Republican tax cut will not trickle down

[The Derp]

Nothing "magical" about it. They work in a nation of 350 million because of diversity in the labor force and the ability to compete between states and localities.

A few things:

1. Why do you believe that?
2. How is the tax cut experiment in the "laboratory of democracy" not indicative of its failure nationally?
3. What does the labor force have to do with cutting taxes for corporations, pass-thrus, and the rich? Are there not corporations, pass-thrus, and the rich outside of Kansas?
4. Explain how diversity of the labor force nationally has any bearing on the performance of the economy after a tax cut?.
5. Seems to me you're ignoring Kansas because it undermines your entire fiscal argument.

Just to be clear; I don't expect you to address any of these points because you can't. Because you're a fraud.

The economic impact is spread across an entire nation and not confined to state borders, so lack of jobs, lack of skilled labor, budget shortfalls and deficits aren't a problem. The US can borrow money from China, Kansas can't. The US can raise and lower interest through the Federal Reserve, Kansas can't. The US can implement tariffs and negotiate trade deals with other countries, Kansas can't..

So you're saying people in Kansas only conduct commerce within the state borders of Kansas?!?!?!?! What a fucking joke. Everything you're saying is a joke. KS can most definitely borrow money by issuing state bonds. In fact, Kansas had to borrow close to $1B to cover for the deficits that appeared after their tax cuts. It's one of the reasons why its credit was downgraded not once, not twice, but three times

Wow. You know nothing about this subject at all.

I'm sorry that you're too stupid to understand free market economics. Apparently, you have "I LOVE BIG GOV" stamped on your ass and nothing will ever change you. I wish you'd move to Venezuela or Denmark and live happily ever after... leave US the hell alone! We don't want your Eurotrash Socialism!

You don't know the first thing about the free market. In fact, it's becoming clear that you know less than nothing. What you know are false and lies.

 

[The Derp]

Don’t believe me I really don’t care.

Well, you should care since it's central to your fucking argument. In fact, it's the only thing in support of your argument. A thing you are either unable or unwilling to prove true on a message board....why? Because you talk a big game but you're really just compensating for the fact that you're deficient.

 

[The Derp]

You mean the economy that set a record of 92 consecutive months of peacetime prosperity and created over 14 million jobs?

So what happened at the end of that economy? Oh right, it collapsed resulting in the largest taxpayer-funded bailout until Bush the Dumber's. Because -as always- it's a Conservative economy built on debt and the bill came due almost immediately in the form of the recession that hit during Bush the Elder. What do you think caused that recession? Reagan's debt-based economy.

In the case of the 80's, the S&L's that Reagan was pumping and promoting his entire term.

So you do the same thing Toddster does...you deliberately cherry pick data sets to make your argument look better than it really is.

And what else happened during Reagan? The debt tripled and the deficit doubled. Amount of outrage from you: NONE.

 

[Boss]

OK so ALL rich folks put ALL their money in overseas accounts got it

Oh yeah... Those greedy rich bastards had rather sock their money away in overseas accounts where they gain NO benefit from it, than to keep it here where it might possibly help a poor person! You see, it's FAR more important for a wealthy person to fuck over poor people than do what is in their best interest.

//sarcasm

 

[Boss]

You mean the economy that set a record of 92 consecutive months of peacetime prosperity and created over 14 million jobs?

So what happened at the end of that economy? Oh right, it collapsed because -as always- it's a Conservative economy built on debt and thebill came due almost immediately in the form of the recession that hit during Bush the Elder. What do you think caused that recession? Reagan's debt-based economy.

In the case of the 80's, the S&L's that Reagan was pumping and promoting his entire term.

It collapsed because of liberal Dummycrat policies signed into law by Bush Sr. who was incompetent when it came to Reaganomics. That's why he was a one-term president.

 

[Papageorgio]

Don’t believe me I really don’t care.

Well, you should care since it's central to your fucking argument. In fact, it's the only thing in support of your argument. A thing you are either unable or unwilling to prove true on a message board....why? Because you talk a big game but you're really just compensating for the fact that you're deficient.

