Remember when Obama warned us that our bridges and roads are crumbling?

[whitehall]

Where is congress?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Somehow there were no "shovel ready" jobs to fix those roads. It's funny how the media looked the other way on the stimulus(es) being a total sham.

Actually it's funny how you looked the other way, because I saw it happen here immediately. Already mentioned it here too.

CNN and MSNBC would've shoved that down our throats. They were in on it, toadie.

Don't know what the fuck that means but I've got a four-lane highway where I used to have an aging 2-lane. And that started immediately after the Stimulus thingie.

Then it was planned and paid for long before the stimulus.

Read the sign.

That's not a four-lane highway, yutz.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

As a whole, our infrastructure sucks

Not only roads, bridges and tunnels

But....
Water
Electric Grid
Internet
Rail

I agree and airports are archaic.

Not just the airports, but air traffic control

Airports are an easy fix and visible. Start there and the rail system.

Airports are fixed by the taxes on tickets from the flying public. Have a nice day!

Rail systems should be maintained by those who use them, not those of us who are inconvenienced by them on a daily basis.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

You mean those annoying crumbling rumble strips he had installed? [emoji1787]


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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

Well, a wall fell over.

Why do you lie?

A wall being replaced fell over due to high winds while it was being strengthened.

Dumbass, lying twat socket!

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

As a whole, our infrastructure sucks

Not only roads, bridges and tunnels

But....
Water
Electric Grid
Internet
Rail

When are you leaving?


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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

you must never drive more than 3 miles from you home

Great sentence. It will get better when you get to 4th grade!

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

I remember when Obungo took office and got billions for shovel ready infrastructure jobs. Where did the money go?

Clinton Foundation?


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[Andylusion]

As a whole, our infrastructure sucks

Not only roads, bridges and tunnels

But....
Water
Electric Grid
Internet
Rail

Are you nuts? Have you seen some of the infrastructure in other countries?

Our electric grid is fine.
Our internet is fine.
Water is fine.

As for roads and bridges... where? Where are these terrible examples? Where specifically. Because here in Ohio, it's getting better and better.

Rail? Rail just... sucks flat out. Rail just sucks. Have been to the rail in the UK? It sucks, because rail sucks. Have you been to the rail in Italy? it sucks, because rail sucks.

Cars and planes, even busses are better. You know why? Because what do you do when you get to the other side of the rail? You take a car or bus.

The only places that have infrastructure problems, seem to the be the places run by socialists.

 

[Lewdog]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

If you are asking that, then you haven't been paying attention. First off, a big infrastructure bill was part of Trump's election campaign. Secondly, not only is a lot of infrastructure in bad shape and dangerous, a lot is out-dated and is getting several times more use than it was expected to get when it was originally built, often times causing more accidents and traffic jams which in return cause delays that cost millions of dollars for shipping.

"Nearly 235,000, or some 38 percent of all U.S. bridges, need repair, replacement or major rehab, according to an analysis of federal data by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association."

Thousands of US bridges are 'structurally deficient' as pace of repair slows to lowest point in five years, industry group says

As far as the over-use take into account the Brent Spence Bridge that is part of I-75 and runs across the Ohio River between Covington, KY and Cincinnati, Oh. It was built in the 1960's, and is one of the most heavily used bridges in the country.

"Built in 1963 to carry 80,000 vehicles per day, the bridge now handles more than 170,000 vehicles each day. It is a critical link between the states and carries Interstate 75, a major American highway running from Michigan to Florida. Traffic on the bridge is so bad that some Uber drivers avoid taking it to Cincinnati from the city’s closest airport across the state line in Kentucky, even though it is the most direct route."

Without a Trump Infrastructure Plan, an Aging Ohio Bridge Is in Limbo

 

[KissMy]

As a whole, our infrastructure sucks

Not only roads, bridges and tunnels

But....
Water
Electric Grid
Internet
Rail

maybe, maybe not......however infrastructure wasn’t the national emergency Obama said it was. Would you say that’s a fair statement based on what has transpired?

