Republicans--are you this intimidated by the thought of the 1st WOMAN President?

[MarcATL]

Only in the addled rightwing Republican brain is being called racist WORSE than actual racism.

Are you quoting me?

Yes or no?
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Yep.

Ah, so you're a blatant liar.

Plenty of that here, no big deal.
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What's the lie exactly?

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Post 195.

You lied.
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About..?

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[Mac1958]

Are you quoting me?

Yes or no?
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Yep.

Ah, so you're a blatant liar.

Plenty of that here, no big deal.
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What's the lie exactly?

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Post 195.

You lied.
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About..?

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Never mind, now you're just playing games.

You're part of the problem, you have no interest in seeing race relations improve.
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[MarcATL]

Yep.

Ah, so you're a blatant liar.

Plenty of that here, no big deal.
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What's the lie exactly?

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Post 195.

You lied.
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About..?

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Never mind, now you're just playing games.

You're part of the problem, you have no interest in seeing race relations improve.
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So you're going to only be voting for the candidate that will "improve racism", is that correct?

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[Mac1958]

Ah, so you're a blatant liar.

Plenty of that here, no big deal.
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What's the lie exactly?

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Post 195.

You lied.
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About..?

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Never mind, now you're just playing games.

You're part of the problem, you have no interest in seeing race relations improve.
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So you're going to only be voting for the candidate that will "improve racism", is that correct?

Either make a point or play with someone else.

All you've done so far is lie.
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[Wildman]

...what I have heard her say.

and what has she aid hat would keep you from voting for her??

 

[MarcATL]

What's the lie exactly?

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Post 195.

You lied.
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About..?

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Never mind, now you're just playing games.

You're part of the problem, you have no interest in seeing race relations improve.
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So you're going to only be voting for the candidate that will "improve racism", is that correct?

Either make a point or play with someone else.

All you've done so far is lie.
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Why don't you answer the question?

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[Mac1958]

Post 195.

You lied.
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About..?

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Never mind, now you're just playing games.

You're part of the problem, you have no interest in seeing race relations improve.
.

So you're going to only be voting for the candidate that will "improve racism", is that correct?

Either make a point or play with someone else.

All you've done so far is lie.
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Why don't you answer the question?

Tell you what: I will, and hopefully you'll go away.

And I'll make this as clear as I can so that you're less able to distort it.

No. I will, sadly, not be voting for a person who will improve race relations.

If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will be voting for the Democrat. If Hillary is the nominee, there's about a 40% chance I'll vote for her and a 60% chance I'll vote third party. Unfortunately, all a Democrat victory will do regarding race relations is encourage and enable people like you, meaning a further exacerbation of the problem. But while race relations is a very important issue to me, I have to suck it up and look at the big picture.
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[MarcATL]

About..?

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Never mind, now you're just playing games.

You're part of the problem, you have no interest in seeing race relations improve.
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So you're going to only be voting for the candidate that will "improve racism", is that correct?

Either make a point or play with someone else.

All you've done so far is lie.
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Why don't you answer the question?

Tell you what: I will, and hopefully you'll go away.

And I'll make this as clear as I can so that you're less able to distort it.

No. I will, sadly, not be voting for a person who will improve race relations.

If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will be voting for the Democrat. If Hillary is the nominee, there's about a 40% chance I'll vote for her and a 60% chance I'll vote third party. Unfortunately, all a Democrat victory will do regarding race relations is encourage and enable people like you, meaning a further exacerbation of the problem. But while race relations is a very important issue to me, I have to suck it up and look at the big picture.
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How do you propose to improve "race relations?"

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[Mac1958]

Never mind, now you're just playing games.

You're part of the problem, you have no interest in seeing race relations improve.
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So you're going to only be voting for the candidate that will "improve racism", is that correct?

Either make a point or play with someone else.

All you've done so far is lie.
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Why don't you answer the question?

Tell you what: I will, and hopefully you'll go away.

And I'll make this as clear as I can so that you're less able to distort it.

No. I will, sadly, not be voting for a person who will improve race relations.

