Reality gun show star arrested for raping his daughter

[Delta4Embassy]

Don't you think it would be important to know the case before you start a thread about it?

As opposed to the multitude of threads that don't even offer links to the assertions they make?

 

[mudwhistle]

Oh luds doesn't like people making fun of his thread

he's throwing a redX TANTURM...

WAAA

Even when you post something he should agree with he red x es us, just because he's an asshole.

 

[mudwhistle]

Don't you think it would be important to know the case before you start a thread about it?

As opposed to the multitude of threads that don't even offer links to the assertions they make?

Not every topic originated from the web. Or didn't you realize that. If t were to say my poop was brown this morning you would demand a sourced link to verify the validity of my assertion?

 

[rightwinger]

This thread is bogus

Not all gun owners rape their daughters....only some

And some who don't own guns rape their daughters.

That's the bogus part and I don't know why some want to make this about guns.

As far as I can tell, there is nothing about owning a gun that makes you want to rape your daughter

Many, many gun owners do not rape their daughters

 

[Disir]

I'd wait. He just split up with his ex and she made the accusations.

Seems they are accurate.

He was arrested the second time for the same case. It's not new.

On Aug. 9, Hayden was arrested and booked on molestation charges of a juvenile and crimes against nature. Hayden reportedly told TMZ that charge was sparked from an ex-girlfriend's allegations. Red Jacket Firearms released a statement denying those allegations. Hicks said the Tuesday charges stem from the Aug. 9 arrest

Sons of Guns star booked on rape charges NOLA.com

Thanks. I hadn't heard that.

Why was this jackass given access to his daughter again?

Because it was unsubstantiated more than likely. If all of this turns out to be false, this man's career is over and this is not something that he will ever be able to recover from. Further, this woman will have made it much harder for actual victims. She will have done great damage to her own daughter. Should that daughter ever encounter an actual sexual assault it may not be believed. That's why I said wait.

Just look at this case from Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania woman tries to frame estranged husband with Internet child porn faces prison - NY Daily News

A Pennsylvania woman faces up to nine years in prison after she downloaded horrific child porn in a bid to frame her estranged husband.

Meri Jane Woods saved 40 sickening shots to their family computer last August — which she then took to police to try and blame on her ex Matthew Woods.

But cops analyzed the image time stamps, and realized they had been downloaded just three days earlier.

Yet her ex had left their Clymer family home two weeks before — after she'd filed a protection-from-abuse order against him.

Good. I think that sexual assault or child molestation accusations that are made out of revenge are the most damaging to our kids, our women and most definitely our boys and men. It creates the Nancy Grace backlash and is one of the most damaging elements of our society. I also think that it is something that the public can fight back on by refraining from immediately lashing out or buying into the trial by media.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Not every topic originated from the web. Or didn't you realize that. If t were to say my poop was brown this morning you would demand a sourced link to verify the validity of my assertion?

This incident occuring isn't in dispute. It's happening. Whether the allegations are true or not is yet to be determined. And Luddly did provide a link to the news coverage confirming it's legitimacy. As opposed to many threads that don't do that. For someone claling Luddly an asshole for X'ing without cause, might wanna look at yourself for attempting to throw dispersions onto him when he did what you're supposed to. At least in the op.

 

[Disir]

I'd wait. He just split up with his ex and she made the accusations.

Did she make the allegation before or after the breakup? Coulda been why they broke up like. Fact that the gun company formally removed Mr. Hayden from having any ties to it doesn't look good.

After. The company for it's own survival had to cut ties. His show was cancelled. This is what those types of allegations do.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

After. The company for it's own survival had to cut ties. His show was cancelled. This is what those types of allegations do.

I'd agree the show being cancelled was in its' own better interests (Discovery's,) but not the company. If it's total bs fight the allegations and win and sue the beegeezers out of the ex. You don't sever ties with your founder over something that's completely fabricated. So it looks bad.

 

[mudwhistle]

Not every topic originated from the web. Or didn't you realize that. If t were to say my poop was brown this morning you would demand a sourced link to verify the validity of my assertion?

This incident occuring isn't in dispute. It's happening. Whether the allegations are true or not is yet to be determined. And Luddly did provide a link to the news coverage confirming it's legitimacy. As opposed to many threads that don't do that. For someone claling Luddly an asshole for X'ing without cause, might wanna look at yourself for attempting to throw dispersions onto him when he did what you're supposed to. At least in the op.

I didn't attempt. I succeeded. He doesn't even know the details of the case yet he used one article and tried to draw conclusions from it that turned out to be erroneous at best,, and still remains clueless after Disir posted articles setting the record straight.

 

[mudwhistle]

As far as the Xing, he's doing it indiscriminately without regard to content. He's just being a prick, and so are you.

 

[Disir]

After. The company for it's own survival had to cut ties. His show was cancelled. This is what those types of allegations do.

I'd agree the show being cancelled was in its' own better interests (Discovery's,) but not the company. If it's total bs fight the allegations and win and sue the beegeezers out of the ex. You don't sever ties with your founder over something that's completely fabricated. So it looks bad.

You do if it's for the business. His daughter Stephanie is a partner of Red Jacket Firearms.

 

[Disir]

Here's another article that talks about how the second arrest came about.
Will Hayden rape case Details of charges against Sons of Guns star - San Jose Mercury News

 

[Delta4Embassy]

You do if it's for the business. His daughter Stephanie is a partner of Red Jacket Firearms.

Only reason you throw your own father under the bus is if you think he's guilty despite what you might say in public. Otherwise you'd be loyal and stick by him regardless of business considerations. They don't strike me as the kind of people who put business before family.

 

[Disir]

You do if it's for the business. His daughter Stephanie is a partner of Red Jacket Firearms.

Only reason you throw your own father under the bus is if you think he's guilty despite what you might say in public. Otherwise you'd be loyal and stick by him regardless of business considerations. They don't strike me as the kind of people who put business before family.

I just want to throw this out there.

Separating legally may be the only way to ensure that this guy has any future income or a job should he be found innocent. I don't think that you understand that nobody is going to want to touch this guy. It's over.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/another-rightwing-gun-nut-caught.373405/

 

[Claudette]

I'd wait. He just split up with his ex and she made the accusations.

Yup. Shit like that flies when its a divorce.

If found guilty hang the guy.

If he's not guilty then his reputation has been tarnished for life.

Once your tagged as a sexual offend or pediphile that will follow you for the rest of your life.

His wife has just ruined him if her charges aren't true.