Rightwingers: what are the key issues that separate the far left from the moderate...

[Billy000]

...left?

I tried asking this question on here but no one answered so I'll make a thread on it. Tell me what are the differences between what the far left believes and what the moderate believes. Be specific. No generalities.

For example, economic views and government views. How do these two factions differ? Be specific.

 

[Avatar4321]

There is a moderate left now?

 

[Billy000]

There is a moderate left now?

There has always been one.

 

[Siete]

...left?

I tried asking this question on here but no one answered so I'll make a thread on it. Tell me what are the differences between what the far left believes and what the moderate believes. Be specific. No generalities.

For example, economic views and government views. How do these two factions differ? Be specific.

exactly like the Right, both are party specific. Until this country produces a candidate willing to represent THE PEOPLE rather than the PARTY LINE, politics, in general remain status quo .. either way it is what it is.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Moderate leftists don't present arguments for gun control based on emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty.

 

[Billy000]

Moderate leftists don't present arguments for gun control based on emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty.

Ok give me some specifics. What is moderate left view on guns?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

exactly like the Right, both are party specific. Until this country produces a candidate willing to represent THE PEOPLE rather than the PARTY LINE, politics, in general remain status quo .. either way it is what it is.

The nominating process makes that difficult. Neither JFK nor Nixon could win their party's nomination today.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Moderate leftists don't present arguments for gun control based on emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty.

Ok give me some specifics. What is moderate left view on guns?

I have yet to see one.

 

[Billy000]

This is what I am talking about. You Rightwingers know very little about the left. You generalize the left as all being radical because it is easier for you to demonize and dismiss an entire half of the political spectrum.

 

[M14 Shooter]

This is what I am talking about. You Rightwingers know very little about the left.

Really?
Can -you- provide an example of moderate-left view on gun control?
One that does not stem from emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This is what I am talking about. You Rightwingers know very little about the left. You generalize the left as all being radical because it is easier for you to demonize and dismiss an entire half of the political spectrum.

Yep, no baiting from you Billy. You're just "asking specific, relevant questions."

 

[jwoodie]

This is what I am talking about. You Rightwingers know very little about the left. You generalize the left as all being radical because it is easier for you to demonize and dismiss an entire half of the political spectrum.

Excellent example of the paradox of profound ignorance.

 

[Billy000]

This is what I am talking about. You Rightwingers know very little about the left.

Really?
Can -you- provide an example of moderate-left view on gun control?
One that does not stem from emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty?

A moderate view on gun control is the push for background checks, closing the the gun show loopholes, and, perhaps, limiting capacity.

The far left view could range from abolishing the second amendment to banning a wider variety of weapons.

 

[Billy000]

This is what I am talking about. You Rightwingers know very little about the left. You generalize the left as all being radical because it is easier for you to demonize and dismiss an entire half of the political spectrum.

Yep, no baiting from you Billy. You're just "asking specific, relevant questions."

That's right I did.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The more accurate question is aimed at hardcore lefties like the one who started this thread... what do you consider to be centered?

 

[M14 Shooter]

This is what I am talking about. You Rightwingers know very little about the left.

Really?
Can -you- provide an example of moderate-left view on gun control?
One that does not stem from emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty?

A moderate view on gun control is the push for background checks

We already have these.
Background checks are based on the fallacy that you can enact a law that will prevent people from breaking the law, and therefore are a restriction on the rights of the law abiding without any discernible benefit - they SOUND good but can do nothing to prevent crime. You either do not know this, or do know it but do not care.
Thus, the argument for them is based on emotion, ignorance or dishonesty.

You may also mean universal background checks. These are unenforceable and therefore are a restriction on the rights of the law abiding without any discernible benefit - they SOUND good but can do nothing to prevent crime. You either do not know this, or do know it but do not care.
Thus the argument for them is based on emotion, ignorance or dishonesty.

closing the the gun show loopholes

Which does not exist. You either do not know this, or do know it but do not care.
Thus, the argument for them is based on emotion, ignorance or dishonesty.

and, perhaps, limiting capacity.

As in magazine capacity?
This too is unenforceable and therefore are a restriction on the rights of the law abiding without any discernible benefit - it SOUNDS good but can do nothing to prevent crime.
Thus, the argument for them is based on emotion, ignorance or dishonesty.

As I said:
Moderate leftists don't present arguments for gun control based on emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty; I have yet to see a moderate-left argument to that effect.

 

[bendog]

I dunno about labels. But, I think Slick had much more faith in transparent markets allocating capital that does Obama. I suspect Hill likewise has less a govt interventionist view than does Warren.

However, a caveat. The far RW believes stuff like the fed govt has no legit role in helping people access healthcare. That view is unelectable. However, that does not mean that Obamacare federally vetted insurance policies or medicare for all are electable, and certainly not that they are efficient.

Thus far "the middle" talks about fixing Obamacare, but with no specifics. But, I suspect the left would compromise with the middle on the basic Krugman notion that "taking" money from those who are benefitting the most from globalization, and using the money NOT TO EQUALIZE INCOMES, but to provide access to healthcare (and secondary education).

 

[jc456]

hahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha...............this is precious.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I dunno about labels. But, I think Slick had much more faith in transparent markets allocating capital that does Obama. I suspect Hill likewise has less a govt interventionist view than does Warren.

However, a caveat. The far RW believes stuff like the fed govt has no legit role in helping people access healthcare. That view is unelectable. However, that does not mean that Obamacare federally vetted insurance policies or medicare for all are electable, and certainly not that they are efficient.

Thus far "the middle" talks about fixing Obamacare, but with no specifics. But, I suspect the left would compromise with the middle on the basic Krugman notion that "taking" money from those who are benefitting the most from globalization, and using the money NOT TO EQUALIZE INCOMES, but to provide access to healthcare (and secondary education).

That is just dressed-up socialism. Any real centered American would recognize that. What is called for and has been called for is tort reform. Change the laws that have allowed the lottery mentality to prevail and drive up health care costs in the first place.

 

[Nosmo King]

Really?
Can -you- provide an example of moderate-left view on gun control?
One that does not stem from emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty?

A moderate view on gun control is the push for background checks

We already have these.
Background checks are based on the fallacy that you can enact a law that will prevent people from breaking the law, and therefore are a restriction on the rights of the law abiding without any discernible benefit - they SOUND good but can do nothing to prevent crime. You either do not know this, or do know it but do not care.
Thus, the argument for them is based on emotion, ignorance or dishonesty.

You may also mean universal background checks. These are unenforceable and therefore are a restriction on the rights of the law abiding without any discernible benefit - they SOUND good but can do nothing to prevent crime. You either do not know this, or do know it but do not care.
Thus the argument for them is based on emotion, ignorance or dishonesty.

closing the the gun show loopholes

Which does not exist. You either do not know this, or do know it but do not care.
Thus, the argument for them is based on emotion, ignorance or dishonesty.

and, perhaps, limiting capacity.

As in magazine capacity?
This too is unenforceable and therefore are a restriction on the rights of the law abiding without any discernible benefit - it SOUNDS good but can do nothing to prevent crime.
Thus, the argument for them is based on emotion, ignorance or dishonesty.

As I said:
Moderate leftists don't present arguments for gun control based on emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty; I have yet to see a moderate-left argument to that effect.

What we have here is a one issue voter so ensconced in his position that anything reasonable MUST be dismissed with the same excuses he constantly uses.