public sector - including federal, state, and local governments - 600,000 jobs have been lost.

So the kind of smaller government that conservatives claim is their no. 1 priority has actually been happening on Obama's watch moreso than on any other presidents' in recent memory,

and yet those same conservatives call him a socialist who only wants bigger and bigger government.

jeezus

Tell me if Obama has cut government so much then why have his budgets been larger every year?

And if one is talking about Obama and employees only federal employees not state and local should be enumerated.

 

[The Rabbi]

The original plan called for the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. Grover Norquist and his brain dead republican minions messed that up but good.

Grover Norquist calls the shots int he Democratic Party? Who knew?

Really? This qualifies as a valid argument in conservativeland? Geezus.

Well, the Dums had complete control of COngress and the White House from Jan 2009 until 2011. And in the end it was a solidly Democratic Congress passing a bill to extend the Bush tax cuts, and signed by Obama.
And you blame the GOP??

 

[Sallow]

Shit, that's nothing.

Under Obama, in the public sector - including federal, state, and local governments - 600,000 jobs have been lost.

So the kind of smaller government that conservatives claim is their no. 1 priority has actually been happening on Obama's watch moreso than on any other presidents' in recent memory,

and yet those same conservatives call him a socialist who only wants bigger and bigger government.

jeezus

Tell me if Obama has cut government so much then why have his budgets been larger every year?

And if one is talking about Obama and employees only federal employees not state and local should be enumerated.

First off..that's not true. His budget actually went down one year. Secondly..most of the budget is being used to pay off debt accrued in the last administration.

And state and local employees get to stay on the payrolls because of block grants issued by the Federal government. Of course they should be counted.

 

[blastoff]

Well, look at it from another perspective. What about employees for the state such as teachers, firefighters, police, etc? They will be out of jobs which will just lead to increased unemployment and it could get worse.

Should we cut taxes and save our pocket change at the risk of Education, Crime Rates, Emergency Response and Increased Unemployment? No.

14,500 teachers, cops, and firefighters were laid off when Romney was governor.

Tax breaks for the rich won't solve our problem. If they can't generate revenue, then how will they make the national debt go down?

Why does the left think every gov't employee is a cop, teacher or firefighter?

Because those are the positions which gather the most sympathy for their pro Public Union causes.

Those positions are also good for ginning up fear among dimwit voters. Fewer cops = more crime, less safety. Fewer firefighters = people burning to death in their homes or wherever. Fewer teachers = even more poorly educated children.