Rats and mice.

[Ray9]

One could reasonably conclude that there are too many “educated” people in our society and they are not only destroying our society but the world as well. After the Sputnik scare in 1957 the government got involved in education and it’s been downhill ever since with focus of educational institutions shifting from producing better citizens to inflating taxation to provide the “good life” for educators at the extracted expense of the working class.



To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.


In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.


Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.


Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. One wonders if the world would be a better place if we scrubbed some of the educated people out of positions of leadership and replaced them with average citizens who could actually get something useful done.


Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. The educated political establishment is trying to force-feed universal healthcare onto the population. They also want to legalize illegal drugs to anesthetize and stupefy the masses.


Be thankful our president is not eminently educated. He is the only thing stopping the educated rats from turning us all into mice.

 

[beagle9]

If we had a government we could trust, the sky would be the limit for this nation. The problem is that we can't get a government we can trust, and that's because we are dealing with parrallel universes between the civilian world and the government world. The government world has been hostile to planet civilian world for decades. When ever we want to bridge the gap, we get pushed back into our place or world in which we are given to occupy. We should be providing the government a seat at our table, and not the opposite. The very fact that government exist is because we give it the power to exist. Now how that changed is flat outright amazing. The government got out of hand through the influx of lobbyist who bribed it to exploit we the people instead of it representing us against such exploitation. Then the government got caught up in this morphing into a so called protectionist of the so called weak, the so called poor, the weird, and the eternal whiners coupled with every group or individual having some sort of episode or quark in their life. Our government was expanded into areas it should have never went or until better checks and balances were placed upon it before ever going there. We have a federal government that had gotten way out of control, and especially when it started listening to everything it should have never involved itself in. Hopefully it will change, but we shall see.

 

[Ray9]

Thank you for helping me to become a better writer. The lack of responses encouraged me to rewrite the piece. Here is the rewrite:


Our leadership is fond of using science and research to justify taxation that imposes things like climate initiatives and universal health insurance onto the masses. Science is certainly important but self-serving science is not only dangerous it could lead us to the end of democracy.



To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.


In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.


Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.


Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. Calhoun described the rodent descent in cultural depravity as “behavioral sink” which vividly mirrors the emergence of the American underclass, the practice of human sacrifice in the form of abortion on demand, the rise of violent crime , the spreading opioid crisis and the ascent of a political establishment that operates outside the law.


Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. American education and mass media have made a subtle shift from information to indoctrination using language manipulation to confuse the people and shepherd them in a desired direction-the same direction Calhoun’s rodents went.


Calhoun’s science has been buried under the sands of political correctness for decades. We need to dig it up and take a long, hard look at it.

 

[beagle9]

Thank you for helping me to become a better writer. The lack of responses encouraged me to rewrite the piece. Here is the rewrite:


Our leadership is fond of using science and research to justify taxation that imposes things like climate initiatives and universal health insurance onto the masses. Science is certainly important but self-serving science is not only dangerous it could lead us to the end of democracy.



To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.


In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.


Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.


Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. Calhoun described the rodent descent in cultural depravity as “behavioral sink” which vividly mirrors the emergence of the American underclass, the practice of human sacrifice in the form of abortion on demand, the rise of violent crime , the spreading opioid crisis and the ascent of a political establishment that operates outside the law.


Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. American education and mass media have made a subtle shift from information to indoctrination using language manipulation to confuse the people and shepherd them in a desired direction-the same direction Calhoun’s rodents went.


Calhoun’s science has been buried under the sands of political correctness for decades. We need to dig it up and take a long, hard look at it.

. Yes, and the only difference is that we are human, and being human we should be wiser and more quicker to avoid the results of the study. Are we smarter or are we smart but just stopped by guilt if we try to apply the formula's in which head off the coming disaster ?? Who has held this nation in chains and bondage now, and will we be able to break the chains that bind us ?? Being able to recognize the problem is highly important, and then fixing the problem is a must before we go the way of the study. We aren't rats or mice, but we can be trapped just like they are when we allow it to.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL Well now, that is the best defensive of being a bone ignorant "Conservative" that I have ever heard. So you are afraid of becoming a homosexual mouse if you work at actually getting educated. LOL Gotta really love that kind of reasoning. LOL

 

[Ray9]

Science is science. It consists of experimentation that is repeatable and can be clearly demonstrated to be so using the rigor of good science to ensure it is free of contamination that leads to a false hypothesis. Calhoun's experiments were never attacked as being unscientific they were simply ignored because they did not the support the narrative that government is necessary and even crucial for human thriving. His experiments suggested the opposite. When the government provides all the basics for living organisms those organisms adopt a rudderless strategy leading to their own demise. They fail to thrive or even survive. Brain size is irrelevant.

