sakinago
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Most right wingers on here will deny it, so this post is really for the few that still can think on their own,,,,or simply bypass this thread.....
Of late, right wingers will demand that any of the dozens of allegations that the Trump campaign colluded with Russian thugs, will quickly be met with "where's your proof"....which, on the surface makes some limited sense.
However, these same right wingers "forget" about the absence of proof when it comes to:
The Trumpster accusing Obama of wiretapping his sorry arse
The Trumpster stating that millions and milions of illegals voted for Clinton and that is why he lost the popular vote.
The Trumpster steadfastly claiming that he won more electoral college votes than any other republican
The Trumpster demanding that his inauguration crowd was the biggest ever....
The Trumpster having a "perfect HC plan" to replace the ACA on day one
The Trumpster's ability to defeat ISIS in a matter of hours because he is smarter than any general.
Do I really need to go on, in showing the insane hypocrisy of most right wingers DEMANDING PROOF whenever an anti-Trump allegation is posted?
Most of the things stated here are fair game. 100%.
But, be prepared to have your feet held to the same fire you wield. Which is completely fair.
I do not condone anything trump says since I did not vote for him or ever support him. I however, have still not heard the left on this site condemn the lies the leaders on their side have knowingly pushed. This is not to deflect, it is to see if the left is capable of being honest both with themselves, and everyone else.
Those being the knowing lies with the ACA;
Lower premiums for families by 2,500 a year.
Like you doctor keep your doctor.
Like your plan keep your plan.
It is not a tax.
Lower deductibles.
Add 20 million to health insurance by 2017,
Benghazi; a random protest that stemmed from an obscure video with only 1,200 hits at the time, that fog of war prevented us from taking action on for 7 hours. (That entire statement is not only false, but ridiculous after and even before knowing what we do now). And Obama saying he had no knowledge of this because he went to bed at 5 pm and didn't hear about until the news the next day.
Fast and Furious; Eric holder denied having no knowledge despite having signed an order for it, and was held in contempt of congress for.
IRS; after admitting to unfairly targeting thousands of right wing groups, tying them up in red tape, tried to claim was carried out by a few bad actors, and destroyed mass amount of evidence ahed of congressional investigation.
Where does the left stand on these known lies? Again holding your feet to the same fire you wield, this is completely fair.
Not that I agree your bullet points are actual lies, two wrongs do not make Trump's pathological lies right.
I'm not arguing 2 wrongs make a right, that actual is helping my previous post.
I hate trump, the problem I'm trying to point out is that the left helped to create trump by letting these serious offenses and lies go. If the left wants to have any credibility pointing out a narcissists long train of lies, they should start by addressing these first before. Trumps lies so far have not effected the America in such a profound way as the left has over the past 8 years. I mean, they shut off all money flow to the tea party and other similar groups through the IRS ADMITTED unfair targeting and throwing red tape at those groups. The bloody murder that would have rightfully been cried had this been BLM. And I would stand 100% with BLM if this had happened to them. Because it's something so wrong, it's more than 100 fold worst than Nixon ever did...Which was also wrong. There are very serious problems with both sides of the isle that need to be addressed. I have no problem backing the left on calling trump out, but they really need to show a shred in self awareness when doing it. Too many on both sides are stuck in their own echo chambers, and are as naive as the subjects in the two separate platos caves we have today.