Remember when? Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

I don't agree with what Trump did. The NRA could end up costing Republicans the Senate and possibly even the White House. People who are getting Social Security checks for mental illness or who are deemed unfit to handle their own finances don't need to be buying guns. This is a perfectly reasonable precaution, and I bet Trump was talked into repealing it by the NRA and its supporters.

Wrong, the process that the social security uses to make those judgements is NOT a court and has no authority to remove rights.

The SSA is not a court, but they do require proof of mental illness before approving a mental-illness-based benefit. Plus, someone who is getting mental-illness disability payments had to apply for that benefit, or someone in their family applied for them. I say such a person should not be allowed to buy a gun. I think that's a reasonable, prudent precaution.
And you would be wrong, Social Security routinely makes that determination with out evidence or proof I am living proof.
 
Due process? Kids who get shot by crazies don't get any due process. It's not an infringement on the Second Amendment to say that if you are getting mental-illness disability payments or have been judged incapable of handling your own finances, you should not be able to buy a gun. The Constitution was never meant to be a suicide pact.
A panel does not JUDGE anything you moron.
 
Obama sang Amazing Grace Trump played golf and went to a wedding Trump is lower than shark shit

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Byrd was a changed man Scalia died a republican scum See the difference?
Byrd was for Byrd! Honor, Integrity and Character is rare in the human genome of lifetime politics. Its to degree for the most part.
 
A blast from the past.

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

The new law nullifies an Obama-backed rule that added people with mental illnesses to the national background check database.
By Ali Vitali
Feb. 28, 2017

President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

Trump signs bill revoking Obama-era gun checks for mental illness

So with all these people having mental problems pulling triggers, thank Trump for this.

"The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database."

Boy, what would we do without you around to link old articles about things that are totally impertinent to the point you're trying to make, such as this rule which would have had absolutely zero effect on the shootings that happened in El Paso and Dayton considering that neither of the shooters were "receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses" or "deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs."

That said, if such people are so inherently dangerous that they represent an imminent and foreseeable threat to commit mass-murder, then adding them to a background check database is a rather useless prophylactic. I mean, if such people are that inherently dangerous, shouldn't they be locked away somewhere for the protection of the public at large? How the hell is a background check sufficient to protect us from the clear and present danger we're facing with vile monsters like these lurking all around?
I'm still waiting on the number of that bill Trump was supposed to have signed.

Wait no more, smallbrain.

H.J.Res.40 -

All Info - H.J.Res.40 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Social Security Administration relating to Implementation of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007.

Just for yucks, here's a link to the Senate roll-call vote. Lindsey Scarlett, who is going to sponsor the new Red Flag bill, voted to repeal the regulation - which only served to keep firearms out of the hands of people so mentally-ill they were unable to hold a job or make decisions about their own affairs.

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 115th Congress - 1st Session

President Hush Money signed it on Feb. 28, 2017.
Thanks now tell me which of the two mass shooters would this have effected?
 
We all know you Trump hating scum stood up an cheered when you heard about the mass shooting in El Paso.

Pretty much everything you all know is wrong.
You certainly haven't proved it.
Come on bri,,you support a yellow bullying racist what is one to think of you??
Trump isn't any of those things. Poeple think you're a cock sucking moron.
There you go again ,,,Making up shit Seems that's your claim to fame ,,that and kissing trump ass
You're the one making things up, you sleazy lying piece of shit.
 
A blast from the past.

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

The new law nullifies an Obama-backed rule that added people with mental illnesses to the national background check database.
By Ali Vitali
Feb. 28, 2017

President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

Trump signs bill revoking Obama-era gun checks for mental illness

So with all these people having mental problems pulling triggers, thank Trump for this.

Trump may not be pulling the triggers - but he's loading the guns and minds of these domestic killers!


Not really. It's mostly lefttard angsty mellimials doing all that.
 
...Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database...
1. would either the Dayton shooter or the El Paso shooter appeared on that list?

2. would either the Dayton shooter or the El Paso shooter have had pre-existing gun possession negated by law enforcement because of The List?

...So with all these people having mental problems pulling triggers, thank Trump for this.
1. were the Dayton and El Paso shooters mentally ill - in a clinical sense, to the extent where they would have appeared on any such list?

2. was it Trump that made them so?

3. why did Trump repeal that rule? - was there a Constitutional aspect to the decision?

4. did either the Dayton or El Paso shooters purchase the weapons used in their crimes before or after Trump repealed the rule?
 
Ya have to love gun nuts rationalization.

They always want to know how a specific piece of legislation would prevent some particular event and pretend to ignore that that event has already occurred. We need to prevent FUTURE occurrences.

They also ignore legislation that WOULD have prevented the event that they are talking about.