If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will be voting for the Democrat. If Hillary is the nominee, there's about a 40% chance I'll vote for her and a 60% chance I'll vote third party. Unfortunately, all a Democrat victory will do regarding race relations is encourage and enable people like you, meaning a further exacerbation of the problem. But while race relations is a very important issue to me, I have to suck it up and look at the big picture.
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How do you propose to improve "race relations?"

20 questions. This is my last answer until you choose to make a point.

The only way it happens if leaders on both "ends" of the issue are able to get their "side" to look in the mirror and clean their own house before pointing the finger at the other. An important part of that would be a willingness to marginalize those who seek to divide for their own personal gain.

That would keep everyone busy for a quite a while.
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[MarcATL]

So you're going to only be voting for the candidate that will "improve racism", is that correct?

Either make a point or play with someone else.

All you've done so far is lie.
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Why don't you answer the question?

Tell you what: I will, and hopefully you'll go away.

And I'll make this as clear as I can so that you're less able to distort it.

No. I will, sadly, not be voting for a person who will improve race relations.

If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will be voting for the Democrat. If Hillary is the nominee, there's about a 40% chance I'll vote for her and a 60% chance I'll vote third party. Unfortunately, all a Democrat victory will do regarding race relations is encourage and enable people like you, meaning a further exacerbation of the problem. But while race relations is a very important issue to me, I have to suck it up and look at the big picture.
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How do you propose to improve "race relations?"

20 questions. This is my last answer until you choose to make a point.

The only way it happens if leaders on both "ends" of the issue are able to get their "side" to look in the mirror and clean their own house before pointing the finger at the other. An important part of that would be a willingness to marginalize those who seek to divide for their own personal gain.

That would keep everyone busy for a quite a while.
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My point is that that is not realistic.

You are of the ilk that calling out racism is WORSE than actual racism.

That, my friend, exacerbates the problem.

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[Mac1958]

Either make a point or play with someone else.

All you've done so far is lie.
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Why don't you answer the question?

Tell you what: I will, and hopefully you'll go away.

And I'll make this as clear as I can so that you're less able to distort it.

No. I will, sadly, not be voting for a person who will improve race relations.

If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will be voting for the Democrat. If Hillary is the nominee, there's about a 40% chance I'll vote for her and a 60% chance I'll vote third party. Unfortunately, all a Democrat victory will do regarding race relations is encourage and enable people like you, meaning a further exacerbation of the problem. But while race relations is a very important issue to me, I have to suck it up and look at the big picture.
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How do you propose to improve "race relations?"

20 questions. This is my last answer until you choose to make a point.

The only way it happens if leaders on both "ends" of the issue are able to get their "side" to look in the mirror and clean their own house before pointing the finger at the other. An important part of that would be a willingness to marginalize those who seek to divide for their own personal gain.

That would keep everyone busy for a quite a while.
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My point is that that is not realistic.

You are of the ilk that calling out racism is WORSE than actual racism.

That, my friend, exacerbates the problem.

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And back to your original lie.

Full circle, good closure.

Great, thanks.
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[easyt65]

Is the GOP concerned about a woman President?

Carly Fiorina is ranked 3rd in 1 poll and 4th in another...while Hillary is sinking for the Democrats. It should be noted, however, Carly Fiorina is a highly successful CEO while Hillary is a scandalous, criminal FAILED progressive, elitist Socialist believes being President is OWED to her, a woman who deserves to be in jail rather than be President.

Hillary is the best woman candidate the Democrats can find? LOL!

No, the GOP is not afraid of a woman being President. Have the Democrats found one to run yet?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

After spending a lot of time on national political boards, including this one--plus social media outlets. Some of the comments I have been reading--(including comments from women who are honest enough to say that they're not certain if they're ready for the first woman President) I remind them that if they're turning their backs on the most qualified candidate that is running (Carly Fiorina) that they may get their 1st woman President in Hillary Clinton anyway.

We see Republicans bouncing all around the 15 male candidates like they're on pogo sticks, while ignoring the most qualified candidate in this race, Carly Fiorina. 15 male candidates--(the first time in history this many have entered a Presidential race) to go after ONE woman. The debate stages resembles more of a beauty contest than a political debate Why? Because they're scared to death. Not necessarily because it's Hillary Clinton, but obviously more so--because she is a woman. They would have never entered this many into this race if the DNC popular was a male candidate.

