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Just guessing..Let us first ask, at what point did America begin its current downward spiral?
Then lets ask what specific events caused that spiral to begin?
Then lets ask what political ideology fostered and financed those specific events?
1913 was a very important year.
1949 was a very important year.
1964 was a very important year.
Just guessing..Let us first ask, at what point did America begin its current downward spiral?
Then lets ask what specific events caused that spiral to begin?
Then lets ask what political ideology fostered and financed those specific events?
1913 was a very important year.
1949 was a very important year.
1964 was a very important year.
1913- Creation of the Federal Reserve?
1949- Israel admitted to UN?
1964- Great Society?
How about 1967? "On June 8, 1967 while patrolling in international waters[2] in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel.[3]"
USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events
Now explain the relevance of 3000 year old mythology to the current illegal 44 year military occupation of Palestine?"Through its illegal 44-year military occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip
The West Bank was Judaea and Samaria, Jewish land, for 3000 years before Jordan seized the land in 1948 and changed the name to the West Bank.
Jerusalem and Gaza have been Jewish land for 3000 years, as well, since King David conquered the Jebusites and Philistines 3 millenia ago.
Open a history book
Now explain the relevance of 3000 year old mythology to the current illegal 44 year military occupation of Palestine?"Through its illegal 44-year military occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip
The West Bank was Judaea and Samaria, Jewish land, for 3000 years before Jordan seized the land in 1948 and changed the name to the West Bank.
Jerusalem and Gaza have been Jewish land for 3000 years, as well, since King David conquered the Jebusites and Philistines 3 millenia ago.
Open a history book
Do all people on this planet have the right to take possession of land their ancestors occupied thousands of years ago?
Or does this right apply only to the "Chosen People"?
Tell it to Liberty's crew.Just guessing..Let us first ask, at what point did America begin its current downward spiral?
Then lets ask what specific events caused that spiral to begin?
Then lets ask what political ideology fostered and financed those specific events?
1913 was a very important year.
1949 was a very important year.
1964 was a very important year.
1913- Creation of the Federal Reserve?
1949- Israel admitted to UN?
1964- Great Society?
How about 1967? "On June 8, 1967 while patrolling in international waters[2] in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel.[3]"
USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events
Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.
But, your jihadist cohorts in Hizballah murdered 300 US Marines in Beirut. No love for them, freak?
Tell it to Liberty's crew.Just guessing..
1913- Creation of the Federal Reserve?
1949- Israel admitted to UN?
1964- Great Society?
How about 1967? "On June 8, 1967 while patrolling in international waters[2] in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel.[3]"
USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events
Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.
But, your jihadist cohorts in Hizballah murdered 300 US Marines in Beirut. No love for them, freak?
"After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack. The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship's research spaces. [20] Twenty-six Americans in addition to the eight who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion.
"Following their torpedo attack, the torpedo boats moved up and down the length of the ship (both the port and starboard sides), continuing their attack, raking the ship with cannon and machine gun fire.[21] In Malta, crewmen were later assigned the task of counting all of the holes in the ship that were the size of a man's hand or larger. They found a total of 861 such holes, in addition to 'thousands' of .50 caliber machine gun holes.
"Survivors report that the torpedo boat crews swept the decks of USS Liberty with continuous machine gun fire, targeting communications equipment and any crewmembers who ventured above decks.[22]
"Damage control firefighters, who had already risked their lives merely by appearing on deck, had to abandon their efforts because their fire hoses had been shredded by machine gun fire.[23]
"Survivors also report that the torpedo boat crews fired on the inflated life boats launched by the crew after the captain gave the order 'prepare to abandon ship.'[24] This order had to be rescinded because the crew was unable to stand on the main deck without being fired upon and the life rafts were destroyed as they were launched.[25]"
USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events
Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.
Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.
Is that a fact?
Please explain why in America there is only one memorial dedicated to the Liberty and her crew. If no crime was committed, if indeed the attack was an accident, why the stanch resistance to memorial sites?
The Great Wisconsin Library WarsMultiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.
Is that a fact?
