re-electing Trump means more damage to environmental policies

seen that movie 'the day after tomorrow'?
Yup. Saw it ... and 'Independence Day'... both are fiction.

As I said, if the Left's science was real, Gore would have been right, and NY would have been half under water years ago.

Been to NY lately?

:p

oh, so because OCEAN PATTERNS can't be predicted like your 3 day weather forecast, it's all fake?

i don't read the MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF SCIENTIFIC PAPERS that led to that movie, dude.

i DO see severe weather events getting MORE SEVERE and MORE FREQUENT.
 
If you are truly concerned about humans and animals alike get a line on this crap and try to get something done about it,

Toxic Algae, etc.

sorry, busy doing something about Trump at the moment :p
Nah, you are just spinning your wheels going nowhere.

actually i just dodged your pathetic attempt at misdirection dude.
No you just refused to look at an actual danger in the water supply and your claims about the deforestation were fake also.
 
now that we've arrived at the verifiable bullshit in the responses of my discussion opponents in this thread, i'm stepping out of it.

to those who care : VOTE!
 
Not electing him will kill our economy. lose over 40 000 jobs involved in fracking in Western PA and Eastern OIhio and once again make us dependent on MUSLIM OIL.....Fuck that!

that's exactly what Trump wants you to believe.
without Trump, you'll suffer.
sure. not.
When are you getting your next 10 speed bike ......got enough wood that was blown over in the last big storm to keep you warm in those winter months?

without Trump, we could be spending more on addressing climate change in modern ways (at levels that retain our current standard of living even, if we act quickly),
and a little less on the luxuries of the already way-richer-than-average.

When the lefts MIND MELDING of low 2 digit IQ ABNORMALS this is what you get....

Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

While data from NASA and other top research agencies confirms global temperatures are indeed rising, a newly compiled retrospective indicates the doomsday rhetoric is perhaps more overheated.

NYC SAYS 1.1M STUDENTS CAN ATTEND CLIMATE STRIKE PROTEST WITHOUT PUNISHMENT

The conservative-leaning Competitive Enterprise Institute has put together a lengthy compilation of apocalyptic predictions dating back decades that did not come to pass, timed as Democratic presidential candidates and climate activists refocus attention on the issue.





The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.

An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.

Then there were the fears that the world would experience a never-ending "cooling trend in the Northern Hemisphere." That claim came from an "international team of specialists" cited by The New York Times in 1978.

Video
Just years prior, Time magazine echoed other media outlets in suggesting that "another ice age" was imminent. "Telltale signs are everywhere — from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest," the magazine warned in 1974. The Guardian similarly warned in 1974 that "Space satellites show new Ice Age coming fast."

In 1970, The Boston Globe ran the headline, "Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century." The Washington Post, for its part, published a Columbia University scientist's claim that the world could be "as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age

much more Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions
 
now that we've arrived at the verifiable bullshit in the responses of my discussion opponents in this thread, i'm stepping out of it.

to those who care : VOTE!
But dude where is your so called science? I gave you some. Not good enough for you or what?
 
Not electing him will kill our economy. lose over 40 000 jobs involved in fracking in Western PA and Eastern OIhio and once again make us dependent on MUSLIM OIL.....Fuck that!

that's exactly what Trump wants you to believe.
without Trump, you'll suffer.
sure. not.
When are you getting your next 10 speed bike ......got enough wood that was blown over in the last big storm to keep you warm in those winter months?

without Trump, we could be spending more on addressing climate change in modern ways (at levels that retain our current standard of living even, if we act quickly),
and a little less on the luxuries of the already way-richer-than-average.
As I pointed out, AOC wants to add $100 Trillion in new debt to start her plan that she admits will economically collapse the US before it is accomplished...

She said the Earth will be destroyed in 11 years...

Do you think we can upgrade or rebuild every building in the US, build solar-powered high-speed rail all over the US, develop non-existent technology to use in place of fossil fuels and the internal combustion engine and reverse the damage done to the world by ourselves in less than 11 years?

Just how stupid / gullible are you?
 
i like Warren, but i'll wait to see if the Republicans can offer an alternative to Trump, and what he/she is like.
So you prefer lying fake 'woo-woo's who can't be honest with Americans and tell them she plans to jack up the middle class' taxes to pay for all of her free crap?

Figures....
 
Not electing him will kill our economy. lose over 40 000 jobs involved in fracking in Western PA and Eastern OIhio and once again make us dependent on MUSLIM OIL.....Fuck that!

that's exactly what Trump wants you to believe.
without Trump, you'll suffer.
sure. not.
When are you getting your next 10 speed bike ......got enough wood that was blown over in the last big storm to keep you warm in those winter months?

without Trump, we could be spending more on addressing climate change in modern ways (at levels that retain our current standard of living even, if we act quickly),
and a little less on the luxuries of the already way-richer-than-average.

