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Still havent seen a good argument why the government needs to fund any tv or radio station.
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Good. We shouldn't be spending taxpayer money on TV and radio programming.
If there is demand for it, the market will pay for it. If not, good riddance.
Well, there you have it. Not only would the Conservatives not nurture children concerning health care, they do not want them nurtured intellectually. Hell, if they grow up less ignorant than the Conservatives, they might turn into Liberals. Like Cheney said.
Whenever the right wing in America tell you media is liberal, I shake my head and wonder who what when where how. Corporations own 'Big Media' in America and corporations are not liberal by any definition of the word. But then there is a smidgen of good broadcasting left and that I guess is the last remaining target of the right. Media that doesn't presnt the nonsense heard on right wing radio or Fox is the target today. No need for Big Brother when you control the message all the messages. [Amazon.com: What Orwell Didn't Know: Propaganda and the New Face of American Politics (9781586485603): Andras Szanto, Orville Schell: Books]
'House GOP Budget Takes Away All Federal Funding for Corporation for Public Broadcasting' by Huma Khan
"As the House prepares for debate today on the budget, Republicans are trying to cut off public funding for NPR and the Public Broadcasting Service, which run such iconic programs as "Sesame Street" and "Morning Edition."" As Budget Debates Begin, Republicans Put NPR, PBS on Chopping Block | Common Dreams
This isn't about deficits, PBS/NPR are very small potatoes when it comes to a percentage of the US Budget, PBS/NPR are targets of the right's culture war.
I can say that both of my daughters grew up watching PBS and their great educational programing for kids. I'm not saying PBS made them what they are today, it did give them a head start. My girls did great through out their education years, now highly successful both pull down six figures, not bad for someone in their twenties. Now their children watch PBS.
PBS, what a wonderful educational resource!
Now our children can grow up watching Fox like all partiotic American kids should.
Now our children can grow up watching Fox like all partiotic American kids should.
The Networks (and Cable) would be falling all over one another trying to figure out how to get, how to get to Sesame Street if PBS went away. It's not just a great kids show, it's an industry. They sell Sesame Street clothes, children books, coloring books, games, muppets, video's, computer games and more. Hell they take the damn thing on tour with Sesame Street on Ice.
I can think of any number of Cable channels that would be fighting over NOVA, NATURE, American Experience maybe even boosting their budgets for better (more likely "more") episodes.
Same goes for the news "talent" at both NPR and PBS. Just look how fast Williams got a gig.
Who cares if Sesame Street is brought to you by Pampers and Flintstones vitamins instead of the letter H and the number 7?
Sesame Street, to read the thread you would think this was a Liberal idea created within the walls of the White House, pure bullshit.
Sesame Street is not owned by PBS or the Government.
I imagine the government that buys a 299$ hammer may be overpaying for the television program it buys or funds.
Off by a mile.
I'm saying the oft cited "killing Big Bird" meme is stupid. If any show does not need public funding to keep it going it's Sesame Street. (and a lot of other PBS/NPR programs)
"If" we cut off taxpayer support for PBS and NPR and "if" no one stepped up to pick up the slack and those institutions went the way of the dodo, many programs would survive on other channels and radio stations.
PBS, I must say this, reluctantly, my kid knows the alphabet because of Super Why, that is PBS, oh well. Too bad they did not have the same success with math.
Should the government fund this, not at all, the direct funding is just the tip of the Iceburg, a trillion dollar budget and the government gives us a couple decent shows, nice work.
Ohh a trillion dollar budget?
You are Wrong as per usual.
Methinks you should have watched more PBS.
Curious George can outthink you.
What kind of comment is that? Speaking of metaphors, at least try to make sense.
If a plant is not growing, you nuture it and you'll realize the reward what it produces.
Are you suggesting that the industrial farms of the USA that feed the world stop and nurture one individual plant if its failing?
Potatoes and government funding, I would of approached the post from this perspective;
It takes 18' of government subsidized water to grow potatoes, should we stop that funding as well?
Yep we should also stop all that govt funded hydro power.
Vegas would get pretty dark and dry.
Sesame Street, to read the thread you would think this was a Liberal idea created within the walls of the White House, pure bullshit.
Sesame Street is not owned by PBS or the Government.
I imagine the government that buys a 299$ hammer may be overpaying for the television program it buys or funds.
Off by a mile.
I'm saying the oft cited "killing Big Bird" meme is stupid. If any show does not need public funding to keep it going it's Sesame Street. (and a lot of other PBS/NPR programs)
"If" we cut off taxpayer support for PBS and NPR and "if" no one stepped up to pick up the slack and those institutions went the way of the dodo, many programs would survive on other channels and radio stations.
I am also agreeing with you, Sesame Street is not owned nor was it created by the government hence it will survive without a network that is subsidized by government.
So what do you disagree with, I state the government did not create Sesame Street, that the government overpays for hammers hence they are over paying for PBS, I can not see how you read my post and not see I just added a bit in support of your post.
Whenever I read your 'opinions', I shake my head and wonder whether you are capable of thinking for yourself and forming your own opinions or do you always just regurgitate those of other people?
You want left wing media, you pay for it. There is no reason why the rest of us should be paying for your media.
LOL, how bout that title..
Republicans Want To Gun Down Big Bird
This is what YOUR MONEY is paying for folks.
[see above.]
call your Reps and ask them to get behind this and...DEFUND NOW
PBS, NPR,
Still havent seen a good argument why the government needs to fund any tv or radio station.
I can certainly understand why the right wingers hate NPR and CPB.
If I were a propagandist working on behalf of the GOP I'd be pissed that they exist, too.
I'm sure you'd be fine with taxpayers money going to Fox News, right? Because that is exactly what taxpayers money being used to fund blatantly left wing media is. I don't 'hate' NPR or CPB.... I just don't want to pay for your media. You pay for it. That's fine. But, unless you are prepared to fund blatant right wing media, there is no reason why we should pay for yours. Get it? You want it - you fund it.
i know you are a compete idiot but in this case i agree with you
none of us should be paying for things we don't believe in
of course, i'm aware of the fact that you don't mind that i end up paying for some religious programs....making you a hypocrite.....
btw...
i've heard npr and pbs....
"blatant" leftwing media?
ha ha
you are truly deranged...
either you've never heard npr/pbs (so you are just regurgitating lies that you've been spoon fed by your conservative leaders
or....
you HAVE heard npr/pbs and you are SOOOOOOOOOOOO deranged that your perspective is insane....
Blatantly left wing media? Children's programming, Nova, American Experience, Masterpiece Theater, Antiques Roadshow, This Old House, Ken Burns documentaries. All threats to the American way of life and commerce?I can certainly understand why the right wingers hate NPR and CPB.
If I were a propagandist working on behalf of the GOP I'd be pissed that they exist, too.
I'm sure you'd be fine with taxpayers money going to Fox News, right? Because that is exactly what taxpayers money being used to fund blatantly left wing media is. I don't 'hate' NPR or CPB.... I just don't want to pay for your media. You pay for it. That's fine. But, unless you are prepared to fund blatant right wing media, there is no reason why we should pay for yours. Get it? You want it - you fund it.