You claim you don’t believe me when I said I have been for spending cuts since the 90’s, you said you don’t believe me, so that is fine by me. Not sure what you want from me, if you don’t believe me, you don’t believe.

I notice you didn’t link what I was replying to, seems amusing.

 

[Boss]

A few things:

1. Why do you believe that?
2. How is the tax cut experiment in the "laboratory of democracy" not indicative of its failure nationally?

1. Because it's FACT.

2. Already explained this and I'm not going to just keep repeating myself.

 

[Papageorgio]

Tax cuts are bad because it increases the deficit, yet increasing spending is good because deficits don’t matter. Is that the left’s position?

 

[The Derp]

Oh yeah... Those greedy rich bastards had rather sock their money away in overseas accounts where they gain NO benefit from it, than to keep it here where it might possibly help a poor person! You see, it's FAR more important for a wealthy person to fuck over poor people than do what is in their best interest.

//sarcasm

One thing they don't do is spend it, which Conservatives promised they would. In fact, your entire fiscal argument hinges on the assumption that the wealthy will increase consumption if given a tax cut. It's been proven wrong over and over and over and over the last 40 years. At some point, you're going to have to own up to it.

 

[Boss]

And what else happened during Reagan? The debt tripled and the deficit doubled.

Because we had Tip O'Neil and a Democrat Congress who refused to cut spending! Reagan was a proponent of line item veto and a balanced budget amendment.

 

[The Derp]

1. Because it's FACT.

No it's not. It's your personal assumption that, we now know, isn't informed by anything. If it was fact, you'd be able to prove it with figures and stats, verifiable and corroborated. But you can't do that either because you're too lazy, or none of that support exists.

2. Already explained this and I'm not going to just keep repeating myself.

You didn't explain it. Instead, you rattled off a bunch of vague generalities and ambiguous statements to paper over your obvious fact deficit.

Grow up.

 

[The Derp]

Tax cuts are bad because it increases the deficit, yet increasing spending is good because deficits don’t matter. Is that the left’s position?

So another attempt to construct a straw-man, which is common practice by Russian trolls.

The position on the deficit is yours. You're the one who screeches endlessly like a barnyard animal about the deficit. Then you support policies that increase the deficit you just spent the last thought whining about.

Fucking hypocrite.

Cutting spending reduces revenues and demand in the market. You're not making up that drop from anywhere. So if you pull spending out of the economy and don't make it up from other sources, what is the net effect on the economy? IT CONTRACTS.

 

[The Derp]

Because we had Tip O'Neil and a Democrat Congress who refused to cut spending! Reagan was a proponent of line item veto and a balanced budget amendment.

So then a Democratic congress that increases government spending leads to all the growth you were just championing earlier!?

So you don't have Reagan to thank for that growth and jobs, you have O'Neil and the Democrats to thank.

You're welcome.

 

[The Derp]

Because we had Tip O'Neil and a Democrat Congress who refused to cut spending! Reagan was a proponent of line item veto and a balanced budget amendment.

Only idiots and mouth-breathers support a balanced budget amendment. Here's why they're dumb ideas...they don't make allowances for emergency spending in the event of a climate catastrophe and/or war and/or economic downturn.

KS has a balanced budget amendment. That's why they had to close public schools months early. Because tax cuts caused deficits which forced cuts to spending, which forced schools to close early for the year. Now we know Conservatives love an uneducated populace, which is why they did that. Dumb people always vote Conservative.

 

[Papageorgio]

Tax cuts are bad because it increases the deficit, yet increasing spending is good because deficits don’t matter. Is that the left’s position?

So another attempt to construct a straw-man, which is common practice by Russian trolls.

The position on the deficit is yours. You're the one who screeches endlessly like a barnyard animal about the deficit. Then you support policies that increase the deficit you just spent the last thought whining about.

Fucking hypocrite.

Cutting spending reduces revenues and demand in the market. You're not making up that drop from anywhere. So if you pull spending out of the economy and don't make it up from other sources, what is the net effect on the economy? IT CONTRACTS.