When the lefts MIND MELDING of low 2 digit IQ ABNORMALS this is what you get....

Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

While data from NASA and other top research agencies confirms global temperatures are indeed rising, a newly compiled retrospective indicates the doomsday rhetoric is perhaps more overheated.

NYC SAYS 1.1M STUDENTS CAN ATTEND CLIMATE STRIKE PROTEST WITHOUT PUNISHMENT

The conservative-leaning Competitive Enterprise Institute has put together a lengthy compilation of apocalyptic predictions dating back decades that did not come to pass, timed as Democratic presidential candidates and climate activists refocus attention on the issue.





The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.

An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.

Then there were the fears that the world would experience a never-ending "cooling trend in the Northern Hemisphere." That claim came from an "international team of specialists" cited by The New York Times in 1978.

Video
Just years prior, Time magazine echoed other media outlets in suggesting that "another ice age" was imminent. "Telltale signs are everywhere — from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest," the magazine warned in 1974. The Guardian similarly warned in 1974 that "Space satellites show new Ice Age coming fast."

In 1970, The Boston Globe ran the headline, "Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century." The Washington Post, for its part, published a Columbia University scientist's claim that the world could be "as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age

much more Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

oh wait, lemme increase the font size for this like you did...

LONG TERM WEATHER IS CURRENTLY STILL IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT ACCURATELY. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS BASED ON HURRICANE WEATHER REPORTS

HOWEVER, basic science does prove things like how CO2 and methane trap heat, that ocean patterns which stabilize global weather depend on a salinity level of the entire world's oceans, and that Trump has done more to deny climate change than any leader in history.
 
Not electing him will kill our economy. lose over 40 000 jobs involved in fracking in Western PA and Eastern OIhio and once again make us dependent on MUSLIM OIL.....Fuck that!

that's exactly what Trump wants you to believe.
without Trump, you'll suffer.
sure. not.
When are you getting your next 10 speed bike ......got enough wood that was blown over in the last big storm to keep you warm in those winter months?

without Trump, we could be spending more on addressing climate change in modern ways (at levels that retain our current standard of living even, if we act quickly),
and a little less on the luxuries of the already way-richer-than-average.

When the lefts MIND MELDING of low 2 digit IQ ABNORMALS this is what you get....

Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

While data from NASA and other top research agencies confirms global temperatures are indeed rising, a newly compiled retrospective indicates the doomsday rhetoric is perhaps more overheated.

NYC SAYS 1.1M STUDENTS CAN ATTEND CLIMATE STRIKE PROTEST WITHOUT PUNISHMENT

The conservative-leaning Competitive Enterprise Institute has put together a lengthy compilation of apocalyptic predictions dating back decades that did not come to pass, timed as Democratic presidential candidates and climate activists refocus attention on the issue.





The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.

An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.

Then there were the fears that the world would experience a never-ending "cooling trend in the Northern Hemisphere." That claim came from an "international team of specialists" cited by The New York Times in 1978.

Video
Just years prior, Time magazine echoed other media outlets in suggesting that "another ice age" was imminent. "Telltale signs are everywhere — from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest," the magazine warned in 1974. The Guardian similarly warned in 1974 that "Space satellites show new Ice Age coming fast."

In 1970, The Boston Globe ran the headline, "Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century." The Washington Post, for its part, published a Columbia University scientist's claim that the world could be "as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age

much more Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

oh wait, lemme increase the font size for this like you did...

LONG TERM WEATHER IS CURRENTLY STILL IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT ACCURATELY. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS BASED ON HURRICANE WEATHER REPORTS

HOWEVER, basic science does prove things like how CO2 and methane trap heat, that ocean patterns which stabilize global weather depend on a salinity level of the entire world's oceans, and that Trump has done more to deny climate change than any leader in history.
Of all the countries that pollute what # is the US?
 
that's exactly what Trump wants you to believe.
without Trump, you'll suffer.
sure. not.
When are you getting your next 10 speed bike ......got enough wood that was blown over in the last big storm to keep you warm in those winter months?

without Trump, we could be spending more on addressing climate change in modern ways (at levels that retain our current standard of living even, if we act quickly),
and a little less on the luxuries of the already way-richer-than-average.

When the lefts MIND MELDING of low 2 digit IQ ABNORMALS this is what you get....

Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

While data from NASA and other top research agencies confirms global temperatures are indeed rising, a newly compiled retrospective indicates the doomsday rhetoric is perhaps more overheated.

NYC SAYS 1.1M STUDENTS CAN ATTEND CLIMATE STRIKE PROTEST WITHOUT PUNISHMENT

The conservative-leaning Competitive Enterprise Institute has put together a lengthy compilation of apocalyptic predictions dating back decades that did not come to pass, timed as Democratic presidential candidates and climate activists refocus attention on the issue.





The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.

An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.

Then there were the fears that the world would experience a never-ending "cooling trend in the Northern Hemisphere." That claim came from an "international team of specialists" cited by The New York Times in 1978.

Video
Just years prior, Time magazine echoed other media outlets in suggesting that "another ice age" was imminent. "Telltale signs are everywhere — from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest," the magazine warned in 1974. The Guardian similarly warned in 1974 that "Space satellites show new Ice Age coming fast."

In 1970, The Boston Globe ran the headline, "Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century." The Washington Post, for its part, published a Columbia University scientist's claim that the world could be "as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age

much more Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

oh wait, lemme increase the font size for this like you did...

LONG TERM WEATHER IS CURRENTLY STILL IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT ACCURATELY. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS BASED ON HURRICANE WEATHER REPORTS

HOWEVER, basic science does prove things like how CO2 and methane trap heat, that ocean patterns which stabilize global weather depend on a salinity level of the entire world's oceans, and that Trump has done more to deny climate change than any leader in history.
Of all the countries that pollute what # is the US?

apparently it's one of the worst on the planet, but i'm not going to look it up (seems hard to get accurate reliable data on that too),
because i don't care.

i care about the fact that under Trump, things are only getting worse in *this* country.
 
When are you getting your next 10 speed bike ......got enough wood that was blown over in the last big storm to keep you warm in those winter months?

without Trump, we could be spending more on addressing climate change in modern ways (at levels that retain our current standard of living even, if we act quickly),
and a little less on the luxuries of the already way-richer-than-average.

When the lefts MIND MELDING of low 2 digit IQ ABNORMALS this is what you get....

Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

While data from NASA and other top research agencies confirms global temperatures are indeed rising, a newly compiled retrospective indicates the doomsday rhetoric is perhaps more overheated.

NYC SAYS 1.1M STUDENTS CAN ATTEND CLIMATE STRIKE PROTEST WITHOUT PUNISHMENT

The conservative-leaning Competitive Enterprise Institute has put together a lengthy compilation of apocalyptic predictions dating back decades that did not come to pass, timed as Democratic presidential candidates and climate activists refocus attention on the issue.





The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.

An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.

Then there were the fears that the world would experience a never-ending "cooling trend in the Northern Hemisphere." That claim came from an "international team of specialists" cited by The New York Times in 1978.

Video
Just years prior, Time magazine echoed other media outlets in suggesting that "another ice age" was imminent. "Telltale signs are everywhere — from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest," the magazine warned in 1974. The Guardian similarly warned in 1974 that "Space satellites show new Ice Age coming fast."

In 1970, The Boston Globe ran the headline, "Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century." The Washington Post, for its part, published a Columbia University scientist's claim that the world could be "as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age

much more Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

oh wait, lemme increase the font size for this like you did...

LONG TERM WEATHER IS CURRENTLY STILL IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT ACCURATELY. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS BASED ON HURRICANE WEATHER REPORTS

HOWEVER, basic science does prove things like how CO2 and methane trap heat, that ocean patterns which stabilize global weather depend on a salinity level of the entire world's oceans, and that Trump has done more to deny climate change than any leader in history.
Of all the countries that pollute what # is the US?

apparently it's one of the worst on the planet, but i'm not going to look it up (seems hard to get accurate reliable data on that too),
because i don't care.

i care about the fact that under Trump, things are only getting worse in *this* country.
Out of the top 100 biggest polluters, America is #78..... suggest you try to get the 77 in front of us to do as good a job as we do!
 
without Trump, we could be spending more on addressing climate change in modern ways (at levels that retain our current standard of living even, if we act quickly),
and a little less on the luxuries of the already way-richer-than-average.

When the lefts MIND MELDING of low 2 digit IQ ABNORMALS this is what you get....

Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

While data from NASA and other top research agencies confirms global temperatures are indeed rising, a newly compiled retrospective indicates the doomsday rhetoric is perhaps more overheated.

NYC SAYS 1.1M STUDENTS CAN ATTEND CLIMATE STRIKE PROTEST WITHOUT PUNISHMENT

The conservative-leaning Competitive Enterprise Institute has put together a lengthy compilation of apocalyptic predictions dating back decades that did not come to pass, timed as Democratic presidential candidates and climate activists refocus attention on the issue.





