If Mann et al had simply retained the data showing that proxies do not show correlatio with present temperature, would it have made a difference? My problem with AGW is that data is twisted into misdirection. If there had been more honesty and less exaggeration would we be further ahead in our understanding? I don't like being tricked. And once climate science integrity has been compromised it is hard to get it back. Or was it necessary to inflate the rhetoric just to get people to notice? Just wondering if the ends justify the means.