Carly Fiorina is the most brilliant, the most articulate in this race. She can answer any question, she can slice and dice. She handles the left wing media like play dough in her hands. She has been referred to by Charles Krautghammer as "Reaganesk" who also stated she one the 1st debate. She could wipe clean Hillary Clinton in any debate. She wins conservative, independents and cross-over Democrats. IOW she could win it all. Yet yet she is put on IGNORE by all the pogo stick jumpers.

You know if the Republican Party can give us the 1st President that abolished 150 years of slavery in this country, they can sure as dam well give us the 1st woman President. Why would we want Democrats to hold that title?

Carly Fiorina is the only candidate in this race, that has been asked repeatedly if she would accept a Vice Presidential position. Here is her reply to that.

Carly Fiorina Zings Chris Wallace: Ask Me About Being VP When You Ask Everyone Else (Video) - The Gateway Pundit

Obama was the first woman President.

 

[candycorn]

After spending a lot of time on national political boards, including this one--plus social media outlets. Some of the comments I have been reading--(including comments from women who are honest enough to say that they're not certain if they're ready for the first woman President)

Easiest prediction of all time: Every disagreement or criticism of Clinton will be "because she's a woman".

Gawd.

Identity Politics is so freakin' tedious. And predictable.
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Conservatives invite such rhetoric.

Look, every one of them swears that Obama was elected only because he was black. It seems as though they will say the same thing about Clinton except instead of black being the reason, it will be only because she was female.

If liberals shoot back that the criticisms are based only on race or gender; seems to me that turnabout is fair play. It would be really great if all parties stuck to issues instead of attributing motive to the other side's supporters. But we all know better.

Yeah, I get that. But at some point, one "side" or the other is going to have to be the adult and rise above this stuff.

Well, I guess it doesn't HAVE to happen, but it sure would be nice. If you're confident that you're right on the issues (and I think the Democrats are on a majority of them), then taking the high road and just being honest will work too.
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I tried that. I detailed that Obama's wanting to get out of unwinnable wars was better than McCain's wanting to stay there indefinitely. I detailed how Obama would be a change vs more of the same from McCain. I detailed how Obama bailed out GM instead of letting it fail and Romney wanted them to go through bankruptcy meaning that if you own a GM vehicle; getting factory parts would be difficult if not impossible, few would buy GM vehicles if they didn't know the dealership that sevices it would be around in a couple of years, and how keeping GM would help everyone from the gal on the assembly line to the salesperson at a dealership. All I got was "It was a favor to unions". Meaning that the RWNJs ignored that most of those who directly benefitted; the dealership mechanics, sales persons, porters, the guy who drives the trucks from the rail yard delivering the cars, the train company that delivers the cars to the depot, the spin off industries that sell the incredibly bright lights at every dealership, the guys who sell the car lots the balloons, the helium folks, all the way down to the finance and admin folks who never been in a union hall also kept their jobs.

It all fell on deaf ears.

So just to rattle the cages of the RWNJs here, I simply resort to the "you hate him because he's black" from time to time. On the rare ocassion I get a RW member who can have an honest conversation, I enjoy driving them to school. But that hasn't happened lately.

And by the way; it's not a "chicken and the egg" argument. Obama was elected because he was the better candidate, had better ideas, and ran a superior campaign. The excuses came up after that (i.e. his election was based on race). The return fire only came after the opening shots.

Well, I'm glad to see you say "...so just to rattle the cages of the RWNJs here, I simply resort to the "you hate him because he's black" from time to time".

This is obviously your choice, but you must know what it does. While there is, no doubt, some old fashioned racism out there, there is a great deal of frustration from perfectly decent people who disagree with the guy politically and also have to deal with having their cage rattled. To them, being called a racist isn't just a poke, it has real meaning.

Surely you know that calling someone a "racist" or inferring to any degree that someone only disagrees with someone else because they're black (and that happens all the time here) doesn't just derail the conversation, which is bad enough on such a critical issue, but it exacerbates, it inflames, it really does make things worse.