All you have is personal insults. Love you lefty’s. Can’t address the logic, of the argument. So go personal.

Why not cut all taxes if as you claim deficits don’t matter? Can’t answer it can you?

 

[bendog]

The Republican tax cuts won't trickle down, CEO writes in scathing op-ed

It's not a surprise to Todd Carmichael, co-founder and CEO of La Colombe Coffee Roasters in Philadelphia.

"I can tell you what no other CEO wants to tell you," Carmichael writes in an op-ed in The Philadelphia Inquirer: "A half-trillion dollars of corporate tax giveaways proposed by the GOP aren't going to do a thing for the middle class, or create a single job. Because what every CEO knows but won't tell you is this: A tax break for their company simply means a fatter bottom line. Not jobs. Not investment." CEOs have "a powerful fiduciary duty to return all profits to shareholders — not to the employees, or the suppliers, or the community and certainly not to the unemployed or left behind," he explained. "Profit goes to shareholders (and the CEO) and not to the employees."


Just like when we cut taxes before. Cut taxes on the wealthy........and they just keep it

The bills are gifts to donors, unfortunately.

However, the initial premise of encouraging filers to use a standard deduction rather than the mortgage interest expenditure is real reform, albeit weak sauce. And, to the degree that offshored corp profits are brought back an put to work, that's good. The benefits, weak as they are, won't be seen for years. But that's true for all tax "reforms."

Why the gop House sees a need to shat upon higher education is pretty remarkable. Considering the two top shatters. 1. Was a college administrator before coming to congress (hypocrite much?)

Virginia Foxx - Wikipedia

The other went to .... West Point of all places. And then Yale. LOL And then took over dad's business.

Brett Guthrie - Wikipedia

 

[The Derp]

All you have is personal insults. Love you lefty’s. Can’t address the logic, of the argument. So go personal.

I did address the logic directly. You refused to even read it because you just invent imaginary friends and circumstances that just so happen to confirm your biases when the facts don't. Funny how that works, right? But then when asked to validate and prove your claims, you suddenly back away from them and say you don't care if I believe them. Well, obviously you do care and obviously because they're central to your shit argument. So you lie, then make an argument based on that lie, refuse to validate what you're saying, then abscond responsibility for the whole thing.

So childish. So trollish.

For example...one of you trolls might say that Obamacare caused your premiums to spike 400000%. When asked to prove that, you don't. Instead, you insist I take your word for it while simultaneously saying you don't care if I do! So then why say it in the first place? The answer is obvious; you are bullshitting and are trying to cast yourself as a victim because you can't accept personal responsibility over the life that didn't turn out the way you had hoped or your parents had promised.

Why not cut all taxes if as you claim deficits don’t matter? Can’t answer it can you?

The deficit means nothing to me. I'm interested in only good economic policy, and your shit tax cuts aren't good policy and never have been. And you know it. That's why you have to foist straw men on me about the deficit...the very deficit you were just screeching about during Obama. Unbelievable. No shame.

 

[The Derp]

Derp is the PERFECT screen name for you!

Derp...Derp..Derp... Fap...Fap...Fap!

I reported your posts for trolling.

 

[The Derp]

Derp is the PERFECT screen name for you!

Derp...Derp..Derp... Fap...Fap...Fap!

Imagine hating yourself so much that when an anonymous person completely destroys your belief system, the best you can do is copy and paste something someone else made the effort to create.

So you're not even a good troll...you're just as inept as your arguments.

You're an underachiever, not destined to do great -or even good- things.

 

[The Derp]

US dollars are only valuable in the US. They have no monetary value elsewhere. Ultimately, US dollars spent in other countries make their way back into the US when those countries purchase products and services from the US.

US dollars aren't valuable outside the US? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA? US currency is the standard reserve currency for the world, you stupid bastard.

So now you're just spouting off anything off the top oif your head, either unaware or cognizant of doing it. That technically makes you a propagandist.

It's like the more you post, the less convinced I become that you're what you claim to be.