You Lie!!!

'Unprecedented' number of water main breaks strikes St. Louis

Brian Russell with Missouri American Water. “All 17 of our states are dealing with freezing conditions and broken water mains. So 17 states, customers all calling in. It overwhelmed our call center.”

Crews are working 16-hour shifts, 24 hours a day.

Missouri American Water has hired more than two dozen local contractors. Because much of the country is dealing with the same problem, there aren't out-of-state crews available to come to this area.

“For us, the average winter day might see 15 breaks, maybe 20,” Brian Russell said. “A lot of main breaks is 50, and I'd say since Saturday, we've repaired over 200 so we're in unprecedented territory at this point.”

 

[Rocko]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

If you are asking that, then you haven't been paying attention. First off, a big infrastructure bill was part of Trump's election campaign. Secondly, not only is a lot of infrastructure in bad shape and dangerous, a lot is out-dated and is getting several times more use than it was expected to get when it was originally built, often times causing more accidents and traffic jams which in return cause delays that cost millions of dollars for shipping.

"Nearly 235,000, or some 38 percent of all U.S. bridges, need repair, replacement or major rehab, according to an analysis of federal data by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association."

Thousands of US bridges are 'structurally deficient' as pace of repair slows to lowest point in five years, industry group says

As far as the over-use take into account the Brent Spence Bridge that is part of I-75 and runs across the Ohio River between Covington, KY and Cincinnati, Oh. It was built in the 1960's, and is one of the most heavily used bridges in the country.

"Built in 1963 to carry 80,000 vehicles per day, the bridge now handles more than 170,000 vehicles each day. It is a critical link between the states and carries Interstate 75, a major American highway running from Michigan to Florida. Traffic on the bridge is so bad that some Uber drivers avoid taking it to Cincinnati from the city’s closest airport across the state line in Kentucky, even though it is the most direct route."

Without a Trump Infrastructure Plan, an Aging Ohio Bridge Is in Limbo

The American Road & Transportation Builders Association has one function, and that is to advocate for more government spending on infrastructure projects. But kudos to you for being the only one to supply links.

 

[Pogo]

Actually it's funny how you looked the other way, because I saw it happen here immediately. Already mentioned it here too.

CNN and MSNBC would've shoved that down our throats. They were in on it, toadie.

Don't know what the fuck that means but I've got a four-lane highway where I used to have an aging 2-lane. And that started immediately after the Stimulus thingie.

Then it was planned and paid for long before the stimulus.

Read the sign.

That's not a four-lane highway, yutz.

No, it's a sign.

 

[Lewdog]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

If you are asking that, then you haven't been paying attention. First off, a big infrastructure bill was part of Trump's election campaign. Secondly, not only is a lot of infrastructure in bad shape and dangerous, a lot is out-dated and is getting several times more use than it was expected to get when it was originally built, often times causing more accidents and traffic jams which in return cause delays that cost millions of dollars for shipping.

"Nearly 235,000, or some 38 percent of all U.S. bridges, need repair, replacement or major rehab, according to an analysis of federal data by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association."

Thousands of US bridges are 'structurally deficient' as pace of repair slows to lowest point in five years, industry group says

As far as the over-use take into account the Brent Spence Bridge that is part of I-75 and runs across the Ohio River between Covington, KY and Cincinnati, Oh. It was built in the 1960's, and is one of the most heavily used bridges in the country.

"Built in 1963 to carry 80,000 vehicles per day, the bridge now handles more than 170,000 vehicles each day. It is a critical link between the states and carries Interstate 75, a major American highway running from Michigan to Florida. Traffic on the bridge is so bad that some Uber drivers avoid taking it to Cincinnati from the city’s closest airport across the state line in Kentucky, even though it is the most direct route."

