Ralph Nader slams Elon Musk as 'welfare king' for using taxpayers' money to launch Tesla"

[pyetro]

Consumer advocate Ralph Nader just roasted Elon Musk on Twitter, calling him a "welfare king" for apparently using government funds to get Tesla off the ground. Nader has always been an outspoken critic of corporate welfare and he's not holding back in his latest attack on the right wing nut. Musk has defended the subsidies, saying they were necessary to promote the electric car industry, but Nader isn't buying it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You wouldn't have your ev car if not for musk
Now musk is evil

 

[pyetro]

You wouldn't have your ev car if not for musk
Now musk is evil

Therefore, I wouldn't have my EV car had it not been for big government/corporate welfare and corporate leeches.

 

[johngaltshrugged]

Not a fan of using our money for private enterprise subsidies at all but at least Musk produced an actual product with the money he got.

How much of Barry's stimulus money went to green energy boondoggles that promptly went belly up?

Anybody else remember Solyndra? It wasn't alone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/specialreports/solyndra-scandal/

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Therefore, I wouldn't have my EV car had it not been for big government/corporate welfare and corporate leeches.

Nope if not for musk you would not have one

 

[Zincwarrior]

Consumer advocate Ralph Nader just roasted Elon Musk on Twitter, calling him a "welfare king" for apparently using government funds to get Tesla off the ground. Nader has always been an outspoken critic of corporate welfare and he's not holding back in his latest attack on the right wing nut. Musk has defended the subsidies, saying they were necessary to promote the electric car industry, but Nader isn't buying it.

He is accurate.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Not a fan of using our money for private enterprise subsidies at all but at least Musk produced an actual product with the money he got.

How much of Barry's stimulus money went to green energy boondoggles that promptly went belly up?

Anybody else remember Solyndra? It wasn't alone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/specialreports/solyndra-scandal/

You are correct
How much did we lose with Obama's hand out?

 

[pyetro]

Not a fan of using our money for private enterprise subsidies at all but at least Musk produced an actual product with the money he got.

How much of Barry's stimulus money went to green energy boondoggles that promptly went belly up?

Anybody else remember Solyndra? It wasn't alone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/specialreports/solyndra-scandal/

"not a fan of using our money for private enterprise, but I'm a fan of using our money for private enterprise!"
Great consistency there, Einstein.

 

[DudleySmith]

Nader is right. Tesla is just a another giant corporate welfare scam. They will never get the electrical grid large enoigh to handle the demand, and costs are going to skyrocket due to hyper-inflated bidding wars and artificial demand. Still smaller than the trillions in Wall Street bailouts that keep right wing propaganda media well funded, though. The economy is already showing signs of tanking and recession looming up. Hopefully manufacturers running out from under Red China's threats will take up the slack, but then the massive criminal illegal immigration Democrats are promoting with see to it most Americans see zero benefits and a bankrupt safety net.

 

[pyetro]

You are correct
How much did we lose with Obama's hand out?

you said nothing about Musk. Dodger.

 

[BackAgain]

Ralph Nader is still talking shit?

 

[Hossfly]

Consumer advocate Ralph Nader just roasted Elon Musk on Twitter, calling him a "welfare king" for apparently using government funds to get Tesla off the ground. Nader has always been an outspoken critic of corporate welfare and he's not holding back in his latest attack on the right wing nut. Musk has defended the subsidies, saying they were necessary to promote the electric car industry, but Nader isn't buying it.

Screw Ralph Nader. What has he ever done for the people?

As for Elon Musk:

 

[bigrebnc1775]

you said nothing about Musk. Dodger.

Because Musk produced something with the money. What did Obama's handout produce? Nothing but the tax payer paying corporations for failing

 

[Synthaholic]

Not a fan of using our money for private enterprise subsidies at all but at least Musk produced an actual product with the money he got.

How much of Barry's stimulus money went to green energy boondoggles that promptly went belly up?

Anybody else remember Solyndra? It wasn't alone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/specialreports/solyndra-scandal/

Another ignorant dumbass who has no idea what he's talking about, but is happy to cite the "Liberal Media" when it's convenient for him. When it's not, it's "Fake News".

 

[Synthaholic]

He is accurate.

Musk answered him, claimed it was all his money, and then in the same tweet says that the government gave him a loan.

 

[JGalt]

Consumer advocate Ralph Nader just roasted Elon Musk on Twitter, calling him a "welfare king" for apparently using government funds to get Tesla off the ground. Nader has always been an outspoken critic of corporate welfare and he's not holding back in his latest attack on the right wing nut. Musk has defended the subsidies, saying they were necessary to promote the electric car industry, but Nader isn't buying it.

According to this article, Musk has received $4.9 billion in government assistance over a period of two decades (20 years.)

Elon Musk is speaking out against government subsidies. Here's a list of the billions of dollars his businesses have received.

Now let's just look at one of his companies, Tesla: In 2022, Tesla employed 127,855 people. A worker at Tesla makes between $17.35 to $36.46 an hour, or an average of $24.37 per hour. Not counting holidays, if a Tesla worker works 40 hours per week and 52 weeks per year, the average Tesla worker makes $50,689 per year. For a workforce of 127,855 Tesla employees, that's a total payroll of $6,480,918,808 per year.

If each of those Tesla employees paid a 30% tax rate, that would amount to $1,944,275,642 in tax revenue Tesla alone has generated for the state and federal governments. That doesn't include the tax revenue his other companies generate for the state and federal governments: SpaceX, SolarCity, Paypal, Twitter, etc.

So what's the fucking problem here?

 

[Synthaholic]

You are correct
How much did we lose with Obama's hand out?

Nothing. Local businesses got a ton of work because of the Green Stimulus. Because that was a condition. Buy a heat pump water heater? You'll get a huge rebate, but it has to be professionally installed. That's business for the local plumbers. Getting solar panels? Huge rebate. But it has to be installed by professionals and you have to hire an electrician. That's business for local electrical companies.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Tesla: government subsidies for every car and fake anti carbon credits.

Bore: government contracts.

SpaceX: government contracts.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

How many people are employed by Musk? How much in taxes do they pay?

 

[Synthaholic]

Screw Ralph Nader. What has he ever done for the people?

He allowed Bush to become POTUS instead of Gore. So he did absolutely nothing for the people. In 2000.

If you're ignorant about his career in the 1960s and all the lives he saved, that makes sense because you're a Republican.