Robbing the Poor to Pay Israel

[Douger]

So you're not only intelluctually dishonest but also an anti-semite?

So anyone that asks questions about US aid to Israel is an anti-semite?

Welcome to murka.

 

[georgephillip]

So anyone that asks questions about US aid to Israel is an anti-semite?

"Yes, we can cut budget"-Americans won't cut free gifts to Israel.
It's political suicide.

It is definitely political suicide for most elected Republicans AND Democrats.
That doesn't mean hundreds of Greens and Libertarians would be subject to the same pressure.
The Internet makes it possible to FLUSH hundreds of incumbents from DC in a single news cycle.
All it takes is the right spark.

 

[georgephillip]

No, you are incorrect. The Jewish Homeland (Yeshuv) increased 50 % by the 1949 armistice, from the orginal "homeland" deliniated by the UN General Assembly. So you are quite wrong (not surprisingly) we did indeed win. We also won that and every war by our mere continued existance

I might also must admit Arrow and Iron Dome are partially funded by the US ...but alas Israel shares propriatry knowlege of the systems with the US. As it and Iron Dome work and many US missile systems...do not.

The Merkava as most weapons systems today around the world makes use of existing "off the shelf" components and systems. But nonetheless the design is Israeli and it is superiour to any other armoured platform in the world the today.

Indeed you "amerkans" are quick to "pat yourselves on the back"

The Serene Corruption of American Politics.

"Sometime in the late 1950s, that world-class gossip and occasional historian, John F. Kennedy, told me how, in 1948, Harry S. Truman had been pretty much abandoned by everyone when he came to run for president.

"Then an American Zionist brought him two million dollars in cash, in a suitcase, aboard his whistle-stop campaign train.

"'That's why our recognition of Israel was rushed through so fast.'

"As neither Jack nor I was an antisemite (unlike his father and my grandfather) we took this to be just another funny story about Truman and the serene corruption of American politics."

Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years

Israel would not exist today if not for corrupt "amerkans"

 

[Seren]

Earth to Ekrem. All new weapons systems incorporate existing "off the shelf" components and systems. The Merkava is strictly an Israeli design and still superiour to the M1-A 1 Abrams. Patriot 1 and 2 were and still are problematic, Arrow and Iron Dome work and Israel shares the technology with the US. The US gets it"s roughly 3 billion per anum in aid worth.

Last year Israel defense contractors exported 7.2 billion dollars in military hardware to the US and the world. The amerkan defense budget can't be parsed and you folks continue to expect to keep safe the US and US interests. Part of protecting the US and US interests is the maintaining of Israel"s qualitative edge over Muslim Arab States.

 

[Seren]

Mr. Georgephillip....Just because someone writes hearsay in a book years ago, about words from a dead man... does not make it accurate.

 

[georgephillip]

Convince me you know more about American History than Gore Vidal.

 

[Seren]

Oh wow ...it is Amerkan history because Gore Vidal said so.

 

[Seren]

I live 8 months of the year in Beit El Israel...once a settlement. The UK /US elites had nothing to do with us building a town and our homes from scratch. And no. YOU or Gore Vidal weren't there or were ever in the Middle East. Google on!

 

[georgephillip]

Oh wow ...it is Amerkan history because Gore Vidal said so.

It's American History because Harry Truman was a US President who went against the advice of some of his closest advisers when he recognized the Jewish state.

"WASHINGTON - 'The epic struggle in Washington over how to respond to Israel's declaration of independence on May 14, 1948 led to the most serious disagreement President Harry Truman ever had with his secretary of state, George C. Marshall - and with most of the foreign policy establishment,' Washington Post columnist Richard Holbrooke wrote on Wednesday.'

Truman's battle for Israel's recognition revealed - Israel News, Ynetnews

Truman'$ mi$take haunts this planet to this very day.

 

[georgephillip]

I live 8 months of the year in Beit El Israel...once a settlement. The UK /US elites had nothing to do with us building a town and our homes from scratch. And no. YOU or Gore Vidal weren't there or were ever in the Middle East. Google on!

