Republican Senator wants a 7 day work week

[TooTall]

The one thing the bill does not clarify is when working 7 days in a row will you get overtime after 40 hours.

It is a FEDERAL law, and possibly a state law.

For covered, nonexempt employees, the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) requires overtime pay (PDF) to be at least one and one-half times an employee's regular rate of pay after 40 hours of work in a workweek. Some exceptions apply under special circumstances to police and firefighters and to employees of hospitals and nursing homes.

http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/workhours/overtime.htm

 

[Borillar]

Actually, he's advocating for choice, i.e., freedom.

Did you read your own link?

Wisconsin state Sen. Glenn Grothman (R) is attempting to roll back one of the state's progressive labor laws, arguing that workers should be allowed to work without a day off if they so choose.

"Right now in Wisconsin, you're not supposed to work seven days in a row, which is a little ridiculous because all sorts of people want to work seven days a week," he told The Huffington Post in an interview.


fucking retard, he's fighting for freedom to work, not force you to work

That law gets repealed it just gives the bosses the right to work their workers even harder for even more days in a row. Say you want a day off well tough shit boss has you down for 7 in a row you don't work you get fired...you see it one way I see how it would be used.Typical of republicans they are of course using the "freedom" buzz word to make it sound OK.

From your source:

He's proposing legislation that "would allow an employee to voluntarily choose to work without one day of rest in seven,"
Please take note of the underlined word.

Now don't you feel a little butthurt over not comprehending what YOUR own source stated?
Or, are you just being disingenuous willingly? Either way you're not looking too good right now.

And if the employee doesn't "voluntarily choose" what his bosses want?

 

[whitehall]

If they freaking choose. What's wrong with making a couple of extra bucks with some overtime?

 

[Meister]

That law gets repealed it just gives the bosses the right to work their workers even harder for even more days in a row. Say you want a day off well tough shit boss has you down for 7 in a row you don't work you get fired...you see it one way I see how it would be used.Typical of republicans they are of course using the "freedom" buzz word to make it sound OK.

From your source:

He's proposing legislation that "would allow an employee to voluntarily choose to work without one day of rest in seven,"
Please take note of the underlined word.

Now don't you feel a little butthurt over not comprehending what YOUR own source stated?
Or, are you just being disingenuous willingly? Either way you're not looking too good right now.

And if the employee doesn't "voluntarily choose" what his bosses want?

The boss goes to the employee that "voluntarily wants". Use some critical thinking, dude. When the boss is willing to pay overtime, there will be those that will always volunteer.

 

[The T]

I'm on the fence in regards to this issue. While I see nothing wrong with allowing workers the choice of working 7 days a week, I agree with Kondor that something is fishy.

Also it's naive to believe that companies won't require you to work for 7 days straight. I have worked for companies that have done it in the past. If you didn't like it they would fire you and replace you in a matter of hours. Many people out there are looking for work, and will do as they are told to keep their job.

WHY is government involved is more the issue.

 

[Borillar]

From your source:

He's proposing legislation that "would allow an employee to voluntarily choose to work without one day of rest in seven,"
Please take note of the underlined word.

Now don't you feel a little butthurt over not comprehending what YOUR own source stated?
Or, are you just being disingenuous willingly? Either way you're not looking too good right now.

And if the employee doesn't "voluntarily choose" what his bosses want?

The boss goes to the employee that "voluntarily wants". Use some critical thinking, dude. When the boss is willing to pay overtime, there will be those that will always volunteer.

Yeah, the employee had better "volunteer" if he wants to keep his wage slave job.

 

[DoItMyself]

Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin GOP Senator, Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek
Of course! Can't have those damn workers taking breaks to put that cash in their bosses pockets can we! Hey while we are at it we should just give the bosses a whip as well! Set up some slave shacks on site.

Did you read your own link?

Wisconsin state Sen. Glenn Grothman (R) is attempting to roll back one of the state's progressive labor laws, arguing that workers should be allowed to work without a day off if they so choose.

"Right now in Wisconsin, you're not supposed to work seven days in a row, which is a little ridiculous because all sorts of people want to work seven days a week," he told The Huffington Post in an interview.


fucking retard, he's fighting for freedom to work, not force you to work

They already have that freedom.

The football coaches at the Univ of Wisconsin, and the NFL's Green Bay Packers, work 7 days a week, usually 12-18 hours a day.

That law just says that an employee is entitled to that break if they want it.

Otherwise, the Packers and Wisconsin football coaches couldn't work the 90 hour weeks that football coaches are known to work.