Without a Trump Infrastructure Plan, an Aging Ohio Bridge Is in Limbo

The American Road & Transportation Builders Association has one function, and that is to advocate for more government spending on infrastructure projects. But kudos to you for being the only one to supply links.

This response is why a lot of times I don't give links. If it isn't a response you want to hear you will come up with a reason to diminish the source. It isn't like it is a link to the Gatewat Pundit.

 

[Rocko]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

If you are asking that, then you haven't been paying attention. First off, a big infrastructure bill was part of Trump's election campaign. Secondly, not only is a lot of infrastructure in bad shape and dangerous, a lot is out-dated and is getting several times more use than it was expected to get when it was originally built, often times causing more accidents and traffic jams which in return cause delays that cost millions of dollars for shipping.

"Nearly 235,000, or some 38 percent of all U.S. bridges, need repair, replacement or major rehab, according to an analysis of federal data by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association."

Thousands of US bridges are 'structurally deficient' as pace of repair slows to lowest point in five years, industry group says

As far as the over-use take into account the Brent Spence Bridge that is part of I-75 and runs across the Ohio River between Covington, KY and Cincinnati, Oh. It was built in the 1960's, and is one of the most heavily used bridges in the country.

"Built in 1963 to carry 80,000 vehicles per day, the bridge now handles more than 170,000 vehicles each day. It is a critical link between the states and carries Interstate 75, a major American highway running from Michigan to Florida. Traffic on the bridge is so bad that some Uber drivers avoid taking it to Cincinnati from the city’s closest airport across the state line in Kentucky, even though it is the most direct route."

Without a Trump Infrastructure Plan, an Aging Ohio Bridge Is in Limbo

The American Road & Transportation Builders Association has one function, and that is to advocate for more government spending on infrastructure projects. But kudos to you for being the only one to supply links.

This response is why a lot of times I don't give links. If it isn't a response you want to hear you will come up with a reason to diminish the source. It isn't like it is a link to the Gatewat Pundit.

What I said wasn’t an opinion. What I said was fact. Their job is lobbying the government for more spending on infrastructure.

 

[Andylusion]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

If you are asking that, then you haven't been paying attention. First off, a big infrastructure bill was part of Trump's election campaign. Secondly, not only is a lot of infrastructure in bad shape and dangerous, a lot is out-dated and is getting several times more use than it was expected to get when it was originally built, often times causing more accidents and traffic jams which in return cause delays that cost millions of dollars for shipping.

"Nearly 235,000, or some 38 percent of all U.S. bridges, need repair, replacement or major rehab, according to an analysis of federal data by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association."

Thousands of US bridges are 'structurally deficient' as pace of repair slows to lowest point in five years, industry group says

As far as the over-use take into account the Brent Spence Bridge that is part of I-75 and runs across the Ohio River between Covington, KY and Cincinnati, Oh. It was built in the 1960's, and is one of the most heavily used bridges in the country.

"Built in 1963 to carry 80,000 vehicles per day, the bridge now handles more than 170,000 vehicles each day. It is a critical link between the states and carries Interstate 75, a major American highway running from Michigan to Florida. Traffic on the bridge is so bad that some Uber drivers avoid taking it to Cincinnati from the city’s closest airport across the state line in Kentucky, even though it is the most direct route."

Without a Trump Infrastructure Plan, an Aging Ohio Bridge Is in Limbo

Who benefits the most from infrastructure spending?
Maybe American Road & Transportation Builders Association? Conflict of interest dude.

Remember when cigarette companies commissioned research that amazingly found no health problems tied to cigarettes? Remember how people laughed at it, because it was obviously a conflict of interest?

Same thing. An industry group, shockingly producing a report they need more government funding in their industry? No way. How crazy is that?

I happen to be similar with the Brent Spence bridge, given I live in Ohio, and did deliveries down there.

Traffic is often bad, but that is normal on any bridge linking two cities.

