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Ron Paul was winning all the debates in the polls.
Until he got booted from the debates for not being popular.
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Or until he only received one percent of the vote in the primaries
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Ron Paul was winning all the debates in the polls.
Until he got booted from the debates for not being popular.
????????????????
First we get the complaint that the campaigns are too long (which they are), then the next moment the notion that because one party or the other hasn't an anointed "front runner" 2 3/4 friggin' years out, is some kind of evidence of disarray?
Whatever!
Republicans Uncertain Who Should Run in 2012
It's not important who the Republican candidate maybe, the issue is, what will s/he promise and to whom?
The belief that any one person can fix the perniciousness which has infected our nations politics, that being money and the lust for the tappings of power, is absurd, for many (most) who long for the presidency it's not about goverence, it's all about ambition. It's not about us or our posterity, it's all about them.
True leadership is something we haven't seen, maybe in our lifetime and maybe we never will. A leader has a vision, not a hidden agenda, and the ability to communicate that vision to the people, so that even a 24 hours 'news' cycle will be unable to cloud his or her vision.
I recall an essay question from a long ago history class: Does man make history, or is the man made by history?
I don't recall how I answered it, but today, I'd have to say a leader makes history, but there are few leaders.
Note that Obama is nowhere mentioned in the article. Nor is Palin.Possible Democratic Candidates:
* Evan Bayh, Indiana, former governor (1988-1996) and currently US senator (199. His father, Birch E. Bayh II, was Indiana's Senator from 1963 to 1981 and was a candidate for the Democratic nomination for president in 1976.
* Joe Biden, Delaware, US senator (1973-) and 1988 presidential candidate.
* Wesley Clark, Arkansas, retired United States Army four-star general, former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, and 2004 presidential candidate.
* Hillary Rodham Clinton, New York, US senator (2000-) and former First Lady of the United States.
* John Edwards, North Carolina, former US senator and 2004 Democratic vice presidential nominee.
* Russ Feingold, Wisconsin, US senator (1992-).
* Al Gore, Tennessee, former U.S. vice president and the 2000 Democratic presidential nominee.
* John Kerry, Massachusetts, US senator (1984-) and 2004 Democratic presidential nominee.
* Bill Richardson, New Mexico, governor and former US ambassador to the United Nations.
* Al Sharpton, New York, Pentecostal minister and candidate for the 2004 nomination.
* Mark Warner, Virginia, governor.
Possible Republican Candidates:
* George Felix Allen, Virginia, US senator (2000-) and former governor.
* Sam Brownback, Kansas, US senator (1996-).
* Bill Frist, Tennessee, U.S. Senate (1998-2006) Majority Leader .
* Rudy Giuliani, New York, former mayor of New York City.
* Mike Huckabee, Arkansas, governor.
* John McCain, Arizona, US senator (1986-) and 2000 presidential candidate.
* George Pataki, New York, governor.
* Tim Pawlenty, Minnesota, governor.
* Mike Pence, Indiana, US congressman (2000-).
* Condoleezza Rice, currently US secretary of state.
* Mitt Romney, Massachusetts, governor.
* Rick Santorum, Pennsylvania, US senator (199.
* Tom Tancredo, Colorado, US congressman (199.
I think this belongs in the "who gives a shit?" category.
For fun I looked back to 2005 to see what people were predicting then.
2008 Presidential Election : 2005 Overview
Note that Obama is nowhere mentioned in the article. Nor is Palin.Possible Democratic Candidates:
* Evan Bayh, Indiana, former governor (1988-1996) and currently US senator (199. His father, Birch E. Bayh II, was Indiana's Senator from 1963 to 1981 and was a candidate for the Democratic nomination for president in 1976.
* Joe Biden, Delaware, US senator (1973-) and 1988 presidential candidate.
* Wesley Clark, Arkansas, retired United States Army four-star general, former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, and 2004 presidential candidate.
* Hillary Rodham Clinton, New York, US senator (2000-) and former First Lady of the United States.
* John Edwards, North Carolina, former US senator and 2004 Democratic vice presidential nominee.
* Russ Feingold, Wisconsin, US senator (1992-).
* Al Gore, Tennessee, former U.S. vice president and the 2000 Democratic presidential nominee.
* John Kerry, Massachusetts, US senator (1984-) and 2004 Democratic presidential nominee.
* Bill Richardson, New Mexico, governor and former US ambassador to the United Nations.
* Al Sharpton, New York, Pentecostal minister and candidate for the 2004 nomination.
* Mark Warner, Virginia, governor.
Possible Republican Candidates:
* George Felix Allen, Virginia, US senator (2000-) and former governor.
* Sam Brownback, Kansas, US senator (1996-).
* Bill Frist, Tennessee, U.S. Senate (1998-2006) Majority Leader .
* Rudy Giuliani, New York, former mayor of New York City.
* Mike Huckabee, Arkansas, governor.
* John McCain, Arizona, US senator (1986-) and 2000 presidential candidate.
* George Pataki, New York, governor.
* Tim Pawlenty, Minnesota, governor.
* Mike Pence, Indiana, US congressman (2000-).
* Condoleezza Rice, currently US secretary of state.
* Mitt Romney, Massachusetts, governor.
* Rick Santorum, Pennsylvania, US senator (199.
* Tom Tancredo, Colorado, US congressman (199.
Lots to see and lots that can and will happen before it is time to chose from candidates... of course it is uncertain who should run
this has to be the dumbest thread of the day
The DUMBEST part of this so called dumb thread is that the majority of "Republicans" want Sarah Palin to be the Presidential nominee. Honestly, what does that say about the cumulative IQ of your "base"?
republicans may be dumb, but even they know 16% isn't a majority.
jeebus
Ron Paul was winning all the debates in the polls.
Until he got booted from the debates for not being popular.
????????????????
Or until he only received one percent of the vote in the primaries
What , the golden under ware, yep that will fly with the right wingnuts, not
k- I really don't know, Remember Rommey gave Mass the same health care that just got trashed, where is Perot when we need him
Fuggedaboudit...its Romney's turn.
2012 its Romney/Petraeus all over Obama/Biden
Not golden, but "secret undies". My daughter rags on me endlessly about Romney. However, if we can elect a muslim socialist, a morman conservative is not tooooooo far fetched, besides, we need someone who knows how to fix the economy (not w/tax-cuts nor w/tax & spend) we need someone who can assemble a great team and get the US rolling again. If its not Romney I don't know who else has the skill sets.
Romney/Petraeus in 2012....
Not golden, but "secret undies". My daughter rags on me endlessly about Romney. However, if we can elect a muslim socialist, a morman conservative is not tooooooo far fetched, besides, we need someone who knows how to fix the economy (not w/tax-cuts nor w/tax & spend) we need someone who can assemble a great team and get the US rolling again. If its not Romney I don't know who else has the skill sets. Romney/Petraeus in 2012....
It's things like this is why I cannot take you seriously.
1.) Obama's not a Socialist.
2.) Obama's not a Muslim.
3.) Obama's not a Morman, it's Mormon.
4.) Romney is no Conservative.