Please explain why in America there is only one memorial dedicated to the Liberty and her crew. If no crime was committed, if indeed the attack was an accident, why the stanch resistance to memorial sites?
The Wisconsin Library Wars
"The village of Grafton, Wisconsin, chose to honor the USS Liberty by naming its new library after the ship. The complaints that followed filled the local newspapers and airwaves for months. This is the story of the USS Liberty Memorial Public Library and the controversy that followed."
Read more at: The Wisconsin Library Wars, by James Ennes
I have yet to acquire the needed posts (15) to include live links, I ask that others do the required research and post the appropriate links to the Grafton library story, thank you.
The Great Wisconsin Library WarsMultiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.
Is that a fact?
Please explain why in America there is only one memorial dedicated to the Liberty and her crew. If no crime was committed, if indeed the attack was an accident, why the stanch resistance to memorial sites?
The Wisconsin Library Wars
"The village of Grafton, Wisconsin, chose to honor the USS Liberty by naming its new library after the ship. The complaints that followed filled the local newspapers and airwaves for months. This is the story of the USS Liberty Memorial Public Library and the controversy that followed."
Read more at: The Wisconsin Library Wars, by James Ennes
I have yet to acquire the needed posts (15) to include live links, I ask that others do the required research and post the appropriate links to the Grafton library story, thank you.
The Captain of Liberty won the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions on June 8, 1967.
Anyone know if the CMH is ever awarded for "friendly fire" incidents?
How many memorials to the 300 Marines massacred by Muslims in Beirut?
Those Marines would not have been in Beirut if Israel had not invaded Lebanon.The Great Wisconsin Library WarsIs that a fact?
Please explain why in America there is only one memorial dedicated to the Liberty and her crew. If no crime was committed, if indeed the attack was an accident, why the stanch resistance to memorial sites?
The Wisconsin Library Wars
"The village of Grafton, Wisconsin, chose to honor the USS Liberty by naming its new library after the ship. The complaints that followed filled the local newspapers and airwaves for months. This is the story of the USS Liberty Memorial Public Library and the controversy that followed."
Read more at: The Wisconsin Library Wars, by James Ennes
I have yet to acquire the needed posts (15) to include live links, I ask that others do the required research and post the appropriate links to the Grafton library story, thank you.
The Captain of Liberty won the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions on June 8, 1967.
Anyone know if the CMH is ever awarded for "friendly fire" incidents?
No medals for the 300 Marines murdered by your fellow jihadists in Beirut. Pity.
Those Marines would not have been in Beirut if Israel had not invaded Lebanon.The Great Wisconsin Library Wars
The Captain of Liberty won the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions on June 8, 1967.
Anyone know if the CMH is ever awarded for "friendly fire" incidents?
No medals for the 300 Marines murdered by your fellow jihadists in Beirut. Pity.
How much money did vulture capitalists make from Operation Peace for Galilee?
More than those Marines did.
Well, look what a little research found, come to find out there are multiple memorials in America that are dedicated to the Beirut incident.
Many States in the USA also have State Monuments:
Pennsylvania (at Penn's Landing in Philadelphia - photo to come soon)
Florida (just dedicated a monument in 1996)
Many more states also (photos will be solicited and placed here)
beirut-memorial.org/monument/index.html (Please add the hyper prefix)
I did a small search to reference medals and/or honors granted posthumously to those who were killed, I found little beyond the standard Purple Heart award.
Ah! Looks like an acknowledgement that jihad flagtub was engaged in unsavory activity.The Captain of Liberty won the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions on June 8, 1967.Anyone know if the CMH is ever awarded for "friendly fire" incidents?
Good fetching, dog. Here's a bone
Links?Two-thirds of the $50 billion in US foreign aid goes to the Muzzies and Arab sand rats, including Pakistan which protected bin Laden.
Allahu fucku
"One-third of ALL US AID
goes to Israel and Egypt.
"These 2 countries receive
one-third of the total
aid, the majority of which
pays for armaments.
Yet, neither is a 'developing' country."
U.S. Foreign Aid Summary
Go fetch the link, yourself. Two-thirds of the current FY US foreign aid budget is earmarked for the Muslim and Arab countries.