What do you expect from the coming collision of Bet-El and Ramallah?

"My second visit to Bet-El was some six years ago.

"I went to attend a wedding there. The place had grown beyond recognition and had a population of 4,000. It was nighttime and the lights of the northeastern outskirts of Ramallah, the temporary capital of the Palestinian Authority, could be seen a mile or more away on the flat horizon.

"Ramallah's buildings weren't that close, but they and Bet-El were clearly heading toward each other.

"When I saw Bet-El a few days ago, it and Ramallah had practically merged.

"A few hundred yards separated them at most. Bet-El has become a town of more than 6,000 people. Ramallah is now a small city with close to 70,000.

"The two are on a collision course in more ways than one."

Bet-El And Ramallah - April 1, 2008 - The New York Sun

 

[JStone]

Two-thirds of the $50 billion in US foreign aid goes to the Muzzies and Arab sand rats, including Pakistan which protected bin Laden.

Allahu fucku

 

[JStone]

So you're not only intelluctually dishonest but also an anti-semite?

Is it intellectually dishonest or antiSemitic to point out three separate congressional delegations are currently in Israel instead of meeting with their constituents and explaining where all the jobs went?

"In total, 81 representatives, nearly one-fifth of the entire House, will participate in these jaunts, which, according to The Washington Post, include 'a round-trip flight in business class for lawmakers and their spouses (that alone is worth about $8,000), fine hotels and meals, side trips, and transportation and guides.'

"Of course, these congressional delegations are not all fun and games.

"Members of Congress will be expected to sing for their lavish dinners by honoring President Bush’s 2007 pledge to provide the Israeli military with $30 billion of tax-payer-funded weapons between 2009 and 2018.

"So far, proposed increases in military aid to Israel have been spared from the budgetary chopping block by President Obama and a compliant Congress that treats Israeli militarism as more sacrosanct than medical care for seniors.

"This despite the fact that Israel misuses the funds, in violation of the Arms Export Control Act, to commit human rights abuses against Palestinians living under its illegal 44-year military occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip."

Robbing Peter to Pay Israel | Common Dreams

Israel receives military hardware, not monetary assistance. Israelis purchase upwards of $15 billion in American products each year, making Israel one of the US's 20 largest export markets and offsetting military assistance.

About $30 billion in US foreign aid goes to the Muzzies and Arab camel riders.

 

[georgephillip]

Two-thirds of the $50 billion in US foreign aid goes to the Muzzies and Arab sand rats, including Pakistan which protected bin Laden.

Allahu fucku

Links?

"One-third of ALL US AID
goes to Israel and Egypt.

"These 2 countries receive
one-third of the total
aid, the majority of which
pays for armaments.
Yet, neither is a 'developing' country."

U.S. Foreign Aid Summary

 

[JStone]

Two-thirds of the $50 billion in US foreign aid goes to the Muzzies and Arab sand rats, including Pakistan which protected bin Laden.

Allahu fucku

Links?

"One-third of ALL US AID
goes to Israel and Egypt.

"These 2 countries receive
one-third of the total
aid, the majority of which
pays for armaments.
Yet, neither is a 'developing' country."

U.S. Foreign Aid Summary

Go fetch the link, yourself. Two-thirds of the current FY US foreign aid budget is earmarked for the Muslim and Arab countries.

 

[georgephillip]

So you're not only intelluctually dishonest but also an anti-semite?

Is it intellectually dishonest or antiSemitic to point out three separate congressional delegations are currently in Israel instead of meeting with their constituents and explaining where all the jobs went?

"In total, 81 representatives, nearly one-fifth of the entire House, will participate in these jaunts, which, according to The Washington Post, include 'a round-trip flight in business class for lawmakers and their spouses (that alone is worth about $8,000), fine hotels and meals, side trips, and transportation and guides.'