Does the bridge need replaced? Sure. But that is not a duty of people in Wyoming, or Florida, or Colorado, to pay for an Ohio Kentucky bridge.

Further, you giving funds for it, isn't even the biggest issue. The city of Cincinnati, has yet to finalize what they want to do. They either want to keep that bridge, and build a parallel bridge to it. Or they want to tear it down, and build a larger single bridge.

The city has not decided what they want to do yet.

Regardless, this is a local issue. The local governments should be the ones funding bridges, not the Federal government. Why should people in Hawaii pay taxes, to fund a bridge in Southern Ohio?

Where in the constitution, do you see any enumerated power of the Federal Government to fund local bridges?

 

[Lewdog]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

If you are asking that, then you haven't been paying attention. First off, a big infrastructure bill was part of Trump's election campaign. Secondly, not only is a lot of infrastructure in bad shape and dangerous, a lot is out-dated and is getting several times more use than it was expected to get when it was originally built, often times causing more accidents and traffic jams which in return cause delays that cost millions of dollars for shipping.

"Nearly 235,000, or some 38 percent of all U.S. bridges, need repair, replacement or major rehab, according to an analysis of federal data by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association."

Thousands of US bridges are 'structurally deficient' as pace of repair slows to lowest point in five years, industry group says

As far as the over-use take into account the Brent Spence Bridge that is part of I-75 and runs across the Ohio River between Covington, KY and Cincinnati, Oh. It was built in the 1960's, and is one of the most heavily used bridges in the country.

"Built in 1963 to carry 80,000 vehicles per day, the bridge now handles more than 170,000 vehicles each day. It is a critical link between the states and carries Interstate 75, a major American highway running from Michigan to Florida. Traffic on the bridge is so bad that some Uber drivers avoid taking it to Cincinnati from the city’s closest airport across the state line in Kentucky, even though it is the most direct route."

Without a Trump Infrastructure Plan, an Aging Ohio Bridge Is in Limbo

Who benefits the most from infrastructure spending?
Maybe American Road & Transportation Builders Association? Conflict of interest dude.

Remember when cigarette companies commissioned research that amazingly found no health problems tied to cigarettes? Remember how people laughed at it, because it was obviously a conflict of interest?

Same thing. An industry group, shockingly producing a report they need more government funding in their industry? No way. How crazy is that?

I happen to be similar with the Brent Spence bridge, given I live in Ohio, and did deliveries down there.

Traffic is often bad, but that is normal on any bridge linking two cities.

Does the bridge need replaced? Sure. But that is not a duty of people in Wyoming, or Florida, or Colorado, to pay for an Ohio Kentucky bridge.

Further, you giving funds for it, isn't even the biggest issue. The city of Cincinnati, has yet to finalize what they want to do. They either want to keep that bridge, and build a parallel bridge to it. Or they want to tear it down, and build a larger single bridge.

The city has not decided what they want to do yet.

Regardless, this is a local issue. The local governments should be the ones funding bridges, not the Federal government. Why should people in Hawaii pay taxes, to fund a bridge in Southern Ohio?

Where in the constitution, do you see any enumerated power of the Federal Government to fund local bridges?

I grew up in Ohio and have driven over that bridge more times than I can count. The bridge was built in the 1960's and since that time not only has the population exploded, so has the number of car owners, and the amount of goods that are transported on highways rather than railways. The Brent Spence Bridge is part of a federal highway system that links Miami to Detroit. The bridge is not only used by people in Ohio and Kentucky. Your statement that people from other states should not have their tax dollars used to replace it is not just illogical, but fucking ignorant. If you want to argue against projects that shouldn't use federal tax dollars to build, you should choose your battles more wisely. How about the Alaskan bridge to no where?

You should do a little more research before using just your own personal experiences as a large part of your argument. In a REAL discussion, your personal anecdotal evidence isn't proof the bridge is not obsolete and does not meet the needs of the 21st Century almost 60 years after it was built.

