Red Flag laws are Illegal Pre-Crime Psychic Readings & Deny Due Process- Will They Include Gang Bangers?

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With the news at least 10 RINOs will vote in favor of an as of yet unwritten new gun bill, what they will try to frame as "common sense" rules to reduce violence, the most glaring hypocrisy may be the red flag law portion.

Say we ignore the fact it is an attempt at guessing who might be likely to commit crimes & deny legal citizens 2A rights & the due process we are afforded by law, the Dems have previously stated they do not want to include gang members in these rules.
About 80% of the gun crimes are committed by members of a gang but the leftists have previously shot down any attempt to include those listed & vetted by a gang data base in these so-called "red flag" rules.

If they really wanted to stop gun violence & they truly cared about the inner city residents most affected by these criminal thugs, these would be the most likely suspects to be disarmed.
But they refuse. Why?

This is a slippery slope that will eventually lead to total gun confiscation once they have red flagged all behavior & mass shootings continue.
Red flag laws are about control & confiscation based on subjective interpretations of intent which will target us all. Anyone can report you as being a danger & they do not need a legit reason. Once reported, you are guilty until proven innocent.
If you say something online a progbot doesn't like, it might be possible to track your IP, report you to authorities & have your house raided by heavily armed Gestapo with trigger fingers.
If you don't think that's possible, maybe even likely in some cases, you must not be paying attention.

2A: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Proggies, all I ask is you give me a plausible reason why pre-crime red flag laws are not a violation of due process & an illegal infringement on our right to keep & bear arms?
How is disarming law abiding citizens that have committed no crime justifiable & likely to reduce gun violence?
Why is going after the gang banger POS shooting up our inner city poverty plantations off limits according to Dem lawmakers?

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.


“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”


 
Gang bangers, who have criminal records, have never had the right to have guns.
But liberal mayors and liberal governors refuse to enforce gun laws in America's highest crime areas because they don't like the optics.
 
Gang bangers, who have criminal records, have never had the right to have guns.
But liberal mayors and liberal governors refuse to enforce gun laws in America's highest crime areas because they don't like the optics.
But they would be fine with the optics of confiscating guns from law abiding citizens in rural areas simply because they might say something the puppet masters do not approve.
Literally anything you say that contradicts their false narratives could trigger a raid.
 
With the news at least 10 RINOs will vote in favor of an as of yet unwritten new gun bill, what they will try to frame as "common sense" rules to reduce violence, the most glaring hypocrisy may be the red flag law portion.

Say we ignore the fact it is an attempt at guessing who might be likely to commit crimes & deny legal citizens 2A rights & the due process we are afforded by law, the Dems have previously stated they do not want to include gang members in these rules.
About 80% of the gun crimes are committed by members of a gang but the leftists have previously shot down any attempt to include those listed & vetted by a gang data base in these so-called "red flag" rules.

If they really wanted to stop gun violence & they truly cared about the inner city residents most affected by these criminal thugs, these would be the most likely suspects to be disarmed.
But they refuse. Why?

This is a slippery slope that will eventually lead to total gun confiscation once they have red flagged all behavior & mass shootings continue.
Red flag laws are about control & confiscation based on subjective interpretations of intent which will target us all. Anyone can report you as being a danger & they do not need a legit reason. Once reported, you are guilty until proven innocent.
If you say something online a progbot doesn't like, it might be possible to track your IP, report you to authorities & have your house raided by heavily armed Gestapo with trigger fingers.
If you don't think that's possible, maybe even likely in some cases, you must not be paying attention.

2A: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Proggies, all I ask is you give me a plausible reason why pre-crime red flag laws are not a violation of due process & an illegal infringement on our right to keep & bear arms?
How is disarming law abiding citizens that have committed no crime justifiable & likely to reduce gun violence?
Why is going after the gang banger POS shooting up our inner city poverty plantations off limits according to Dem lawmakers?

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.


“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”



Oh boy...more "whining is winning" nonsense.

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With the news at least 10 RINOs will vote in favor of an as of yet unwritten new gun bill, what they will try to frame as "common sense" rules to reduce violence, the most glaring hypocrisy may be the red flag law portion.

Say we ignore the fact it is an attempt at guessing who might be likely to commit crimes & deny legal citizens 2A rights & the due process we are afforded by law, the Dems have previously stated they do not want to include gang members in these rules.
About 80% of the gun crimes are committed by members of a gang but the leftists have previously shot down any attempt to include those listed & vetted by a gang data base in these so-called "red flag" rules.

If they really wanted to stop gun violence & they truly cared about the inner city residents most affected by these criminal thugs, these would be the most likely suspects to be disarmed.
But they refuse. Why?

This is a slippery slope that will eventually lead to total gun confiscation once they have red flagged all behavior & mass shootings continue.
Red flag laws are about control & confiscation based on subjective interpretations of intent which will target us all. Anyone can report you as being a danger & they do not need a legit reason. Once reported, you are guilty until proven innocent.
If you say something online a progbot doesn't like, it might be possible to track your IP, report you to authorities & have your house raided by heavily armed Gestapo with trigger fingers.
If you don't think that's possible, maybe even likely in some cases, you must not be paying attention.

2A: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Proggies, all I ask is you give me a plausible reason why pre-crime red flag laws are not a violation of due process & an illegal infringement on our right to keep & bear arms?
How is disarming law abiding citizens that have committed no crime justifiable & likely to reduce gun violence?
Why is going after the gang banger POS shooting up our inner city poverty plantations off limits according to Dem lawmakers?

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.


“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”


Nice try, but your spin won't turn. Your source is the Washington Examiner, and Politifact rates this tabloid as: HALF TRUE The statement is partially accurate but leaves out important details or takes things out of context.

Of course this is not "fake news" as are ABC, NBC, CBS or PBS your handlers have been instructed to avoid. Which of course your ignorance allows you to spread the same bullshit you read on the Internet and posted here and on - anti - social media.
 
Now, on to Red Flags: Do you want anyone who has been found in a civil proceeding a danger to themselves or others, one who has been a bully and a danger to others to own, possess or have in their custody and control a firearm?

Given my job, recruiting the public seeking a job my two deputies investigated those seeking an opportunity to serve in LE, we looked for red flags.

In doing so we found that those who would be armed are limited, based on civil judgements or criminal arrest, notwithstanding convictions. Also, three interviews, and a psychological evaluation - one written, the other oral - and a resume that included references from former jobs, school records, neighbors and if a veteran their service record.

Then if hired, one year a mentor who observed their performance on the job and the mentor provided a written evaluation once a month, or more frequently a corrective letter, into the probationary officer's file. All of which are reviewed by the LT or the Capt.
 
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