John B. Calhoun - Wikipedia

 

[jasonnfree]

One could reasonably conclude that there are too many “educated” people in our society and they are not only destroying our society but the world as well. After the Sputnik scare in 1957 the government got involved in education and it’s been downhill ever since with focus of educational institutions shifting from producing better citizens to inflating taxation to provide the “good life” for educators at the extracted expense of the working class.



To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.


In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.


Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.


Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. One wonders if the world would be a better place if we scrubbed some of the educated people out of positions of leadership and replaced them with average citizens who could actually get something useful done.


Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. The educated political establishment is trying to force-feed universal healthcare onto the population. They also want to legalize illegal drugs to anesthetize and stupefy the masses.


Be thankful our president is not eminently educated. He is the only thing stopping the educated rats from turning us all into mice.

I think I can disagree with you. It was a massive effort on the part of government to have our schools increase their attention on science right after the success of sputnik. A few years later, we were ahead of the russians in space. I can remember those days. It was a national embarrasment having the 'backward' Russians beat us in space. This is similar to what goes on with the economic front. This country was arguably on the verge of a revolution back in the depression days. Back in 1932 there were veterans marching on D.C. wanting a veterans bonus and federal troops were firing on them. Another national embarrasment. Then FDR gets voted in and comes up with some programs to keep people occupied, helped save the farms, put people to work with WPA etc. This gave people hope. I think we need government involvement and the free market. When either one becomes too strong, the other one steps in and equalizes things. This same thing is being played out right now with conservatives in the saddle , but it won't last.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If we had a government we could trust, the sky would be the limit for this nation. The problem is that we can't get a government we can trust, and that's because we are dealing with parrallel universes between the civilian world and the government world. The government world has been hostile to planet civilian world for decades. When ever we want to bridge the gap, we get pushed back into our place or world in which we are given to occupy. We should be providing the government a seat at our table, and not the opposite. The very fact that government exist is because we give it the power to exist. Now how that changed is flat outright amazing. The government got out of hand through the influx of lobbyist who bribed it to exploit we the people instead of it representing us against such exploitation. Then the government got caught up in this morphing into a so called protectionist of the so called weak, the so called poor, the weird, and the eternal whiners coupled with every group or individual having some sort of episode or quark in their life. Our government was expanded into areas it should have never went or until better checks and balances were placed upon it before ever going there. We have a federal government that had gotten way out of control, and especially when it started listening to everything it should have never involved itself in. Hopefully it will change, but we shall see.

Agents Provocateurs

Will you ever consider the idea that the government was infiltrated by a group that wanted to sabotage it by making it hostile to the majority? Their purpose was to trick us into voting ourselves into domination by selfish private powers.

 

[Unkotare]

If we had a government we could trust, the sky would be the limit for this nation. The problem is that we can't get a government we can trust, and that's because we are dealing with parrallel universes between the civilian world and the government world. The government world has been hostile to planet civilian world for decades. When ever we want to bridge the gap, we get pushed back into our place or world in which we are given to occupy. We should be providing the government a seat at our table, and not the opposite. The very fact that government exist is because we give it the power to exist. Now how that changed is flat outright amazing. The government got out of hand through the influx of lobbyist who bribed it to exploit we the people instead of it representing us against such exploitation. Then the government got caught up in this morphing into a so called protectionist of the so called weak, the so called poor, the weird, and the eternal whiners coupled with every group or individual having some sort of episode or quark in their life. Our government was expanded into areas it should have never went or until better checks and balances were placed upon it before ever going there. We have a federal government that had gotten way out of control, and especially when it started listening to everything it should have never involved itself in. Hopefully it will change, but we shall see.

Agents Provocateurs

Will you ever consider the idea that the government was infiltrated by a group that wanted to sabotage it by making it hostile to the majority? Their purpose was to trick us into voting ourselves into domination by selfish private powers.

Will you ever post conspiracy shit in the conspiracy forum where it belongs?