 

[Kosh]

As you can see by this thread the far left hates when people have real choices.

No is no such thing as choice for the far left except for the ones they give you.

 

[Politico]

Telling people they can't work as much as they want is a violation of their rights.

What business is it of yours if someone wants to work 7 days a week?

If there is overtime available and the employer says it's OK to work as much as you want then forcing people to take days off is the same as stealing money from them

Perhaps it would be helpful to review WHY the State of Wisconsin implemented such laws in the first place.

Was it a Labor reaction to overbearing and abusive and tyrannical scheduling of workers, who had no (practical) choice other than to sit still and take it, until they got relief from the State capital?

I don't know if that was the case, but that sounds logical, based on what we all know of the history of the Labor movement in this country - back in its heyday when it actually fought for the workers - and when Capital was at their most bastardly in their treatment of their workers.

And, if my guess is correct, then, by overturning that law, are we actually opening the door to a resurrection of such overbearing and abusive and tyrannical scheduling?

Because it was necessary at the time. As someone said. That was then this is now.

 

[The Rabbi]

Selling crazy is so Right Wing.

Yeah, personal freedom, not getting between employer and employee relations. Wow, that's just crazy talk.

 

[Kondor3]

I'm on the fence in regards to this issue. While I see nothing wrong with allowing workers the choice of working 7 days a week, I agree with Kondor that something is fishy.

Also it's naive to believe that companies won't require you to work for 7 days straight. I have worked for companies that have done it in the past. If you didn't like it they would fire you and replace you in a matter of hours. Many people out there are looking for work, and will do as they are told to keep their job.

WHY is government involved is more the issue.

Why are there child labor laws?

Indeed, why are there labor laws at all?

Because, of course, in the past, there was widespread and large-scale abuse of workers by business, and organized labor stepped-in and leaned on legislatures until laws were crafted and enforced that offered some relief against those abuses.

That was then, and this is now.

We have lived 2-3 generations now without the worst of the rampant abuses that organized labor was created to fight against.

But that potential still exists, lurking just below the visible surface of present-day business/labor relations.

We have grown too trusting of business to behave itself.

Remove the protection of such labor laws (or, at least, their updated modern successors) and you set the stage for a return to the very abuses that labor fought so hard to halt, in the time of our grandfathers or great-grandfathers.

And, given that Republicans have become associated with a role as mouthpieces and front-men for Big Business in recent decades - having long-since lost its grand old position as the party of the common man - nobody trusts such an initiative when it comes from a Republican.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin GOP Senator, Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek
Of course! Can't have those damn workers taking breaks to put that cash in their bosses pockets can we! Hey while we are at it we should just give the bosses a whip as well! Set up some slave shacks on site.

Nice try--but this is what your article specifically STATES:

WASHINGTON -- Wisconsin state Sen. Glenn Grothman (R) is attempting to roll back one of the state's progressive labor laws, arguing that workers should be allowed to work without a day off if they so choose.

Now I personally do not know anyone that wants to work 7 days a week or is crazy enough to try it--but if they want to do that--why should anyone be able to stop them from doing so.

Many a small business person in this country do work seven days a week.

I've done it a couple times...it was not complicated: there was work available and I needed the money! Did 16 days in a row once...that was couple of NICE paychecks!

I don't do it anymore...my company doesn't work Sundays.

 

[The T]

Selling crazy is so Right Wing.

So is all this talk of Liberty, Freedom...just CRAZY I tells ya!

 

[The T]

I'm on the fence in regards to this issue. While I see nothing wrong with allowing workers the choice of working 7 days a week, I agree with Kondor that something is fishy.

Also it's naive to believe that companies won't require you to work for 7 days straight. I have worked for companies that have done it in the past. If you didn't like it they would fire you and replace you in a matter of hours. Many people out there are looking for work, and will do as they are told to keep their job.

WHY is government involved is more the issue.

Why are there child labor laws?

Indeed, why are there labor laws at all?

Because, of course, in the past, there was widespread and large-scale abuse of workers by business, and organized labor stepped-in and leaned on legislatures until laws were crafted and enforced that offered some relief against those abuses.

That was then, and this is now.

We have lived 2-3 generations now without the worst of the rampant abuses that organized labor was created to fight against.

But that potential still exists, lurking just below the visible surface of present-day business/labor relations.

We have grown too trusting of business to behave itself.

Remove the protection of such labor laws (or, at least, their updated modern successors) and you set the stage for a return to the very abuses that labor fought so hard to halt, in the time of our grandfathers or great-grandfathers.

