Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by Gunny, Dec 30, 2009.
oh, and flamers fuck off. I'll delete your posts. Fair warning.
One can be redeemed if they want to be.
It is what you make it to be.
You don't have to be a Christian to redeem yourself.
But Christians can by asking for forgiveness, but if they don't walk the walk, it really doesn't mean much, does it?
Do we not all sing redemption songs throughout our life?
I have been redeemed (and usually not deserving it) so many times I feel like coke bottle still being used from 1922.
Redemption is the one thing in life I look forward to.
Right after drink and sex.
I am a Christian. I walk what I talk. That is irrelevant. I didn't ask for a religion, nor someone's political stance on religion.
Religious or not, can redemption be attained, and who redeems?
Great thread, gunny. I am very curious what the wing nut righties believe redemption to be.
If one wants to redeem themselves, they have to make an attempt to right their wrongs and admit their faults.
Some people are unwilling or unable to admit that they have flaws, and thus, they cannot be redeemed.
So why did you put this in the religion section if you don't want to hear how a Christian redeem themselves too?
And, what political stance are you talking about?
As for your question, the person who is trying to redeem themselves is being redeemed. If they are wanting to forgive someone for something, that's up to them. But that other person has to want to redeem themselves too.
There is no possibility of Redemption. What is done cannot be undone. And it is just for that reason, that we should not be afraid! The absence of redemption, is the proof of our freedom. For, if our past could be wiped out, our self-responsibility would be likewise wiped out; and free choice means nothing, indeed there is no "self," if you do not permanently bear the consequences of your choices. There never was nor ever can be "Redemption," Thank God!
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