 

[Rocko]

Never had a problem with the George Washington bridge, Throgs Neck Bridge, Lincoln Tunnel, Battery Park Tunnel, etc.. And I pay tolls up the ass

 

[Issa]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

Have you travelled abroad ? The US looks like a third world country compared to many.
Some red areas look like afghanistan.

 

[Rocko]

12 years later I don’t see any evidence of that. Was he lying to get a huge spending bill passed?

If you are asking that, then you haven't been paying attention. First off, a big infrastructure bill was part of Trump's election campaign. Secondly, not only is a lot of infrastructure in bad shape and dangerous, a lot is out-dated and is getting several times more use than it was expected to get when it was originally built, often times causing more accidents and traffic jams which in return cause delays that cost millions of dollars for shipping.

"Nearly 235,000, or some 38 percent of all U.S. bridges, need repair, replacement or major rehab, according to an analysis of federal data by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association."

Thousands of US bridges are 'structurally deficient' as pace of repair slows to lowest point in five years, industry group says

As far as the over-use take into account the Brent Spence Bridge that is part of I-75 and runs across the Ohio River between Covington, KY and Cincinnati, Oh. It was built in the 1960's, and is one of the most heavily used bridges in the country.

"Built in 1963 to carry 80,000 vehicles per day, the bridge now handles more than 170,000 vehicles each day. It is a critical link between the states and carries Interstate 75, a major American highway running from Michigan to Florida. Traffic on the bridge is so bad that some Uber drivers avoid taking it to Cincinnati from the city’s closest airport across the state line in Kentucky, even though it is the most direct route."

Without a Trump Infrastructure Plan, an Aging Ohio Bridge Is in Limbo

Who benefits the most from infrastructure spending?
Maybe American Road & Transportation Builders Association? Conflict of interest dude.

Remember when cigarette companies commissioned research that amazingly found no health problems tied to cigarettes? Remember how people laughed at it, because it was obviously a conflict of interest?

Same thing. An industry group, shockingly producing a report they need more government funding in their industry? No way. How crazy is that?

I happen to be similar with the Brent Spence bridge, given I live in Ohio, and did deliveries down there.

Traffic is often bad, but that is normal on any bridge linking two cities.

Does the bridge need replaced? Sure. But that is not a duty of people in Wyoming, or Florida, or Colorado, to pay for an Ohio Kentucky bridge.

Further, you giving funds for it, isn't even the biggest issue. The city of Cincinnati, has yet to finalize what they want to do. They either want to keep that bridge, and build a parallel bridge to it. Or they want to tear it down, and build a larger single bridge.

The city has not decided what they want to do yet.

Regardless, this is a local issue. The local governments should be the ones funding bridges, not the Federal government. Why should people in Hawaii pay taxes, to fund a bridge in Southern Ohio?

Where in the constitution, do you see any enumerated power of the Federal Government to fund local bridges?

I grew up in Ohio and have driven over that bridge more times than I can count. The bridge was built in the 1960's and since that time not only has the population exploded, so has the number of car owners, and the amount of goods that are transported on highways rather than railways. The Brent Spence Bridge is part of a federal highway system that links Miami to Detroit. The bridge is not only used by people in Ohio and Kentucky. Your statement that people from other states should not have their tax dollars used to replace it is not just illogical, but fucking ignorant. If you want to argue against projects that shouldn't use federal tax dollars to build, you should choose your battles more wisely. How about the Alaskan bridge to no where?

You should do a little more research before using just your own personal experiences as a large part of your argument. In a REAL discussion, your personal anecdotal evidence isn't proof the bridge is not obsolete and does not meet the needs of the 21st Century almost 60 years after it was built.

You haven’t given any unbiased proof that we have a bridge problem that needs to be addressed. Like I said, Obama was saying this shit 12 years ago, and 12 years later I don’t often hear about bridges or roads collapsing.