And, given that Republicans have become associated with a role as mouthpieces and front-men for Big Business in recent decades - having long-since lost its grand old position as the party of the common man - nobody trusts such an initiative when it comes from a Republican.

While Democrats just as ensconced and in bed with business just somehow tend to escape, don't they? I re-assert my contention. I think we have grown up a bit past those times. Government needs to keep their noses out of it.

 

[Jarlaxle]

The one thing the bill does not clarify is when working 7 days in a row will you get overtime after 40 hours.

Doesn't need to...that is covered by Federal laws!

 

[jasonnfree]

Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin GOP Senator, Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek
Of course! Can't have those damn workers taking breaks to put that cash in their bosses pockets can we! Hey while we are at it we should just give the bosses a whip as well! Set up some slave shacks on site.

I would love to have a job that would work me for 7 days a week! Better yet, 12 hours a day and 7 days a week! Anyone got any tips? Hot job offers? I could have done that time in the military standing on my head and would have been grateful that I was only working 84 hours a week with no overtime as opposed to your typical infantryman with missed weekends and up to 30 days in the field, or perhaps, 8 months in combat (with no over time). Indeed, we were lucky if we had first formation at 6 a.m. (That would be sleeping in) and got off at 6 p.m.

And guys in prison have it tough too. Another standard American workers can meet so they can lower their standards, spend less time with their families, and maybe wages can go even a little lower to make us more competitive with the third world and be happy about it.

 

[Kondor3]

"...While Democrats just as ensconced and in bed with business just somehow tend to escape, don't they?..."

Agreed. It's just that the Pubs appear to have sold-out first, and thereby acquired the lion's share of the stereotype and stigma.

"...I re-assert my contention. I think we have grown up a bit past those times..."

While others will contend that there is too much at-stake to take a chance on relaxing those old laws against such abusive potential. Why surrender ground on the battlefield just because it's been quiet for a while?

"...Government needs to keep their noses out of it."

While others will hold that there is both truth and great danger (to the rights of laborers) in what you say.

I do believe that we end-up agreeing to disagree, at this juncture. Thanks.

 

[TooTall]

And if the employee doesn't "voluntarily choose" what his bosses want?

The boss goes to the employee that "voluntarily wants". Use some critical thinking, dude. When the boss is willing to pay overtime, there will be those that will always volunteer.

Yeah, the employee had better "volunteer" if he wants to keep his wage slave job.

I had a job building nuclear reactors many years ago where we worked 7 days a week if we wanted too. We were the highest paid Electronic Technicians in the SF bay area, which meant were probably the highest paid ET's in the US and we belonged to a Union.

Not exactly a wage slave job, and nobody was ever threatened or forced to work every day.

 

[TooTall]

I'm on the fence in regards to this issue. While I see nothing wrong with allowing workers the choice of working 7 days a week, I agree with Kondor that something is fishy.

Also it's naive to believe that companies won't require you to work for 7 days straight. I have worked for companies that have done it in the past. If you didn't like it they would fire you and replace you in a matter of hours. Many people out there are looking for work, and will do as they are told to keep their job.

WHY is government involved is more the issue.

Why are there child labor laws?

Indeed, why are there labor laws at all?

Because, of course, in the past, there was widespread and large-scale abuse of workers by business, and organized labor stepped-in and leaned on legislatures until laws were crafted and enforced that offered some relief against those abuses.

That was then, and this is now.

We have lived 2-3 generations now without the worst of the rampant abuses that organized labor was created to fight against.

But that potential still exists, lurking just below the visible surface of present-day business/labor relations.

We have grown too trusting of business to behave itself.

Remove the protection of such labor laws (or, at least, their updated modern successors) and you set the stage for a return to the very abuses that labor fought so hard to halt, in the time of our grandfathers or great-grandfathers.

And, given that Republicans have become associated with a role as mouthpieces and front-men for Big Business in recent decades - having long-since lost its grand old position as the party of the common man - nobody trusts such an initiative when it comes from a Republican.

Interesting. I guess all the business owners are Republicans and the worker bees are all Democrats. I can name some billionaire business owners that are Democrats, and they didn't get there working a 40 hour week. In fact, the biggest asshole I ever worked for was a New York Democrat!

 

[jasonnfree]

The one thing the bill does not clarify is when working 7 days in a row will you get overtime after 40 hours.

I've never worked over 40 hours a week without getting overtime pay, so I'd imagine it's a none issue................

And anyone or company that would have me work over 40 without it, had better learn how to use his tools because he'd be doing the job himself.

You do know the history of premium time? Unions, democrats, and especially FDR.