Newsflash. We need comprehensive gun laws that BEGIN with banning assault weapons (yes that would have prevented all three of those events).

Universal background checks

stopping people with mental problems from having access to guns

Almost everyone agrees with those policies
 
Ya have to love gun nuts rationalization.

They always want to know how a specific piece of legislation would prevent some particular event and pretend to ignore that that event has already occurred. We need to prevent FUTURE occurrences.

They also ignore legislation that WOULD have prevented the event that they are talking about.

Newsflash. We need comprehensive gun laws that BEGIN with banning assault weapons (yes that would have prevented all three of those events).

Universal background checks

stopping people with mental problems from having access to guns

Almost everyone agrees with those policies

As you know, nothing you have proposed would have prevented either of these mass murders. But you don't care about that do you?
 
A blast from the past.

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

The new law nullifies an Obama-backed rule that added people with mental illnesses to the national background check database.
By Ali Vitali
Feb. 28, 2017

President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

Trump signs bill revoking Obama-era gun checks for mental illness

So with all these people having mental problems pulling triggers, thank Trump for this.

"The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database."

Boy, what would we do without you around to link old articles about things that are totally impertinent to the point you're trying to make, such as this rule which would have had absolutely zero effect on the shootings that happened in El Paso and Dayton considering that neither of the shooters were "receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses" or "deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs."

That said, if such people are so inherently dangerous that they represent an imminent and foreseeable threat to commit mass-murder, then adding them to a background check database is a rather useless prophylactic. I mean, if such people are that inherently dangerous, shouldn't they be locked away somewhere for the protection of the public at large? How the hell is a background check sufficient to protect us from the clear and present danger we're facing with vile monsters like these lurking all around?
I'm still waiting on the number of that bill Trump was supposed to have signed.

Wait no more, smallbrain.

H.J.Res.40 -

All Info - H.J.Res.40 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Social Security Administration relating to Implementation of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007.

Just for yucks, here's a link to the Senate roll-call vote. Lindsey Scarlett, who is going to sponsor the new Red Flag bill, voted to repeal the regulation - which only served to keep firearms out of the hands of people so mentally-ill they were unable to hold a job or make decisions about their own affairs.

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 115th Congress - 1st Session

President Hush Money signed it on Feb. 28, 2017.
Thanks now tell me which of the two mass shooters would this have effected?

You're asking the wrong guy, little buddy - Lindsey Scarlett Graham and President Bone Spurs are the fellas pushing for a Red Flag bill. They think predicting the future is easier than restricting magazine capacity.
 
A blast from the past.

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

The new law nullifies an Obama-backed rule that added people with mental illnesses to the national background check database.
By Ali Vitali
Feb. 28, 2017

President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

Trump signs bill revoking Obama-era gun checks for mental illness

So with all these people having mental problems pulling triggers, thank Trump for this.

"The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database."

Boy, what would we do without you around to link old articles about things that are totally impertinent to the point you're trying to make, such as this rule which would have had absolutely zero effect on the shootings that happened in El Paso and Dayton considering that neither of the shooters were "receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses" or "deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs."

That said, if such people are so inherently dangerous that they represent an imminent and foreseeable threat to commit mass-murder, then adding them to a background check database is a rather useless prophylactic. I mean, if such people are that inherently dangerous, shouldn't they be locked away somewhere for the protection of the public at large? How the hell is a background check sufficient to protect us from the clear and present danger we're facing with vile monsters like these lurking all around?
I'm still waiting on the number of that bill Trump was supposed to have signed.

Wait no more, smallbrain.

H.J.Res.40 -

All Info - H.J.Res.40 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Social Security Administration relating to Implementation of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007.

Just for yucks, here's a link to the Senate roll-call vote. Lindsey Scarlett, who is going to sponsor the new Red Flag bill, voted to repeal the regulation - which only served to keep firearms out of the hands of people so mentally-ill they were unable to hold a job or make decisions about their own affairs.

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 115th Congress - 1st Session

President Hush Money signed it on Feb. 28, 2017.
Thanks now tell me which of the two mass shooters would this have effected?

You're asking the wrong guy, little buddy - Lindsey Scarlett Graham and President Bone Spurs are the fellas pushing for a Red Flag bill. They think predicting the future is easier than restricting magazine capacity.
No I asked the guy who answered the question any further comment from you?
 
"The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database."

Boy, what would we do without you around to link old articles about things that are totally impertinent to the point you're trying to make, such as this rule which would have had absolutely zero effect on the shootings that happened in El Paso and Dayton considering that neither of the shooters were "receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses" or "deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs."

