Rand Paul: "Obamacare is a job killing disaster."

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Democrats have a lot of nerve bitching about the minimum wage when the very law they championed obliterated workers hours which cut their pay by 25%

 

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"...what we “now know” is that American businesses have added more than 10 million jobs since Obamacare was enacted in “early 2010.”

So you believe that we can conclude that Obamacare was the only economic factor and assume we can attribute all jobs created and lost to that? Seriously? Government schools have failed you, badly. Very sad.

No Bubba, what we CAN conclude is despite right wing MYTHS, Obamacares HASN'T negatively affected US hiring, with 10,000,.000+ PRIVATE sector jobs created since it passed!

So anything that is good in the Obama term we can just assume was caused by him, but anything bad isn't his fault, it's W's. Got it.

Don't know how to critically think AND be honest huh? Weird the US should've boomed after 8 years of Dubya/GOP 'job creator' policies, now you KKlowns blame Obama cares though there have been over 11,000,000+ MORE private sector jobs than Dubya's 8 years? lol

Rightwingers/Republicans should be forgiven, for they know not what they do.

One, just one, of the ways rightwing/Republicans are able to dupe/propagandize their minions into believing their talking points, is to steeeretch, contort and twist the truth. The fact that we have rightwingers/Republicans insisting without a shred of evidence or facts -on this thread- that Obamacare is a job killer is a testament to the effective hard work that the rightwingers/Republicans put into the development of their propaganda, consider:

"The Congressional Budget Office, an analytical arm of Congress run by a former (Bill) Clinton staffer, said it cost about 2.5 million jobs with its implementation across the country." ~ Mitch McConnell

but

The Congressional Budget Office issued its official rebuttal Monday to the Republican talking point that Obamacare would cost 2.5 million American jobs.

In a new FAQ explainer of last week's budget report, CBO director Doug Elmendorf, answering if 2.5 million people will lose their jobs by 2024 because of the health care reform law, said: "No, we would not describe our estimates in that way." ~ Dylan Scott, Talking Points Memo

See what I'm sayin'?
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Actually a lot of those things are in the Constitution. The air force is part of what they meant by an army, you're playing a word game. Qualifications for judges is covered by advise and counsel of the Senate. Privacy is protected by the limits on Federal powers. Since liberals don't limit Federal powers, you think it's not covered by the Constitution.

However, overall again you show your complete inability to think in any logical way whatsoever. Listing things that are not in the Constitution does not mean that other things that aren't there are Constitutional. That is a non-sequitur.

So again, where are social security, medicare and welfare at the Federal level in the Constitution?

Word games from you. Shocking

Again, Congress. Remember that tax and spending authority? lol

Begging the question

"Supreme Court held the understanding of the General Welfare Clause contained in the Taxing and Spending Clause adheres to the construction given it by Associate Justice Joseph Story in his 1833 Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States.
Justice Story concluded that the General Welfare Clause is not a grant of general legislative power, but a qualification on the taxing power which includes within it a federal power to spend federal revenues on matters of general interest to the federal government. The Court described Justice Story's view as the "Hamiltonian position", as Alexander Hamilton had elaborated his view of the taxing and spending powers in his 1791 Report on Manufactures. Story, however, attributes the position's initial appearance to Thomas Jefferson, in his Opinion on the Bank of the United States"

You do realize obamacare would be ruled unconstitutional if it had not been ruled something that obama said it was not A TAX. Now don't know how the court will rule on the next case since gruber truthful statement. on how obamacare was passed.

Good you agree, it's constitutional. No need to worry about the future, seems conservatives have NEVER been on the correct side of history anyways!

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Two questions:

1) Where are those things in the Constitution?

2) What does the word "enumerated" mean?

1) Things That Are Not In the U.S. Constitution

The word "democracy"
Abortion
Capitalism

• The Air Force
• Congressional Districts
• The Electoral College
• Executive Order
• Executive Privilege
• Freedom of Expression
• (Absolute) Freedom of Speech and Press
• "From each according to his ability..."
• God
• Immigration
• Impeachment means removal from office
• Innocent until proven guilty
• It's a free country
• Judicial Review
• Jury of Peers
• "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"
• Marriage
• Martial Law
• No taxation without representation
• Number of Justices in the Supreme Court
• "Of the people, by the people, for the people"
• Paper Money
• Political Parties
• Primary Elections
• Qualifications for Judges
• The right to privacy
• The right to travel
• The right to vote
• The separation of church and state
• The Separation of Powers Clause
• Slavery
• "We hold these truths to be self-evident"

Things That Are Not In the U.S. Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net


2) Necessary and Proper Clause


The Powers of Congress.

Actually a lot of those things are in the Constitution. The air force is part of what they meant by an army, you're playing a word game. Qualifications for judges is covered by advise and counsel of the Senate. Privacy is protected by the limits on Federal powers. Since liberals don't limit Federal powers, you think it's not covered by the Constitution.

However, overall again you show your complete inability to think in any logical way whatsoever. Listing things that are not in the Constitution does not mean that other things that aren't there are Constitutional. That is a non-sequitur.

So again, where are social security, medicare and welfare at the Federal level in the Constitution?

Word games from you. Shocking

Again, Congress. Remember that tax and spending authority? lol

Begging the question

"Supreme Court held the understanding of the General Welfare Clause contained in the Taxing and Spending Clause adheres to the construction given it by Associate Justice Joseph Story in his 1833 Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States.
Justice Story concluded that the General Welfare Clause is not a grant of general legislative power, but a qualification on the taxing power which includes within it a federal power to spend federal revenues on matters of general interest to the federal government. The Court described Justice Story's view as the "Hamiltonian position", as Alexander Hamilton had elaborated his view of the taxing and spending powers in his 1791 Report on Manufactures. Story, however, attributes the position's initial appearance to Thomas Jefferson, in his Opinion on the Bank of the United States"

That says government can tax, it doesn't say they can spend it on whatever they want to spend it on.