And this happens with such frequency that I have to sincerely wonder whether people who regularly play that game truly have any interest in improving race relations at all. And by the way, this ironically comes from people who display such great sensitivity when it comes to words that "offend". That one is clearly a one-way street.
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As long as they are saying that he was only elected because of his skin color I feel unencumbered to say that they only disagree with him because of his skin color .

 

[GHook93]

What happens to your theory when Fiorina wins the next debate and jumps into first place?


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[RodISHI]

...what I have heard her say.

and what has she aid hat would keep you from voting for her??

Her wordy speech when she called 'Islam the greatest civilization in the world' for one. Dos she know that much about history? It makes me wonder if she would think Islam was so great if she was on the actual receiving end of how the majority of Islam treats its women? How about her statement, 'What you make of yourself is your gift to God', Muhammad had that same idea as he slaughtered and built his cult. Her own words tells she has no clue that what gifts God are (to us). If I have anything great in the way of accomplishments I could never take the credit for what God has allowed me to see or do. Building myself up would not be a gift to God when God created me, what should I say I make God what He is? If she is so unaware of such things as this and at what was going on right under her nose at Hewlett Packard do you think she is really capable of heading up a whole country? I think at this point in politics anyone not pressing the congressional races for their party and future preferences on how they want to be rule over is making a huge mistake.

 

[oreo]

Carly Fiorina isnt qualified to run a car wash. Hillary Clinton is qualifed to run a chain gang, as long as she's part of it.

So Rabbi, when you due back in Bethlehem?

Well you've got a big mouth--so why don't you tell us who you think is QUALIFIED? i hope you're not going to reference "community organizers."

Do you really want someone's first government job to be President of the United States?

If they're qualified--I sure do. Carly Fiorina has a lot of experience, and I sincerely believe she is qualified to be POTUS and a lot more qualified than many others that are sharing the 1st stage with her.

Obviously a CEO of one of America's biggest corporations with 150K employees when she was there, shows she has major executive experience. What other candidate in this race ever had 150,000 employees?

We have several nominees on the stage that are just yes, no, present votes for legislation that comes up every now and then. Many of them don't have any executive experience. And we know how important executive experience is--just by having a Jr. Senator--"community organizer" in the oval office, and he's been a disaster. Obama knew government though. Some of them can put on a good dog and pony show during a filibuster--but what else do they really do? Not much.

She has the highest security clearance of any civilian.

She knows foreign leaders personally, in fact better than any other GOP candidate on the stage, with the exception of Hillary Clinton. Her knowledge of terrorist leaders is unmatched by any other candidate, and the proof of that is just listening to her. She makes Donald Trump look like a Bozo in this area.
Trump stymped on terror questions but Carly knows the answers cold

You know if you're just stuck on hiring the same old typical politicians, like we have for the last 100 years--then don't complain when nothing gets done. They're very accustomed to making a lot of promises, campaigning on those promises, and then they go AWOL after they're elected. We've all seen this.

If you want someone that is completely HONEST and tells it like it is, without all the BS spin--then support Carly Fiorina. The best thing about Carly Fiorina is the FACT that she's never worked a day in her life in a government job.

If you want Government to run like a business--that watches spending--budgets--efficiency--then the best person to have in the oval office is a BUSINESS person, who understands not only the U.S economy but the Global economy and one that knows a whole lot about everything else too.

No other GOP candidate matches or even comes close to Carly Fiorina's experience and knowledge. None of them do.

 

[The Rabbi]

What happens to your theory when Fiorina wins the next debate and jumps into first place?


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Fiorina is a total failure at almost everything she's done.

 

[RodISHI]

The best thing about Carly Fiorina is the FACT that she's never worked a day in her life in a government job.

Are you sure about that?

 

[oreo]

What happens to your theory when Fiorina wins the next debate and jumps into first place?


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Fiorina is a total failure at almost everything she's done.

You Obamabots can get off of this thread now. Talking in Platitudes doesn't work here. You can try and promote Hillary Clinton elsewhere. Like start your own thread.