That said, if such people are so inherently dangerous that they represent an imminent and foreseeable threat to commit mass-murder, then adding them to a background check database is a rather useless prophylactic. I mean, if such people are that inherently dangerous, shouldn't they be locked away somewhere for the protection of the public at large? How the hell is a background check sufficient to protect us from the clear and present danger we're facing with vile monsters like these lurking all around?
I'm still waiting on the number of that bill Trump was supposed to have signed.

Wait no more, smallbrain.

H.J.Res.40 -

All Info - H.J.Res.40 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Social Security Administration relating to Implementation of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007.

Just for yucks, here's a link to the Senate roll-call vote. Lindsey Scarlett, who is going to sponsor the new Red Flag bill, voted to repeal the regulation - which only served to keep firearms out of the hands of people so mentally-ill they were unable to hold a job or make decisions about their own affairs.

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 115th Congress - 1st Session

President Hush Money signed it on Feb. 28, 2017.
Thanks now tell me which of the two mass shooters would this have effected?

You're asking the wrong guy, little buddy - Lindsey Scarlett Graham and President Bone Spurs are the fellas pushing for a Red Flag bill. They think predicting the future is easier than restricting magazine capacity.
No I asked the guy who answered the question any further comment from you?

Your mother wears combat boots?

I can't help you, little guy. As far as I know, neither of them were on social security disability for mental illness. That reg wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon. Neither will the Red Flag Law Lindsey Scarlett and Hush Money are proposing as a fig leaf. Banning large capacity magazines would have reduced their firepower and maybe saved some lives. Any interest in that?
 
A blast from the past.

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

The new law nullifies an Obama-backed rule that added people with mental illnesses to the national background check database.
By Ali Vitali
Feb. 28, 2017

President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

Trump signs bill revoking Obama-era gun checks for mental illness

So with all these people having mental problems pulling triggers, thank Trump for this.


Yeah, just fuck that 5th and 14th amendment due process thing. You dumb fuck, it was already permissible to add people adjudicated as mentally unfit to the NICS data base as a prohibited person. Your mulatto messiah tried to sidestep due process which is required to deny anyone their constitutional rights.

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No one is receiving social security disability or has had their legal rights taken away without due process. I can promise you that.
 
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I'm still waiting on the number of that bill Trump was supposed to have signed.

Wait no more, smallbrain.

H.J.Res.40 -

All Info - H.J.Res.40 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Social Security Administration relating to Implementation of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007.

Just for yucks, here's a link to the Senate roll-call vote. Lindsey Scarlett, who is going to sponsor the new Red Flag bill, voted to repeal the regulation - which only served to keep firearms out of the hands of people so mentally-ill they were unable to hold a job or make decisions about their own affairs.

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 115th Congress - 1st Session

President Hush Money signed it on Feb. 28, 2017.
Thanks now tell me which of the two mass shooters would this have effected?

You're asking the wrong guy, little buddy - Lindsey Scarlett Graham and President Bone Spurs are the fellas pushing for a Red Flag bill. They think predicting the future is easier than restricting magazine capacity.
No I asked the guy who answered the question any further comment from you?

Your mother wears combat boots?

I can't help you, little guy. As far as I know, neither of them were on social security disability for mental illness. That reg wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon. Neither will the Red Flag Law Lindsey Scarlett and Hush Money are proposing as a fig leaf. Banning large capacity magazines would have reduced their firepower and maybe saved some lives. Any interest in that?
So you can't tell me which of the two mass shooters that effected? I can tell you neither.

Now Flail away little fish
 
Wait no more, smallbrain.

H.J.Res.40 -

All Info - H.J.Res.40 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Social Security Administration relating to Implementation of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007.

Just for yucks, here's a link to the Senate roll-call vote. Lindsey Scarlett, who is going to sponsor the new Red Flag bill, voted to repeal the regulation - which only served to keep firearms out of the hands of people so mentally-ill they were unable to hold a job or make decisions about their own affairs.

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 115th Congress - 1st Session

President Hush Money signed it on Feb. 28, 2017.
Thanks now tell me which of the two mass shooters would this have effected?

You're asking the wrong guy, little buddy - Lindsey Scarlett Graham and President Bone Spurs are the fellas pushing for a Red Flag bill. They think predicting the future is easier than restricting magazine capacity.
No I asked the guy who answered the question any further comment from you?

Your mother wears combat boots?

I can't help you, little guy. As far as I know, neither of them were on social security disability for mental illness. That reg wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon. Neither will the Red Flag Law Lindsey Scarlett and Hush Money are proposing as a fig leaf. Banning large capacity magazines would have reduced their firepower and maybe saved some lives. Any interest in that?
So you can't tell me which of the two mass shooters that effected? I can tell you neither.