"Of course, these congressional delegations are not all fun and games.

"Members of Congress will be expected to sing for their lavish dinners by honoring President Bush’s 2007 pledge to provide the Israeli military with $30 billion of tax-payer-funded weapons between 2009 and 2018.

"So far, proposed increases in military aid to Israel have been spared from the budgetary chopping block by President Obama and a compliant Congress that treats Israeli militarism as more sacrosanct than medical care for seniors.

"This despite the fact that Israel misuses the funds, in violation of the Arms Export Control Act, to commit human rights abuses against Palestinians living under its illegal 44-year military occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip."

Robbing Peter to Pay Israel | Common Dreams

Israel receives military hardware, not monetary assistance. Israelis purchase upwards of $15 billion in American products each year, making Israel one of the US's 20 largest export markets and offsetting military assistance.

About $30 billion in US foreign aid goes to the Muzzies and Arab camel riders.

"How much military aid do you provide?

"From 2009 to 2018, the United States is scheduled to give Israel--the largest recipient of U.S. assistance--$30 billion in military aid.

"Through its illegal 44-year military occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip, Israel misuses U.S. weapons in violation of U.S. law to kill and injure Palestinian civilians, destroy Palestinian civilian infrastructure, blockade the Gaza Strip, and build illegal settlements in West Bank and East Jerusalem.

"How much of this total will your community provide? Is this a good use of your tax dollars? What else could your taxes be used for in your community? Find out on the interactive map below..."

US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation : U.S. Military Aid to Israel

Fetch that.

 

[JStone]

"Through its illegal 44-year military occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip

The West Bank was Judaea and Samaria, Jewish land, for 3000 years before Jordan seized the land in 1948 and changed the name to the West Bank.

Jerusalem and Gaza have been Jewish land for 3000 years, as well, since King David conquered the Jebusites and Philistines 3 millenia ago.

Open a history book

 

[georgephillip]

Israel receives military hardware, not monetary assistance. Israelis purchase upwards of $15 billion in American products each year, making Israel one of the US's 20 largest export markets and offsetting military assistance.

About $30 billion in US foreign aid goes to the Muzzies and Arab camel riders.

"How much military aid do you provide?

"From 2009 to 2018, the United States is scheduled to give Israel--the largest recipient of U.S. assistance--$30 billion in military aid.

"Through its illegal 44-year military occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip, Israel misuses U.S. weapons in violation of U.S. law to kill and injure Palestinian civilians, destroy Palestinian civilian infrastructure, blockade the Gaza Strip, and build illegal settlements in West Bank and East Jerusalem.

"How much of this total will your community provide? Is this a good use of your tax dollars? What else could your taxes be used for in your community? Find out on the interactive map below..."

US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation*:*U.S. Military Aid to Israel

Fetch that.

Bogus link, numbnuts. Two-thirds of US foreign aid in the current FY goes to the Muzzies and Rabs.

Prove it.
Bitch.

 

[JStone]

"How much military aid do you provide?

"From 2009 to 2018, the United States is scheduled to give Israel--the largest recipient of U.S. assistance--$30 billion in military aid.

"Through its illegal 44-year military occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip, Israel misuses U.S. weapons in violation of U.S. law to kill and injure Palestinian civilians, destroy Palestinian civilian infrastructure, blockade the Gaza Strip, and build illegal settlements in West Bank and East Jerusalem.

"How much of this total will your community provide? Is this a good use of your tax dollars? What else could your taxes be used for in your community? Find out on the interactive map below..."

US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation*:*U.S. Military Aid to Israel

Fetch that.

Bogus link, numbnuts. Two-thirds of US foreign aid in the current FY goes to the Muzzies and Rabs.

Prove it.
Bitch.

You're my bitch, now. Two-thirds of US foreign aid in the current FY goes to the Muzzies and Arabs.

 

[georgephillip]

How much for Iraq and Afghanistan?

 

[JoeDread]

Might I join this conversation?