Rent Control is a fascist concept, so why do liberals support it?

[OnePercenter]

Moving expenses, deposits plus first and last is a hefty cost.

Your problem is that you view everyone with wealth as being "greedy", criminal and undeserving of their wealth. You automatically view everyone who is a tenant as some sort of a victim of society.

A tenant signs a lease, usually for 12 months, and usually the lease entails that one party provide the other with 30-days notice in the event they do NOT want to renew. Both parties know this going in.

Now, if the landlord raises the rent, he takes a risk. Maybe the tenant rejects the landlord's rent increase and moves. The landlord may be stuck with an empty apartment for a couple of months wherein had he just left the rent where it was, he would have had income.

You see, it's a two-way street but the beauty of it is that both parties were free to do as they wished and did!

You've defined greed.

 

[K9Buck]

Please supply a list of inventions that were developed totally with private funds.

LOL. No thanks. I actually do have a laugh outside of this forum.

 

[OnePercenter]

OnePercenter

I encourage you to watch some John Stossel videos. If you do, I think you'll change your philosophy on government and economics.

John Stossel

No thanks.

 

[K9Buck]

You've defined greed.

If the landlord is truly "greedy" and asks too much, the tenant moves and the landlord is fucked. The market self-corrects. No government necessary.

 

[OnePercenter]

You've proven my point. There is NO FREE MARKET. Thanks!

Like I said, you were arguing with yourself. There are varying degrees of freedom in the market. North Korea = no freedom. Hong Kong = significant freedom. Generally speaking, the more freedom = more prosperity.

Have you seen the recent "freedom" news from Hong Kong?

 

[K9Buck]

No thanks.

You can lead a horse to water...

 

[OnePercenter]

What if you can't afford to move?

Must be a longggggg string of poor life choices if you can't afford to move to a cheaper place.

Moving expenses, deposits plus first and last is a hefty cost.

I guess you should have stayed in your Mom's basement.

Bloviating. Try again.

Moving expenses, deposits plus first and last is a hefty cost.

Waaah

Welcome to reality.

 

[K9Buck]

Have you seen the recent "freedom" news from Hong Kong?

Sure. The government is clamping down on them. Freedom is a threat to the communists. You probably agree with the communists in that economic freedom and the freedom to get rich is BAD, correct?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And that's what causes more people to say "fuck this" to building rental units and instead build condos or co-ops.

Or convert their existing rental units to condos or Co-ops.

It also causes people like me who don't have a rent controlled apartment to pay more.

Rent control is simply a way of buying votes, and creating patronage jobs.

Despite rent control, there are 48.5 million rental units in the US.

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

So wanting fair market value for your property is greed?

How about you work for less than your salary?

Who determines fair market value?

Who determines fair market value?

The market, you silly twat.

No, the sellers.

Great. I'm going to sell you my IBM stock for $200 a share.
Wire me the money.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

No, stupid, rent rises due to demand in the market place. Rent rises in areas in demand and it remains the same or even drops in areas where demand is low or waning.

Who determines demand?

Customers, you moron.

If we didn't have a fixed market you'd be correct.

That's why you can't afford to move to a cheaper apartment?
Because the market is fixed?

 

[martybegan]

But why should others be able to limit how much money another can make on their own property? Should others be permitted to limit your earnings?

That's what you sign-up for when you become a residential landlord because someone fucked-over renters before you, which is the birthplace of all regulation.

And that's what causes more people to say "fuck this" to building rental units and instead build condos or co-ops.

Or convert their existing rental units to condos or Co-ops.

It also causes people like me who don't have a rent controlled apartment to pay more.

Rent control is simply a way of buying votes, and creating patronage jobs.

Despite rent control, there are 48.5 million rental units in the US.

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

So wanting fair market value for your property is greed?

How about you work for less than your salary?

Who determines fair market value?

The market.

Figures a socialist weenie like you can't figure that out.

 

[OnePercenter]

Have you seen the recent "freedom" news from Hong Kong?

Sure. The government is clamping down on them. Freedom is a threat to the communists. You probably agree with the communists in that economic freedom and the freedom to get rich is BAD, correct?

But you said and edited out "significant freedom" related to Hong Kong. Liar!

 

[martybegan]

So wanting fair market value for your property is greed?
How about you work for less than your salary?

He doesn't have a problem with greed; he has a problem with your greed.

I have a problem with all greed. Greed is bad.

So you tell your employer you will voluntarily give up part of your salary?

 

[OnePercenter]

Despite rent control, there are 48.5 million rental units in the US.

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

So wanting fair market value for your property is greed?

How about you work for less than your salary?

Who determines fair market value?

Who determines fair market value?

The market, you silly twat.

No, the sellers.

Great. I'm going to sell you my IBM stock for $200 a share.
Wire me the money.

Nah, I'll go 50.

 

[OnePercenter]

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

No, stupid, rent rises due to demand in the market place. Rent rises in areas in demand and it remains the same or even drops in areas where demand is low or waning.

Who determines demand?

Customers, you moron.

If we didn't have a fixed market you'd be correct.

That's why you can't afford to move to a cheaper apartment?
Because the market is fixed?

No, it's because moving costs money.

 

[OnePercenter]

That's what you sign-up for when you become a residential landlord because someone fucked-over renters before you, which is the birthplace of all regulation.

And that's what causes more people to say "fuck this" to building rental units and instead build condos or co-ops.

Or convert their existing rental units to condos or Co-ops.

It also causes people like me who don't have a rent controlled apartment to pay more.

Rent control is simply a way of buying votes, and creating patronage jobs.

Despite rent control, there are 48.5 million rental units in the US.

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

So wanting fair market value for your property is greed?

How about you work for less than your salary?

Who determines fair market value?

The market.

Figures a socialist weenie like you can't figure that out.

The issue is the rental market.

 

[martybegan]

And that's what causes more people to say "fuck this" to building rental units and instead build condos or co-ops.

Or convert their existing rental units to condos or Co-ops.

It also causes people like me who don't have a rent controlled apartment to pay more.

Rent control is simply a way of buying votes, and creating patronage jobs.

Despite rent control, there are 48.5 million rental units in the US.

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

So wanting fair market value for your property is greed?

How about you work for less than your salary?

Who determines fair market value?

The market.

Figures a socialist weenie like you can't figure that out.

The issue is the rental market.

The Rental Market, when not impacted by things like Rent Control, is controlled by market forces.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So wanting fair market value for your property is greed?

How about you work for less than your salary?

Who determines fair market value?

Who determines fair market value?

The market, you silly twat.

No, the sellers.

Great. I'm going to sell you my IBM stock for $200 a share.
Wire me the money.

Nah, I'll go 50.

You said the seller determines fair market value.

You lied.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, stupid, rent rises due to demand in the market place. Rent rises in areas in demand and it remains the same or even drops in areas where demand is low or waning.

Who determines demand?

Customers, you moron.

If we didn't have a fixed market you'd be correct.

That's why you can't afford to move to a cheaper apartment?
Because the market is fixed?

No, it's because moving costs money.

Well golly, you have to decide if the moving costs are worth the savings on rent.

 

[RodISHI]

America needs rent control to contain the growth of cities. Rent control causes landlords to cease maintaining apartments. Pretty soon they deteriorate to the point where they're unfit for human habitation and become the exclusive enclaves of welfare-teat sucking liberals. Shortly thereafter they (like too many rats in a cage) turn to killing each other. Ultimately the city becomes a ruin where nothing can live. Not even real rats - because there's nothing to eat. We're in an early stage but California will show us how to do it better.

I think the burden being put on property owners through taxes is doing most of the damage.