Now Flail away little fish

Jesus, you finheaded puck. I just told you that law wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon, as far as I know. Do you think repeating that is new information? I also told you the law the GOP is signalling they're going to push won't do anything either. You asked for the Number of the Bill. I gave it you. I even included the roll call vote. I answer what I can answer factually, and I sometimes offer opinions in response to hypothetical queries. I offered an opinion about high-capacity magazines. Do you have any thoughts on that?
 
Thanks now tell me which of the two mass shooters would this have effected?

You're asking the wrong guy, little buddy - Lindsey Scarlett Graham and President Bone Spurs are the fellas pushing for a Red Flag bill. They think predicting the future is easier than restricting magazine capacity.
No I asked the guy who answered the question any further comment from you?

Your mother wears combat boots?

I can't help you, little guy. As far as I know, neither of them were on social security disability for mental illness. That reg wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon. Neither will the Red Flag Law Lindsey Scarlett and Hush Money are proposing as a fig leaf. Banning large capacity magazines would have reduced their firepower and maybe saved some lives. Any interest in that?
So you can't tell me which of the two mass shooters that effected? I can tell you neither.

Now Flail away little fish

Jesus, you finheaded puck. I just told you that law wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon, as far as I know. Do you think repeating that is new information? I also told you the law the GOP is signalling they're going to push won't do anything either. You asked for the Number of the Bill. I gave it you. I even included the roll call vote. I answer what I can answer factually, and I sometimes offer opinions in response to hypothetical queries. I offered an opinion about high-capacity magazines. Do you have any thoughts on that?
I asked you a simple question you couldn't answer it
Neither of those rulings that Trump changed had no restrictions on the two shooters.
 
You're asking the wrong guy, little buddy - Lindsey Scarlett Graham and President Bone Spurs are the fellas pushing for a Red Flag bill. They think predicting the future is easier than restricting magazine capacity.
No I asked the guy who answered the question any further comment from you?

Your mother wears combat boots?

I can't help you, little guy. As far as I know, neither of them were on social security disability for mental illness. That reg wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon. Neither will the Red Flag Law Lindsey Scarlett and Hush Money are proposing as a fig leaf. Banning large capacity magazines would have reduced their firepower and maybe saved some lives. Any interest in that?
So you can't tell me which of the two mass shooters that effected? I can tell you neither.

Now Flail away little fish

Jesus, you finheaded puck. I just told you that law wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon, as far as I know. Do you think repeating that is new information? I also told you the law the GOP is signalling they're going to push won't do anything either. You asked for the Number of the Bill. I gave it you. I even included the roll call vote. I answer what I can answer factually, and I sometimes offer opinions in response to hypothetical queries. I offered an opinion about high-capacity magazines. Do you have any thoughts on that?
I asked you a simple question you couldn't answer it
Neither of those rulings that Trump changed had no restrictions on the two shooters.

If you ignore the fact I did answer it, you have a point.

You're kinda boring, peewee.
 
No I asked the guy who answered the question any further comment from you?

Your mother wears combat boots?

I can't help you, little guy. As far as I know, neither of them were on social security disability for mental illness. That reg wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon. Neither will the Red Flag Law Lindsey Scarlett and Hush Money are proposing as a fig leaf. Banning large capacity magazines would have reduced their firepower and maybe saved some lives. Any interest in that?
So you can't tell me which of the two mass shooters that effected? I can tell you neither.

Now Flail away little fish

Jesus, you finheaded puck. I just told you that law wouldn't have prevented either from buying a weapon, as far as I know. Do you think repeating that is new information? I also told you the law the GOP is signalling they're going to push won't do anything either. You asked for the Number of the Bill. I gave it you. I even included the roll call vote. I answer what I can answer factually, and I sometimes offer opinions in response to hypothetical queries. I offered an opinion about high-capacity magazines. Do you have any thoughts on that?
I asked you a simple question you couldn't answer it
Neither of those rulings that Trump changed had no restrictions on the two shooters.

If you ignore the fact I did answer it, you have a point.

You're kinda boring, peewee.
I don't read word salad so if you agree just say you agree
 
A blast from the past.

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

The new law nullifies an Obama-backed rule that added people with mental illnesses to the national background check database.
By Ali Vitali
Feb. 28, 2017

President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

Trump signs bill revoking Obama-era gun checks for mental illness

So with all these people having mental problems pulling triggers, thank Trump for this.


Yeah, just fuck that 5th and 14th amendment due process thing. You dumb fuck, it was already permissible to add people adjudicated as mentally unfit to the NICS data base as a prohibited person. Your mulatto messiah tried to sidestep due process which is required to deny anyone their constitutional rights.

.
No one is receiving social security disability or has had their legal rights taken away without due process. I can promise you that.


If maobama had his way they would have, regardless if they're a danger to themselves or others. That's the reason congress stopped it.

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