The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.

An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.

Then there were the fears that the world would experience a never-ending "cooling trend in the Northern Hemisphere." That claim came from an "international team of specialists" cited by The New York Times in 1978.

Video
Just years prior, Time magazine echoed other media outlets in suggesting that "another ice age" was imminent. "Telltale signs are everywhere — from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest," the magazine warned in 1974. The Guardian similarly warned in 1974 that "Space satellites show new Ice Age coming fast."

In 1970, The Boston Globe ran the headline, "Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century." The Washington Post, for its part, published a Columbia University scientist's claim that the world could be "as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age

much more Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

oh wait, lemme increase the font size for this like you did...

LONG TERM WEATHER IS CURRENTLY STILL IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT ACCURATELY. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS BASED ON HURRICANE WEATHER REPORTS

HOWEVER, basic science does prove things like how CO2 and methane trap heat, that ocean patterns which stabilize global weather depend on a salinity level of the entire world's oceans, and that Trump has done more to deny climate change than any leader in history.
Of all the countries that pollute what # is the US?

apparently it's one of the worst on the planet, but i'm not going to look it up (seems hard to get accurate reliable data on that too),
because i don't care.

i care about the fact that under Trump, things are only getting worse in *this* country.
Out of the top 100 biggest polluters, America is #78..... suggest you try to get the 77 in front of us to do as good a job as we do!
lead. by. example.
 
When the lefts MIND MELDING of low 2 digit IQ ABNORMALS this is what you get....

Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

While data from NASA and other top research agencies confirms global temperatures are indeed rising, a newly compiled retrospective indicates the doomsday rhetoric is perhaps more overheated.

NYC SAYS 1.1M STUDENTS CAN ATTEND CLIMATE STRIKE PROTEST WITHOUT PUNISHMENT

The conservative-leaning Competitive Enterprise Institute has put together a lengthy compilation of apocalyptic predictions dating back decades that did not come to pass, timed as Democratic presidential candidates and climate activists refocus attention on the issue.





The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.

An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.

Then there were the fears that the world would experience a never-ending "cooling trend in the Northern Hemisphere." That claim came from an "international team of specialists" cited by The New York Times in 1978.

Video
Just years prior, Time magazine echoed other media outlets in suggesting that "another ice age" was imminent. "Telltale signs are everywhere — from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest," the magazine warned in 1974. The Guardian similarly warned in 1974 that "Space satellites show new Ice Age coming fast."

In 1970, The Boston Globe ran the headline, "Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century." The Washington Post, for its part, published a Columbia University scientist's claim that the world could be "as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age

much more Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

oh wait, lemme increase the font size for this like you did...

LONG TERM WEATHER IS CURRENTLY STILL IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT ACCURATELY. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS BASED ON HURRICANE WEATHER REPORTS

HOWEVER, basic science does prove things like how CO2 and methane trap heat, that ocean patterns which stabilize global weather depend on a salinity level of the entire world's oceans, and that Trump has done more to deny climate change than any leader in history.
Of all the countries that pollute what # is the US?

apparently it's one of the worst on the planet, but i'm not going to look it up (seems hard to get accurate reliable data on that too),
because i don't care.

i care about the fact that under Trump, things are only getting worse in *this* country.
Out of the top 100 biggest polluters, America is #78..... suggest you try to get the 77 in front of us to do as good a job as we do!
lead. by. example.
Time for 77 others to step up!
 
Climate change lol.

So you're denying that huge stack of hard obtained scientific evidence about climate change?

You mean evidence about climate change collected by the same people that cannot predict the weather 24 hours out with any reliability! They can predict to a tenth of a degree what the temperature will be in 50 years but cannot tell me if I need a jacket to walk my dogs when I get home from work at night! Those people?
 
Climate change lol.

So you're denying that huge stack of hard obtained scientific evidence about climate change?

You mean evidence about climate change collected by the same people that cannot predict the weather 24 hours out with any reliability! They can predict to a tenth of a degree what the temperature will be in 50 years but cannot tell me if I need a jacket to walk my dogs when I get home from work at night! Those people?

no, actually.

see, there's your weather forecasters, burdened by lack of data and even processing power to produce weather forecasts,

and then there's the basic science guys, whose work has been slashed and ignored under Trump.

those basic science guys have real points, they just can't put any forecast on it.

however, there's the weather REPORTS of course, and they DO indicate that global weather is getting worse and worse due to human activity.
 

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